Quote# 134056

That's what I thought. A lazy person who is brainwashed by textbooks and false teachers. That is why I didn't click on your links. I have done tonnes of research and know that there is NO curvature on the Earth (except through fish-eye lenses). You can see the Flat Earth from high altitudes, and distancewith the "supposed" curvature rate prove that there is NO curvature.
Cowards argue but never do the research, and Trolls just deny the truth. You are either one or the other.?

Mark Mywords, Youtube 8 Comments [11/11/2017 8:23:13 AM]
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Quote# 134034

We want to live, hospitals want the opposite. Once you land there it may be hard to get out. Most of us don't realize this because we haven't been in this situation, but the nurses and doctors will slowly poison you, drag you and even make you immobile. And for the most part they do this unconsciously, but that's how the system was created and it's there to slowly kill you. That's why you get hospitalized.

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Let's start with depression. After a while of dealing with it you don't want to live anymore. So you try to commit suicide, but it doesn't work out. Somebody finds you and reports you to the authorities. And what they do is make it worse because with this medication they torture you and you will end up committing suicide anyways because it will make the symptoms way worse because all it is, is malnourishment. That's what psychology is about.

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And we all know the things about how bad hospital food is. That reveals everything about the true purpose of hospitals. It should all be organic, pastured, raw, forget it. Another thing is AIDS. You take medication and after a decade approximately you die. Literally all symptoms of AIDS are effects of medication, not side effects because they either purposefully create it to kill you
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Then there is coma's if you had a seizure, for example, they will bring you to the death trap and pump you full of drugs and because of that you won't be able to wake up. There are so many people in coma's that shouldn't even be there, especially if they got the right food which should be raw animal fat, but no, they will get "high-sugar meals" (if you can even call them "meals"). What about heart attacks? Same thing, you will lay there in the bed for a week and they will give you plant-based low-fat high-Sugar meals, which caused you to be there in the first place.

The last thing I want to talk about is anorexia or general emaciation. They will give you only enough so you can lay there in the bed and malnourish yourself even more. Around 600 calories. And then they very very slowly increase it, but it's high-sugar, low-fat and low-proteine anyways.

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That way it would take many months to recover and a lot of people can't do it because they are already too malnourished. So they will die in the process and that's how the system wants it. They should be getting raw whole foods and not pasteurized and man-made liquids in plastic bags. They can't digest them if they can't create their own enzymes.

And they should eat as much as they want, the so-called calory should never be limited, but they are because of the supposed re-feeding syndrome. Bullshit. They starve you even more after starvation and that's their excuse (completely man-made).

Anorexia is caused by starvation and brainwashing also quite a lot of times, but the starvation is what gets them to the point of even considering it. And we are all living in mass starvation, even though nobody would like to believe it. Just look at what we eat. Raw meat is the essential key which would help all of these people because it's a raw building food, but it's not even allowed in hospitals.

sv3rige, Youtube 10 Comments [11/10/2017 11:47:45 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 134054

Absolutely amazing that all your responses attacking flat earth are the exact same issues the bible has with a globe earth... Not quite sure if you have ever read the bible, but it clearly states flat earth, motionless, seems pretty clear to me God is telling us the world is flat. But you choose to follow the serpent. Good old NASA... Must make you a proud fake Christian. Take pride bud.... The good news is you have clearly accepted the mark... Guess that thought never crossed your mind, huh??? More bible study for you ?? Good luck false prophet.?



Maximus Prime, Youtube 11 Comments [11/11/2017 12:59:36 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 134037

Scripture isn't anti science. It apposes pseudo science rooted in paganism and lies.

Papa Flerf Bo / Mast Papa Flerf Bo / Mast, Twitter 11 Comments [11/10/2017 2:07:03 PM]
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Quote# 134045

These peeps need a refund on their "sex change." They both still look like guys lol. This is very sad. But the world cant see the works of God's enemy when they're right in front of their faces.

They actually believe this is real and people need sex changes to live successfully. They dont see that this is all mental illness and confusion and these people need help to get free of it and to be whole in their birth gender identity. Very sad indeed. But when people live in the dark they're apt to stumble into a wall lol. All we can do is pray and proclaim freedom to these folk.

David Gunn, Facebook 11 Comments [11/10/2017 5:06:16 PM]
Fundie Index: 5
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134039

If the earth was a globe then the Bible would be a lie, that's why they strive to hard to convince us other wise, they just don't have to common sense to tell a convincing lie?

Kenneth Goforth, Youtube 14 Comments [11/10/2017 2:07:15 PM]
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Quote# 134053

(Authors note; This is a comment of an argument I had with this fundie. My full name is mentioned in the comment, but I filled it in with "---")

It is Flat Earth Trolls like "-------------" and "BEPA" and all his/her other aliases that prove that the conspiracy to destroy the spread of the Flat Earth...both Biblically and Scientifically true.

Stop listening to false teachers claiming that the "debunked" the Flat Earth. They are either unlearned in the subject, or outright false teachers, knowing that what they teach is wrong. Please stop thanking such teachers, as Joel Richardson, they keep you in error. You may as well believe in Evolution if you believe in the Ball. They come from the same source.?

Mark Mywords, Youtube 10 Comments [11/11/2017 12:59:15 AM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 105087

It was Joe’s first date with Mary. He asked her what she wanted in life and she replied, “I want to establish my career. That’s the most important thing to me right now.” Undeterred that she had no need for a man in her life, Joe entertained her with enough funny stories and cocky statements that she soon allowed him to lightly pet her forearm.

At the end of the date, he locked arms with her on the walk to the subway station, when two Middle Eastern men on scooter patrol accosted them and said they were forbidden to touch. “This is Sharia zone,” they said in heavily accented English, in front of a Halal butcher shop. Joe and Mary felt bad that they offended the two men, because they were trained in school to respect all religions but that of their ancestors. One of the first things they learned was that their white skin gave them extra privilege in life which must be consciously restrained at all times. Even if they happened to disagree with the two men, they could not verbally object because of anti-hate laws that would put them in jail for religious discrimination. They unlocked arms and maintained a distance of three feet from each other.

Unfortunately for Joe, Mary did not want to go out with him again, but seven years later he did receive a message from her on Facebook saying hello. She became vice president of a company, but could not find a man equal to her station since women now made 25% more than men on average. Joe had long left the country and moved to Thailand, where he married a young Thai girl and had three children. He had no plans on returning to his country, America.

If cultural collapse occurs in the way I will now describe, the above scenario will be the rule within a few decades. The Western world is being colonized in reverse, not by weapons or hard power, but through a combination of progressivism and low reproductive rates. These two factors will lead to a complete cultural collapse of many Western nations within the next 200 years. This theory will show the most likely mechanism that it will proceed in America, Canada, UK, Scandinavia, and Western Europe.

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The Cultural Collapse Progression

1. Removal of religious narrative from people’s lives, replaced by a treadmill of scientific and technological “progress.”

2. Elimination of traditional sex roles through feminism, gender equality, political correctness, cultural Marxism, and socialism.

3. Delay or abstainment of family formation by women to pursue careerist lifestyles while men wait in confused limbo.

4. Decreasing birth rate among native population.

5. Government enactment of open immigration policies to prevent economic collapse.

6. Immigrant refusal to fully acclimate, forcing host culture to adopt external rituals and beliefs while being out-reproduced.

7. Natives becoming marginalized in their own country.

1. Removal of religious narrative

Religion has been a powerful restraint for millennia in preventing humans from pursuing their base desires and narcissistic tendencies so that they satisfy a god. Family formation is the central unit of most religions, possibly because children increase membership at zero marginal cost to the church (i.e. they don’t need to be recruited).

Religion may promote scientific ignorance, but it facilitates reproduction by giving people a narrative that places family near the center of their existence.[1] [2] [3] After the Enlightenment, the rapid advance of science and its logical but nihilistic explanations into the universe have removed the religious narrative and replaced it with an empty narrative of scientific progress, knowledge, and technology, which act as a restraint and hindrance to family formation, allowing people to pursue individual goals of wealth accumulation or hedonistic pleasure seeking.[4] As of now, there has not been a single non-religious population that has been able to reproduce above the death rate.[5]

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2. Elimination of traditional sex roles

Once religion no longer plays a role in people’s lives, the stage is set to fracture male-female bonding. It is collectively attacked by several ideologies stemming from the beliefs of Cultural Marxist theory, which serve to accomplish one common end: destruction of the family unit so that citizens are dependent on the state. They achieve this goal through the marginalization of men and their role in society under the banner of “equality.”[6] With feminism pushed to the forefront of this umbrella movement, the drive for equality ends up being a power grab by women.[7] This attack is performed on a range of fronts:

medicating boys from a young age with ADHD drugs to eradicate displays of masculinity[8]
shaming of men for having direct sexual interest in attractive and fertile women
criminalization of normal male behavior by redefining some instances of consensual sex as rape[9]
imprisonment of unemployed fathers for non-payment of child support, rendering them destitute and unable to be a part of their children’s lives[10]
taxation of men at higher rates for redistribution to women[11] [12]
promotion of single mother and homosexual lifestyles over that of the nuclear family[13] [14]

The end result is that men, confused about their identify and averse to state punishment from sexual harassment, “date rape,” and divorce proceedings, make a rational decision to wait on the sidelines.[15] Women, still not happy with the increased power given to them, continue their assault on men by instructing them to “man up” into what has become an unfair deal—marriage. The elevation of women above men is allowed by corporations, which adopt “girl power” marketing to expand their consumer base and increase profits.[16] [17] Governments also allow it because it increases their tax revenue. Because there is money to be made with women working and becoming consumers, there is no effort by the elite to halt this development.
3. Women begin to place career above family

At the same time men are emasculated as mere “sperm donors,” women are encouraged to adopt the career goals, mannerisms, and competitive lifestyles of men, inevitably causing them to delay marriage, often into an age where they can no longer find suitable husbands who have more resources than themselves. [18] [19] [20] [21] The average woman will find it exceedingly difficult to balance career and family, and since she has no concern of getting “fired” from her family, who she may see as a hindrance to her career goals, she will devote an increasing proportion of time into her job.

Female income, in aggregate, will soon match or exceed that of men.[22] [23] [24] A key reason that women historically got married was to be economically provided for, but this reason will no longer persist and women will feel less pressure or motivation to marry. The burgeoning spinster population will simply be a money-making opportunity for corporations to market to an increasing population of lonely women. Cat and small dog sales will rise.

Women succumb to their primal sexual and materialistic urges to live the “Sex and the City” lifestyle full of fine dining, casual sex, technological bliss, and general gluttony without learning traditional household skills or feminine qualities that would make them attractive wives.[25] [26] Men adapt to careerist women in a rational way by doing the following:

to sate their natural sexual desires, men allow their income to lower since economic stability no longer provides a draw to women in their prime[27]
they mimic “alpha male” social behavior to get laid with women who, without having an urgent need for a man’s monetary resources to survive, can choose men based on confidence, aesthetics, and general entertainment value[28]
they withdraw into a world of video games and the internet, satisfying their own base desires for play and simulated hunting[29] [30]

Careerist women who decide to marry will do so in a hurried rush around 30 because they fear growing old alone, but since they are well past their fertility peak[31], they may find it difficult to reproduce. In the event of successful reproduction at such a later age, fewer children can be born before biological infertility, limiting family size compared to the historical past.

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Cultural decline begins in earnest when the natives feel shame or guilt for who they are, their history, their way of life, and where their ancestors came from. They will let immigrant groups criticize their customs without protest, or they simply embrace immigrant customs instead with religious conversion and interethnic marriages. Nationalistic pride will be condemned as a “far-right” phenomenon and popular nationalistic politicians will be compared to Hitler. Natives learn the art of self-censorship, limiting the range of their speech and expressions, and soon only the elderly can speak the truths of the cultural decline while a younger multiculturalist within earshot attributes such frankness to senility or racist nostalgia.

With the already entrenched environment of political correctness (see stage 2), the local culture becomes a sort of “world” culture that can be declared tolerant and progressive as long as there is a lack of criticism against immigrants, multiculturalism, and their combined influence. All cultural identity will eventually be lost, and to be “American” or “British,” for example, will no longer have modern meaning from a sociological perspective. Native traditions will be eradicated and a cultural mixing will take place where citizens from one world nation will be nearly identical in behavior, thought, and consumer tastes to citizens of another. Once a collapse occurs, it cannot be reversed. The nation’s cultural heritage will be forever lost.

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How To Stop Cultural Collapse

Maintaining native birth rates while preventing the elite from allowing immigrant labor is the most effective means at preventing cultural collapse. Since multiculturalism is an experiment with no proven efficacy, a culture can only be maintained by a relatively homogenous group who identify with each other. When that homogeneity breaks down and one citizen looks to the next and does not see a person with the same values as himself, the culture falls in dis-repair as native citizens begin to lose a shared means of communication and identity. Once the percentage of the immigrant population crosses a certain threshold (perhaps 15%), the decline will pick up in pace and cultural breakdown will be readily apparent to all observers.

Current policies to solve low birth rates through immigration is a short-term fix with dire long-term consequences. In effect, it’s a Trojan-horse prescription of irreversible cultural destruction. A state must prevent itself from entering the position where mass immigration is considered a solution by blocking progressive ideologies from taking hold. One way this can be done is through the promotion of a state-sponsored religion which encourages the nuclear family instead of single motherhood and homosexuality. However, introducing religion as a mainstay of citizen life in the post-enlightenment era may be impossible.

We must consider that the scientific era is an evolutionary maladaptive feature of humanity that natural selection will accordingly punish (i.e. those who are anti-religious and pro-science will simply breed less). It must also be considered that with religion in permanent decline, cultural collapse may be a certainty that eventually occurs in all developed nations. Religion, it may turn out, was evolutionary beneficial to the human race.

Another possible solution is to foster a patriarchal society where men serve as strong providers. If you encourage the development of successful men who possess indispensable skills and therefore resources that are lacked by females, there will be women below their station who want to marry and procreate with them, but if strong women are produced instead, marriage and procreation is unlikely to take place at levels above the death rate.

A gap between the sexes should always exist in the favor of men if procreation is to occur at high rates, or else you’ll have something similar to the situation in America where urban professional women cannot find “good men” to begin a family with (i.e., men who are significantly more financially successful than them). They instead remain single and barren, only used occasionally by cads for exciting casual sex.

Roosh Valizadeh, Return of Kings 41 Comments [12/5/2014 6:33:22 AM]
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Quote# 125108

Whitney Cummings once said, "Porn isn't bad. Men watching porn is like women watching The Food Network: we're both watching things we're never going to freaking do." Feminists led the efforts to ban child pornography in the late 1970s, and will continue trying to demonize men for indulging their curiosity in, or getting aroused by, "deviant" forms of sexuality, and for exploiting women, even as women (especially feminist women, who often are excited by rape fantasies — not that there's anything wrong with that) indulge in their own violent, sadomasochistic pornography by reading Fifty Shades of Grey. It's hypocritical and a double standard.

Feminists have even gotten porn involving 17-year-old girls declared "child pornography," despite the fact that these girls would, until very recently, have been considered nubile (i.e. of marriageable age), rather than children. It is just another way of shaming men for having normal sexual desires. Young women are at the peak of their fertile years, so it is natural for men to want to have sex with them, and understandable that some men would resort to pornography as a more easily obtainable substitute.

In a way, it shouldn't be all that surprising that some men want to have sex even with girls who haven't reached puberty. There are, after all, men who will have sex with women (e.g. the wife they've been married to for 30 years) who are so old as to be infertile, so why wouldn't there be men who would have sex with girls who are too young to be fertile? It's been theorized that sex serves a number of purposes besides reproduction (for example, giving couples another reason to stay together to raise their children). It doesn't seem all that farfetched that, in the race among men to be the first to get the youngest and freshest girls as they come on the market, some men would end up going so far as to go for prepubescent girls, erring on the side of too young rather than too old.

There's also Rule 34, "If it exists, there's porn of it"; for whatever reason, the human mind seems to have a limitless ability to fetishize anything. "Normal" people download videos of bukkake and Roman showers, yet somehow child porn is deviant? These distinctions are political, not scientific. As Darian Meacham's Medicine and Society, New Perspectives in Continental Philosophy notes, "Immediately after the APA board's decision to delete homosexuality from their manual, Irving Bieber publicly asked Spitzer whether he would consider deleting other sexual deviations from DSM, too. Spitzer answered: 'I haven't given much thought to [these problems] and perhaps that is because the voyeurs and the fetishists have not yet organized themselves and forced us to do that'."

It also shouldn't be too surprising that some men are attracted to young boys. According to the Super Gay Uncles Theory, one reason for homosexuality's existence might be so that there are extra men around to provide nurturance to children in their extended families. Wouldn't pedophilic desires for boys tend to create an incentive to provide even more nurturance, as a form of child grooming (which some pederasts have likened to heterosexual dating, in which the wealthier older man pays for the dates)? This is the basic thrust of the classic essay, The Descent of Chester.

Nathan Larson, Nathan Larson for delegate 7 Comments [3/4/2017 11:09:59 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Hu's On First

Quote# 134060

Really, really makes me want to destroy muzslime wherever the vile ugly creatures are. Muzslime have no right to live among civilized humans and the should NEVER be allowed to own animals. Muzslime ALL muzslime are the SCUM of the whole earth.

Don Spilman, Bare Naked Islam 2 Comments [11/11/2017 8:26:17 AM]
Fundie Index: 6
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134006

Franny [Pope Francis] is, at best, a fascist..... more communist... he is, in"modern times" the most phony catholic to usurp the papacy......... proof of the corruption that is the so-called "catholic"(universal) so-called "church"

[later, in a comment]
Fascism, socialism,"progressives", marxism, communism, even nazis..... all seek the same goal.... they just differ on how to achieve it.....

Never submit... to evil, Y! answers 7 Comments [11/10/2017 11:02:21 AM]
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Quote# 134017

Forgive me Jesus Freaks. I am The Holy Lance. I Hold the fate of the world in my hands. Nobody has to like it. Heaven is what I bring to this world. Everyone is getting Everlasting Life & Whatever Luxury there is, its going to be for everyone. No more slavery. I bring the end of days. No more counting off days you are getting your divinity back.

QuasiLuminous, Youtube 4 Comments [11/10/2017 11:03:09 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134020

Rebuttal to Joel Richardson on Flat Earth

Greetings in the NAME OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. I have recently watched your videos and heard your comments as well as Dr. Heiser on the topic of Flat Earth and is it’s the Biblical view, on what is now becoming a main stream topic in both the Christian and secular world. Before I begin I would like to think both of you for your work it has been most helpful. However I would exhort you to pay very close attention to what I have been impressed to write to you both. I take issue with you on the following statements you have made in regard to the Bible GODS WORD.

1) You Sir stated in your 1st video that the THE BIBLE DID NOT TEACH A FLAT EARHT, WHICH I TELL IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE. A FLAT EARTH VIEW WAS THE View AT THAT TIME OF EVERY CULTURE. Dr. Heiser in a video state if you were to take the BIBLE literally that it did in fact state a Flat Earth as well as on your show episode 74. You Also rebuked all Christians and demanded them to repent for trusting in GOD and HIS WORD. I would have expected more from you sir and would exhort both of you to seriously pray and study the issue with an open mind and reexamine all that you have been taught. It is you sir who said you must take the full council scripture and the full council of scripture holds to the doctrine of flat earth as is the popular term.

2) Both you and Dr. Heiser stated that this Flat Earth is by those who would believe GODS WORD AND TAKE IT AS GOD HAD HIS PROPHETS Write it. That we who believe are conspiracy theorist and should not be taken seriously.

A) Allow me to inform you that most people do not challenge what they are taught but believe blindly accepting what they are taught to be true by people claiming to be experts in their field of study and many have been deceived about a great many things even in the Church. This is historical fact. Would you not agree?
B) In order for a lie to be considered truth and flourish you need only a few conditions blind faith, lack of knowledge in the area one is to be deceived in, and one of fair speech to color a lie with a little truth to paint a believable allusion. Would you not agree?

3) Both you and Dr. Heiser have been so bold to state even to the point of a rebuke to GOD AND HIS HOLY PROPHETS THAT GOD COULD NOT INPART THE TRUTH OF THE WORLDS TRUE SHAPE THAT OF A SPHERE OR A PLANE. AND THAT THE PROPHETS WROTE DOWN THEIR OWN WORLD VIEW AND NOT WHAT GOD TOLD THEM TO WRITE DOWN. THESE PROPHETS SUCH AS ISAIAH WHOM GOD GAVE THE PROPHESY OF KING CYRUS 156- 256 YEARS BEFORE GOD USED HIM TO CONQUER BABYLON ALLOW THE JEWS TO REBUILD THE TEMPLE.

ISAIAH 45:1) Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;

Truly are we to believe that GOD can speak things to his prophets not yet seen but he GOD CAN NOT BE TRUTHFUL TO HIS PROPHETS ABOUT THE TRUE FORM OF THE WORLD WE LIVE IN THAT HE CREATED!

Now let use touch on a few scriptures that cannot be argued with in relation to the full council of scripture that upholds the EARTH AS A PLANE. That you and Dr. Heiser conveniently fail to mention due to the fact that it does not support your man-made world view as both of you are greatly deceived because you have not really questioned and searched the mater out.

GEN1.16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
GEN1.17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, GEN1.18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
GEN1.19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Are so called science tell us that the sun was first.

GOD TELLS US THAT HE CREATED THE SUN AND MOON ON THE FORTH DAY AND THAT SEAS AND THE DRY LAND WERE CREATED ON THE THIRD DAY. I ASK YOU IS GOD A LIER AND IS MAN SPEAKING TRUTH. I KNOW GOD IS TRUTH AND HIS WORD IS TRUTH AND LET MAN BE A LIER.

NEXT LET US GO TO JOSHUA 10: 12-14)

JOS10.12 Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon.
JOS10.13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
JOS10.14 And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the LORD hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the LORD fought for Israel.

THE WORD OF GOD STATES UNAPOLOGETICALLY THAT THE SUN AND THE MOON STOOD STILL, NOT THAT GOD TOLD THE EARTH TO STAND STILL. YOU CAN NOT INTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES ANY OTHER WAY UNLESS YOU ARE WILLING TO LIE!

The science of man tells us that the earth spins at 1000 mph and That we orbit the sun on and axis. Is mans so-called science true and GOD A LIER?

Answer me this when you fly on a plane going say 500 mph hour and the earth Is spinning 1000 mph how do you get to your destination and how do you land on a moving runway? You can’t fly faster in passenger jets than the earth spins!

If the earth is a globe can you walk on walls and ceilings as flies do. Do the laws of physics apply where you live only?

Let us look at the book of ISAIAH 38:7-8)

ISA38.7 And this shall be a sign unto thee from the LORD, that the LORD will do this thing that he hath spoken;
ISA38.8 Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.
HOW WILL YOU EXPLAIN THIS PORTION OF GODS WORD AWAY, YOU CAN NOT. IT STATES WHAT GOD DID HE MOVED THE SUN BACK 10 DEGREES. DO YOU BELIEVE GOD IS LIER AND THAT THIS IS AN AMBIGUOUS STATEMENT OR HYPERBOLE? I THINK NOT GODS WORD IS TRUTH.

MR. RICHARDSON, I HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF RESPECT FOR YOU AND I PRAY THAT YOU WILL LOOK AT THIS MATTER IN PRAYER AND SUPPLICATION BEFORE GOD AND DO YOU OWN RESEARCH AS GOD LEADS. I WROTE WHAT I FELT GOD LAY ON MY HEART TO SAY TO YOU THOUGH MY SPEECH WAS HARD. AND I TELL YOU THAT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER FOR YOU NOT TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE IN THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU DID THAN TO MAKE ACCUSATIONS AGAINST GOD AND HIS PROPHETS AND TO PUBLICLY REBUKE THOSE WHO HAVE RIGHTLY BELIEVED AND PROVEN THE WORD OF GOD TO BE TRUE AND THE WORLD HE CREATED TO BE AS IT IS WRITEN IN HIS HOLY WORD TO BE A PLANE AND NOT A GLOBE.
I GIVE YOU THE FOLLOWING REFERENCES TO GET STATED WITH AND FOR THOSE WHO ALSO DON’T BELIEVE.

1) TERRA FIRMA: THE EARTH NOT A PLANET; PROVED FROM SCRIPTURE, REASON AND FACT BY DAVID WARDLAW SCOTT
2) ZETETIC ASTRONOMY: EARTH NOT A GLOBE BY SAMUEL BIRLEY ROWBOTHAM
3) ZETETIC COSMOGONY

I WILL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU IF YOU LIKE ALL YOU NEED DO IS EMAIL ME I HAVE PURCHASED MANY BOOKS FROM YOU.

AND TO ALL THOSE WHO HAVE CURSED YOU AND THREATEN YOU THEY SHOULD SEEK GOD FOR FORGIVENESS, FOR WE HAVE ALL BELIEVED THING THAT WERE NOT TRUE AND ACCORDING TO GODS WORD AND WE ALL HAVE MUCH TO LEARN IF WE WILL ONLY LISTEN TO GOD.

Sincerely in CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR,

S. K. GRAY?


Steven Gray, Youtube 3 Comments [11/10/2017 11:12:41 AM]
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Quote# 134024

Whenever I have visited my parents, who live in a village, I have heard many wonderful stories about Falun Dafa practitioners, which took place after the practice spread through the village in 1998. At that time, a woman in a neighboring village learned Falun Dafa from her sister and taught it in the village after returning home. Many people became healthier and stronger through practicing Falun Dafa, and some people were forever cured of chronic diseases.

These miraculous events caused a sensation in the small village, and more villagers came to learn Falun Dafa. They later set up a Fa study group to study the main teachings of Falun Dafa, in the book Zhuan Falun. The first miracle happened when a young woman suddenly began floating about two feet above the ground during the Fa-study session. She then continued to float in a circle around the courtyard.

Another amazing occurrence happened to a 70-year-old woman who had a bad temper and used to curse at others over trivial matters. Everyone was afraid of offending her. She always had difficulty breathing, her legs hurt, and she rarely worked in the fields. After practicing Falun Dafa, she turned into a different person. She treated people nicely and gave others a hand when needed. Her body became stronger and stronger. At age 80, today she can walk swiftly like a young woman, and sometimes she is found working in the fields. The villagers know that Falun Dafa gave her a new life.

Another woman, age 50, who never went to school, was very anxious because others were able to read Falun Dafa books and she couldn't. She asked her grandchildren to teach her how to read and gradually learned to read Zhuan Falun fluently. After witnessing such a great change, her husband took the initiative to shoulder more housework to give her more time to study the Fa. Her husband also benefited a lot from Falun Dafa. After the persecution began in 1999, her husband often rode a bicycle to transport her around to clarify the facts about Falun Dafa to the other villagers who had been harmed by the Chinese government’s lies about the practice.

Another villager, who was suffering from severe hepatitis, had not improved even a little after spending a lot of money on medical care at a hospital. His wife encouraged him to give Falun Dafa a try because she knew that many villagers had their diseases cured through practicing Dafa. Within two days, his skin became golden, looking very scary. At first he was nervous, but he soon calmed down after a local coordinator explained to him that his body was being cleansed. He insisted on doing the exercises and studying the Fa. As expected, his skin soon became normal and rosy.

Many people in the village rushed to tell others how they had benefited from Falun Dafa. The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) launched its persecution against Falun Dafa in 1999. Some villagers went out to tell people the facts about Dafa, and some did not. The practitioners who were steadier in their faith went out to clarify the facts about Falun Dafa to the rest of the villagers. They encouraged others to remember, “Falun Dafa is good,” and “Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.”

One practitioner learned that her neighbor was suffering from water in the lungs. The man was lying in bed unable to sleep at night and was seeking medical help. The practitioner clarified the facts to him, encouraged him to withdraw from the CCP and its affiliated organizations, and advised him to recite, “Falun Dafa is good,” and “Truthfulness-Compassion-Forbearance is good.” Amazingly, the man could then sleep at night. His disease disappeared completely, and he could work normally like before. He now tells others that Falun Dafa and Master Li gave him a second life.

There was another villager who was suffering from liver cancer. His doctor suggested that he have surgery as soon as possible. But his family was very poor and unable to afford the operation. A Dafa practitioner visited his family and encouraged him and his wife to withdraw from the CCP and its affiliated organizations. He advised them to sincerely recite, “Falun Dafa is good.” This couple later started to study the Fa teachings together. After a period of time, the man no longer felt any pain in his liver. He then went to the hospital for another X-ray. His doctor was surprised, and said, “Something must be wrong with images taken last time. Why can’t I find any cancer spots on these films? You are alright, and you can go home now.”

Falun Dafa is a Buddha School cultivation practice, and in a short time has spread to more than 100 countries and regions, attracting all ethnic groups and all kinds of people around the globe. It's time for the persecution to end, and for Falun Dafa to again be freely practiced in China!

Unknown author, Minghui 5 Comments [11/10/2017 11:23:12 AM]
Fundie Index: 3
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134021

Freeman: Joel is right, the earth is not flat. For the flat earthers out there, why can polaris only be seen from the northern hemisphere? The southern hemisphere will never see polaris. This proves the earth is round.?

Mark Mywords: I don't Freeman, why can I see cities that are over the curve of the earth, when, based on distance and Earth's curvature, it should be impossible? Joel is a false teacher. Proof is in how he mis-uses the Bible to make it say whatever he wants it to.?


Freeman: Answer my question, then I will answer yours. Its simple fact that the north star cannot be seen from the southern hemisphere, but everyone when in the northern hemisphere can see it. When at the equator it will only be on your horizon, while at the north pole it will be at your zenith. How do you explain this??

Mark Mywords: I don't have an answer to your question, I haven't gotten that far (that's my answer). Instead I can do "real" science (observable and repeatable). Know the distance between two points, knowing the earth's curvature and using my telescope, I can see cities are impossible to see on "your" ball earth. Proving that the Earth is NOT a ball. And the Bible does NOT support a Heliocentric universe (unless you misuse the Bible the way Richarson and Heiser do).?

Mark Mywords: Once we know the Earth is flat (and it is) we don't have to keep proving it over and over. We progress to the question "why?". Why are people lying about the shape of the Earth? Why do christians believe these lies? And the answers take us to the source and understanding of it all: There are a religious group of people who are dedicated to making their religion both "the" religion and "the" government of the who world. They accomplish this by deceiving all people, from childhood (schools) to adulthood. Anyone who discovers the truth is called a "Conspiracy Theorist" or a "Moron." by those who are still under the delusion. Only a few people ever look into thinhs enough to find out what is really going on.That makes you, Joel, and Heisner all under this delusion. Blind, but arrogant of their "supposed" knowledge. You are a member of a Pagan Church that began 5000 years ago, and has survived until today. And you don't even know it....so sad.?

Freeman: Mark Mywords Cities being visible on the horizon does not prove the earth is flat. If a sailboat is on the horizon of the sea and you were looking at it with a telescope, you would still see the sails; however, the hull would not be seen as it is underneath the horizon line caused by the curvature of the earth. The same is true of buildings. You can see a tall building miles and miles on the horizon, because it rises well above the horizon line. You would not be able to see ALL of the building though as some of it will be hidden. I gave you the simplest way to prove that the earth is round. Ask anyone in Australia if they can see Polaris... they can't! Just as many in the northern hemisphere will never see the southern cross. Another example is the shadow that the earth casts on the moon is ROUND during an eclipse, or do you believe that is faked as well and the moon is artificial? Go outside and check for yourself with your telescope the next lunar eclipse. These are all verifiable facts. If you search for the truth without a confirmation bias through the help of the Holy Spirit., you will find the truth.?

Mark Mywords: Freeman...that is incorrect. We can see way more of cities over lakes than we should be according the Earth's Curvature. This has been proven by science (both observable and repeatable). As for sailboats, that was solved by the same perspective. When the boat is far enough away, you shouldn't see "any" of the boat. And yet, we can. You really don't understand the curvature of the Earth, or you wouldn't be arguing it so poorly. And since Flat Earth is so far behind, because of the many of years of Ball-Earth indoctrination, it will take time for the truth to be understood. You understand things from a pagan point of view. Who does the Bible say is the "god" of this world? Do you believe that we evolved from monkeys and rocks? Not if you believe the Bible. And if the "world" lies about where man comes from, what makes you think you can trust anything it says/teaches? You are still listening to the "god" of this world, which according to the Bible, is Satan. As for the Holy Spirit, I have the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit confirms the Word. Try doing a search on the countless Scripture that denies the Heliocentric and Globe Earth Model, without using the false teachings of Joel Richardson and Michael Heisner. People like these shouldn't be teaching the Bible at all.?

Freeman: Mark Mywords I have made my case. I'm done trying to support it. You don't have anything to say about the shadow of the earth on the moon being circular during a lunar eclipse though, huh? Either way, at the end of the day it's not a doctrine of salvation. I can believe the earth is round and you can believe the earth is flat. Fine. We will both go to heaven even if we disagree, and God will make all things clear as Luke 8:17 tells us. May God bless you, and I wish you the best.?

Mark Mywords: I have already proven Flat Earth by the "lack" of curvature. It really doesn't get any simpler than that. You should look into it. Why would I need to care about the shadow of the moon, Polaris, or any other attempt to fool me back into the satanic delusions of this world? I have "seen" the Flat Earth with my own eyes. Why would I need pseudo-science to try to fool me again? If you really believe the Bible, then read the many verses that disprove the Heliocentric Globe Model, which you received by faith, from the "world." (satan's kingdom). Otherwise, how can you truly understand what God has made? And if you won't do it, then stop preaching a lie that you clearly don't understand. You are deceiving other Christians and keeping them from learning the truth, just as Joel and Michael do by twisting the Bible to say what they want it to, rather than reading for what it says.?

Mark Mywords, Youtube 5 Comments [11/10/2017 11:17:15 AM]
Fundie Index: 8

Dada Fundie Award

Quote# 134018

You're living in the flat earth coliseum. The goddesses & god's look upon us and provide gifts to those who stand in truth and sacrifice. Like put your blood next to mine published on YouTube & you will gain the favor of your creator. I stand where nobody will... I am Satan Himself Married to Lucifer Herself. I have the Spear of Destiny, Lucifer's Emerald Stone, Lucifer's Trust Fund, The Favor of Your Creator & I see what nobody see's. I'm getting to the holy grail may first. The earth is flat with a holy grail & everyone is blind, dumb & poor...

QuasiLuminous, Youtube 15 Comments [11/10/2017 11:03:36 AM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134031

Does anyone else have this thing where when White people treat you well, you start thinking better of them. But then you remember the injustice in our world and your sense of empathy for them goes away?

I always talk shit on here, but in real life things are more or less the same for me. I smile, I shake hands, I exchange small talk, and then I go about my business, and yes most of the time with White people. During some of these interactions, if they go particularly well, I start to forget about identity politics and daresay, actually start having a positive perception of White people. I begin to think of them as human, and people capable of kindness and love towards others. Yeah I know, it's crazy. But thankfully, that perception never lasts though, since I always think about the injustices committed against us, and that always leads me to dull my empathy for them. Then I realize that the White person I just had a positive interaction with is probably thinking mad racist thoughts behind my back and probably wants me dead, at that point I'm back to fully hating White people. After all, with some exceptions would I ever be stupid enough to think that the majority of White people think I'm a human being with a right to live, or they as a race are capable of love and kindness? I'll say yes if I want to end up dead somewhere down the line. I go through that cycle many times and really, I guess in general now life for a POC should just be professional and respectful in real life, but keep in mind that the person you're interacting with is holding a dagger behind their back so you should do the same. Some would say this thinking is not particularly healthy, but hey, who said survival was pretty?

taizong14, r/aznidentity 9 Comments [11/10/2017 11:51:22 AM]
Fundie Index: 6

Quote# 134023

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Attacking ‘toxic masculinity’ won’t stop sexual assault"

(Fox News story follows, here is the link:)
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/11/10/attacking-toxic-masculinity-won-t-stop-sexual-assault.html

Lady Checkmate:
The idea of masculinity being toxic is a myth and an invention of the alt-left, pro-homosexual, men-hating (specifically Christian, heterosexual men) movement. I like men and they don't need to act like a woman for me to appreciate them. God made them men on purpose and I celebrate His creation. He does all things well!

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 10 Comments [11/10/2017 11:18:27 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134022

(commenting on story "Trump: Roy Moore will 'step aside' if sexual misconduct allegations are true"

If the allegations are true, that's a darn shame. But in all honesty, this comes across as a witch hunt by those on the lat-left to scandalize and harass a conservative. They have long targeted and harassed Judge Moore. My prayers are with him and his family AND if there are any victims, with them as well.

*Any harassment will by the alt-left will NOT be played out here.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 11 Comments [11/10/2017 11:17:44 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 133994

Pedophiles will be the next group to be “normalized” by Hollywood and the mainstream media. They’ll follow the same blueprint they used to normalize homosexuality, gradually introducing pedophile characters into TV shows and movies.

On television, it will begin with brief, non-judgmental references to an unseen character “who happens to be a pedophile.” Eventually, they’ll start showing up in minor roles as the “goofy but harmless” neighbor or coworker.

At some point, they’ll become the main character of what will be hailed as a “groundbreaking” program. Stay tuned. It’s coming.

GreenHornet, Free Republic 14 Comments [11/9/2017 2:15:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 7
Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133989

(responding to story "House Dem [Al Green]'s new demand: Impeach Trump by Christmas"):

Lady Checkmate:
What a clown. He knows it won't pass and just wants to troll the potus. Loser alt-left idiot.

Luminaire:
It doesn't matter if it passes or not, they must do something so they can say they tried to do something...

Lady Checkmate:
I think I'm starting to understand the mindset of alt-left crybullies.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 7 Comments [11/9/2017 1:42:02 PM]
Fundie Index: 1
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 133988

The anatomy of political correctness

The communication strategy as reaction to the attacks is based of few main pillars:
1.Cover up, and if not possible, do not emphasise the attacker’s religion repeating the slogan – “terrorism has no religion”
2. Ignoring with silence or denying the existence of elements in the Islamic doctrine which justify violence against infidels – “Islam is a religion of peace”, “jihad is a fight for a beautiful soul”.
3. Shift the topic of public debate from the threat posed by Muslim terrorists to the alleged increase of “Islamophobia”
4. Keep ensuring the public about the value of a multicultural society.
5. Discredit all who talk about religious foundations for Islamic terrorism
6. Inspire and promote protests organised by Muslims against terrorism while avoiding speaking about the support for terrorism within this group.
7. Limit information about the victims of attacks. It’s better if they stay anonymous. No heart breaking human stories, nothing about orphaned children, or about traumas the survivors go through.
8. Diminish the significance of terror attacks – “more people die in road accidents”
9. Trying to justify terrorism – “poverty, prejudice, mental disorders are the true causes of terrorism”.
10. Quoting politicians who on one hand don’t want to admit that the Islamic terrorism exist, on the other hand they keep asserting that they can defeat it.


FRANCESCO LATORRE, Forza Nuova USA 9 Comments [11/9/2017 1:37:43 PM]
Fundie Index: 5

Quote# 134014

An ally of Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore, who is combating allegations that he had sexual contact with underage women, defended Mr Moore by noting the age gap separating the parents of Jesus Christ.

...

[Moore] retains supporters in his home state, among them Alabama State Auditor Jim Ziegler. Mr Ziegler told the Washington Examiner that “there’s nothing to see here”, noting that the alleged encounters would have occurred decades ago and that the women quoted by the Post did not say intercourse occurred.

Then Mr Ziegler floated a religious justification, noting the age gap between the parents of Jesus Christ.

“Take Joseph and Mary”, Mr Ziegler told the Examiner. “Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus”.

Jim Ziegler, The Independent 16 Comments [11/9/2017 5:19:15 PM]
Fundie Index: 9

Quote# 134019

[From "The Nutrient Theory of Mental Health"]

What causes mental illness?
Ask any psychiatrist or doctor what causes mental illness and they will tell you the same thing – no one knows exactly. There does appear to be a strong genetic factor in illnesses such as bipolar disorder, clinical depression and schizophrenia. Even though the gene location was recently discovered, the way the illnesses happen is still a mystery. Yet some intriguing possibilities are now coming to light.

Chemical imbalances in the brain
The most common explanation for mental disorders is a chemical imbalance in the brain, but how and why these imbalances happen is not yet known. Since a complex web of nutrients, such as zinc, vitamin B6, and vitamin B12, are the building blocks that the brain needs to make the right amounts of important chemicals such as neurotransmitters, it makes sense that a lack of these nutrients could cause the chemical imbalances of mental illness.

A genetic need for more nutrients
As early as the 1960s, Dr. Linus Pauling, winner of two Nobel Prizes, speculated that some people have a genetically-based need for more vitamins and minerals than other people. He wondered if mental illness could be the result of failing to meet these extra requirements. Research is now showing that Dr. Pauling may have been right. Dr. Bruce Ames, at the University of California, Berkeley, has shown that genetic mutations often result in an increased need for nutrients. He also found that taking extra amounts of these nutrients could correct the deficiencies. If a person with a genetic need for more nutrients does not get them or cannot absorb them, it makes sense that this person would, over time, become deficient.

Lack of nutrients affect brain growth factors
Brain growth factors are necessary for keeping the neuron branches healthy and connected, so that proper signals can be sent. Many nutrients have been shown to increase brain growth factor levels. A lack of these same nutrients leads to brain cell shrinkage and brain cell death. It’s not a stretch to imagine that this could play a significant role in mental illnesses.

Nutrients that depend on each other
Numerous studies have been done on the relationship between single nutrients and mental health, but none have ever turned up a “miracle nutrient.” At Truehope Nutritional Support Ltd., we believe that a broad spectrum of deficiencies results in the symptoms of mood disorders, not a deficiency of one single nutrient. And since a deficiency in one nutrient has been shown to interfere with the absorption and/or metabolism of other nutrients, a chain reaction can result in multiple deficiencies. This is the foundation of the EMPowerplus Advanced™ formulation. It provides a broad spectrum, highly absorbable range of nutrients that are essential to brain function, and it delivers them in a balance that allows inter-dependent nutrients to work together.

Clinical Trials
Clinical Trial Table 1: Micronutrient-mood case studies and case series (PDF)

Clinical Trial Table 2: Micronutrient-mood randomized controlled trials (PDF)

Anthony Stephan, Truehope 1 Comments [11/10/2017 11:08:39 AM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 133943

Just four days before the release of her newest album, a letter from Taylor Swift's attorney demanding that a website retract and delete an article critical of has has drawn a sharp (but also winking) rebuke from the American Civil Liberties Union.

A letter dated Oct. 25 and addressed to Meghan Herning, the executive editor of a small California blog named PopFront, claimed that the site's article titled "Swiftly to the alt-right: Taylor subtly gets the lower case kkk in formation" was defamatory and that if it was not retracted and removed, "Ms. Swift is prepared to proceed with litigation," according to a copy of it made public by the ACLU.

(The letter's author, attorney William J. Briggs II, did not respond to a request confirming its authenticity, nor did a Swift representative respond to a request confirming that Briggs represents Swift.)

The article in question — which veers between Kanye West's interruption of Swift at an awards show, the appropriation of Swift by white nationalists, the eugenics movement of the early 20th century, World War II and American silence toward the Nazi Party, and the lyrics of Swift's recent single "Look What You Made Me Do" — ultimately argues that Swift's perceived silence on political issues "is not innocent, it is calculated." The article argues that by not tacitly embracing progressive politics, Swift "could well be construed as her lending support to the voices rising against embracing diversity and inclusion emblematic of Trump supporters."

The article's rhetorical veracity is not the point for the ACLU, however — only that PopFront was stating an opinion about Swift, not asserting any facts.

In its response, the ACLU of Northern California writes that "Ms. Herning and PopFront will not in any way accede" to the demands. Swift is a public figure — as the ACLU explains — a designation that gives critics and journalists broad protections in what they can legally write about those figures. Anyone suing for defamation on behalf of a public figure must prove both that the writer whom they're suing published false information and was aware beforehand it was false and published it anyway. In addition, opinion is, by definition, not defamation.

The ACLU writes that Briggs' letter, a "threat" according to PopFront, does not convincingly argue that the blog purposefully defamed Swift. "Criticism is never pleasant, but a celebrity has to shake it off, even if the critique may damage her reputation," reads the ACLU's letter — shoehorning in two references to Swift's upcoming album Reputation and her 2014 hit "Shake It Off," in a single sentence.

In his letter, Briggs points to two instances that seem to undercut any connection between Swift and far-right political movements. He refers to a Washington Post story without any Swift comment that says there is no reason to think she is a neo-Nazi; he also quotes one of Swift's lawyers as saying it was safe to say "the singer is not amused" by the allegations. Briggs' cease-and-desist itself could possibly be taken as a third denial.

In a PopFront post on Monday, both Broadly, a Vice vertical "devoted to representing the multiplicity of women's experiences," and Complex Media were cited as publishing similar articles addressing the alt-right's appropriation of Swift. Requests to both asking whether they had received similar letters from Swift's attorneys were not immediately returned.

Reputation, Swift's sixth studio album, is out on Nov. 10.

Meghan Herning, NPR 3 Comments [11/8/2017 10:50:49 PM]
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