Quote# 133863

Pentacostal with a level head here. The practice of faith healing, while surrounded by skepticism, is scripturally founded. Isaiah 53 says that by Jesus' stripes, we were healed at calvary. In mark 16, Jesus tells us to not only go out and make disciples, but to go and heal the sick, raise the dead, perform miracles, etc. In James 5, Paul instructs people to lay hands on the sick and that they will recover.

I've seen many people healed by the power of prayer, be it mental or physical. I've seen friends walk into church services on crutches and leave in perfect condition. There are circumstances in which a medical outcome can only be attributed to God, for there is no physical explanation. Is it a perfect science? Absolutely not. Why does prayer not work sometimes? I couldn't begin to tell you. I do know, however, that there is healing power provided to anyone who believes for it. As for tongues being a sign of salvation, are you sure you're not confusing it with being an initial sign of the baptism of the holy spirit?

TheMonz, r/TrueChristian 13 Comments [11/5/2017 1:19:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 18185

Islam is NOT a religion, because it calls for the murder of innocents. It is fair game in my book, and it will remain so until the fools decide it's time to grow up.

Wolfcounsel, Free Conservatives 26 Comments [12/13/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 133840

[=A comment on a video educating on Christian Universalism and its intepretations in scripture; ancient languages, understandings and metaphors, etc=]

Research and discuss all your man made assumptions.. FACT is that hell is eternal fire and brimstone just as the bible says and many who had seen and been there will back up the scriptures. Only ONE version of hell and you do not want to go there. Jesus bless you all.?

Andrew Yuniar, Youtube  16 Comments [11/4/2017 4:06:29 PM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 133864

Transcript: With photographed verses from the Quran translated by Max Henning they want to show that certain quotes are definitely in the Quran that are disputed by Muslims and Islam-apologists. Next to those verses they have the clothes on from what they think are the clothes that Muslims have to wear that are subjugated under sharia law with on it writing describing the job they have in German society. What is written on it is as follows "I'll be
* kindergarten teacher
* educator
* teacher
* police officer
* prosecutor
* judge
* minister of justice
* minister of foreign affairs
* integration commissar of the German government
* chief of the German Islam conference
* chairman of the German press advisory

Civl Movement Pax Europa, PI News 1 Comments [11/6/2017 6:32:02 AM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 133477

In this country we are innocent until proven guilty. I’ll wait and see for the facts to come out.

You are literally repeating all the talking points people use to defend rapists. Misogyny and rape culture personified. How utterly predictable from you, though.
Honestly, fuck off. I am not excusing anyone. Innocent until proven guilty is the cornerstone of our country’s legal system.

No. The cornerstone of our country’s legal system was that SOME people were innocent until proven guilty. Our legal system was founded on racism and misogyny, which is why folks like you always fall back on it when you’ve got nothing else to explain away why you defend someone who sexually assaulted a woman.

moviemeister76, Daily Kos 24 Comments [10/26/2017 2:47:50 PM]
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Quote# 133883

There's LGBT calling cards? Oh fuck this politically correct bullshit, find me in r/The_Donald
Edit: Yeah just leave your down-vote and go snowflake

FadedCrown95, Reddit - /r/WWII 6 Comments [11/5/2017 4:05:20 PM]
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Quote# 133870

It's not God's will for people to get high - thats why people use it. It's pretty clear in the scriptures when it says Do not be drunk with wine but be filled with the Holy Spirit. This applies to any substance, you just can't get high or drunk.

When you get high you open yourself up to demonic infiltration. It's really not of God. I mean the fact of the matter is that there are so many poisonous mushrooms out in the wild and we know not to consume them. But God created the plants would be the reasoning for the marjiuana crowd which is just such an easy deception.

Weed just inhibits your relationship with God. You abuse the temple of your body wherein the Holy Ghost resides when you use it. You're not reaching where God wants you to be when you partake of it.

YayLove, r/TrueChristian 16 Comments [11/5/2017 1:41:52 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 132586

Time for LESS gun control

Everyone is talking about the mass murder in Las Vegas, Nevada. Last I heard there were fifty-eight dead and over four hundred wounded. Could be more by now. That is hideous. Senseless from a rational perspective. (It probably makes sense of a sort to the late murderer; I might intellectually grasp the concept if I was informed, but I cannot empathize.) I am horrified at the disregard of one human being for another.

As a Christian, I am directed to ‘love’ at least in the ‘agapeo’ sense of being concerned about my fellow man to my own expense. Certainly to value other human beings at the same level as myself. Included in that is the limitation of not murdering others for my own benefit, including amusement.

Manifestly, this did not apply to the murderer. At least at the time of his action, he didn’t value any of his victims in any sense I would understand. I do not claim to have magical or Divinely directed insight on his thinking, but his actions tend to give this impression. That mass murder that the murderer committed demonstrates a disregard for other human life. (From the circumstances one can rule out ‘just war’ or ‘self-defense’ as exemptions to the ‘murder’ concept; whether the reader accepts those concepts or not, they simply do not apply.)

In Christian terms, “sin” is disobedience of God. God’s will and or God’s direct command. Even without a Christian world-view, one can agree murder (killing another for personal reasons) is at least wrong, and ‘sinful’ by that criteria. (If anyone disagrees, please explain.) Therefore, murder, these murders is the result of sin. At least for us Christians; non-Christians are free to theorize the murderer committed the acts because his underwear didn’t fit, or his parents didn’t buy him a dog or a bad breakfast or something. (Feel free to disagree, but explain please. I’d really like to hear.)

In fact, Jesus once made the statement about the inner being of a human (called the ‘heart’ in both Hebrew and Greek language and thinking) is the source of wrongful thoughts and actions. I think ‘modern’ psychiatry would call this part of a human the ‘id’. (I could be mistaken, but most all authorities agree there is a ‘central’ or ‘core’ portion of the human which to some extent or other directs human attitudes and actions.)

In [the gospel of] Matthew, chapter 15, and Mark 7, Jesus is taken to task – criticized – by a small group of Pharisees because His (Jesus’) disciples didn’t follow a tradition (rule of conduct loosely based on the Mosaic Law) regarding the ceremonial washing of hands. To be clear, this was not a violation of one’s Mother warning one to wash hands before eating to avoid germs, but a violation of a ceremonial rule (possibly verging on superstition) regarding ‘legal’ preparation for eating. Ignoring this rule was not just bad manners or slovenly living, but a ‘sin’ against God, according to the tradition.

Cutting much of the discussion (read Matthew 15 and Mark 7 for two accounts of the whole treatment), Jesus summed up the matter by telling the Pharisees “Listen to me, everyone, and understand. There is nothing outside of a person that can defile him by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles him.” (Matthew 15:17 and Mark 7:15 both say essentially the same thing.) Later on, Jesus expounds a bit to His disciples by telling them (Matthew 15: 16-20 and Mark 7: 18-22) Jesus said, “Even after all this, are you still so foolish? Don’t you understand that whatever goes into the mouth enters the stomach and then passes out into the sewer? But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these things defile a person. For out of the heart come evil ideas, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are the things that defile a person; it is not eating with unwashed hands that defiles a person.”

From this, one understands that external ‘artifacts’ are not particularly in control of a person’s actions or attitudes, but one’s own desires and intents are in control.

The concept ‘artifacts’ cause human behavior is difficult to explain and quite absurd in practice. No one really believes ball point pens cause forgery, ball point pens cause mis-spelled words, flatware causes obesity, automobiles cause excessive speed or traffic accidents, windows cause peeping Toms, and my favorite, television causes insipidness of thought.

Of course, there is a political and life-style faction which holds firearms cause crime, especially violent crime. Which is as silly and irrational as any of the above.

The mass murder in Las Vegas is indeed horrific. As was the mass murder in the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida in 2016. As was the Oklahoma City Bombing in 1995. As was several other mass murders without rational purpose. Reasonable humans want to prevent such things from happening again.

However, blaming artifacts is wasting time and effort. Not to mention those sorts of mass murders will continue. The instrumentality may be different, but the murders will be the same.

Archie Montgomery, Old Man Montgomery  15 Comments [10/4/2017 10:42:47 PM]
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Quote# 133846

It's much bigger than IQ. Down's syndrome is being eliminated in Europe and suppressed in the US by prenatal screening and abortion. Since every trait has some genetic component, pretty soon we will be able to check for homosexuality, transgender susceptibility, Alzheimer syndrome, Tay-Barre and even feminism and progressivism. Imagine the great social improvements by eliminating those traits. It would far exceed the benefits of selecting for high IQ.

By the way, people are already aborting fetuses because they are male or female.

Bob Sykes, Information Processing 14 Comments [11/5/2017 6:03:23 AM]
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Quote# 133345

Cub Scout kicked out after asking lawmaker about gun control

Associated Press

DENVER (AP) - A Cub Scout was kicked out of his den after he questioned a Colorado state lawmaker about her position on gun control and previous comments she made about African-Americans' health and eating fried chicken.

It was the latest political flashpoint for the Boy Scouts after President Donald Trump used his speech at the organization's national jamboree in July to rail against "fake news" and former President Barack Obama and boast about beating Hillary Clinton.

Eleven-year-old Ames Mayfield posed the questions at an Oct. 9 event in Broomfield, between Denver and Boulder. Cub Scouts had been told to come prepared to talk to Republican state Sen. Vicki Marble about issues important to them.

Ames' mother, Lori Mayfield, said a local scout leader later told her that the topic of gun control was inappropriate because of its political nature and that the boy's questions were disrespectful.

The Boy Scouts, which includes the Cub Scouts, refused to comment on why the boy was asked to leave but say he will remain in scouting after finding a new group.

"The Boy Scouts of America is a wholly nonpartisan organization and does not promote any one political position, candidate or philosophy," the organization said Friday in a statement.

Cub Scouts is for children in the first through fifth grades. They meet in groups of children from the same grade called "dens," which are part of larger "packs."

Ames was only kicked out of his den, not the larger pack. Since the other available den met while he attends classes, changing to another den within the pack was not an option. He's joining a den in a new pack at his church, his mother said.

The leaders of the group that kicked Ames out did not return phone messages and emails left by The Associated Press.

In online videos recorded by Lori Mayfield, the scouts asked questions about why people wanted to vote for Obama just because he was black and about Trump's proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. It was unclear which scouts asked the questions. Mayfield blurred the identities of all the children except for that of her son.

In the video showing Ames asking about gun control, he read from a printed sheet, telling the lawmaker that he was shocked that she sponsored a bill that allowed domestic violence offenders to own guns. He also rattled off a list of survey statistics about Americans' views on the issue and spoke about the trouble Las Vegas shooting victims would have paying their bills.

"There is something wrong in our country where Republicans believe it's a right to own a gun but a privilege to have health care. None of that makes sense to me," he said.

After nearly 2½ minutes, an adult is heard cutting him off, remarking on his thorough question. Marble responds by talking about the need for "crime control" instead and saying that the Vegas shooting and the 2012 Aurora theater shooting both happened in "gun-free zones."

Marble drew national attention in 2013 after she seemed to draw a link between the health of black people and eating fried chicken and barbecue in comments made during a legislative committee hearing. The head of the state Republican Party and others criticized her words.

She then issued a statement saying she was saddened that her comments were interpreted as disparaging.

During the scout meeting, Ames told Marble that he was "astonished that you blamed black people" for their health problems.

She replied, "I didn't. That was made up by the media. So you want to believe it, you believe it, but that's not how it went down."

Marble went on to say Americans enjoy multicultural food but cautioned that people also need to consider whether they are predisposed to any diseases because of their genetic makeup.

In a statement Friday, Marble said she did not know about Ames' dismissal until she read about it. She said she did not blame him because she thought there was an "element of manipulation involved" by his mother.

Mayfield denies that. She said she and her son, whom she said is gifted and likes to watch the news, researched Marble together, and she typed up his questions using his words. The mother questioned why the Scouts would chose to invite such a controversial lawmaker to speak.

The Boy Scouts and their Denver-area governing council said they were "pleased that the family will continue their participation in scouting," the statement said. "We are committed to working with families to find local units that best fit their needs."


Associated Press writers James Anderson in Denver and Tamara Lush in St. Petersburg, Florida, contributed to this report.

Boy Scouts; Colorado state senator Vicki Marble, WIS 12 Comments [10/23/2017 2:50:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Thanos6

Quote# 133834

This is a state of man (inediate, not-eater, breatharian) characterized by the absence of eating, resulting from (or rather being a stage on the way to) expanding of the Consciousness sphere in which man lives. In general an ideal (fully realized) inediate, breatharian or not-eater has no need to eat or drink to keep the body working perfectly. A breatharian consumes no food and no drink, they needs only air to nourish the body.

Many not-eaters (even if they call themselves a breatharian) drink water, tea, coffee or other beverages from time to time. Some of them, in order to satisfy the sense of taste, eat a piece of chocolate, a cookie, some cheese, horseradish or something else once in a while. The not-eating state of an inediate, breatharian, not-eater doesn't require any ascetic practices of the body. This is more about the freedom of choice and a lot of benefits.

A person who regularly drinks liquid food, e.g. fruit juices, can't be called an inediate, breatharian or not-eater. This is a diet called liquidarianism. Also, we don't call a person an inediate or breatharian when he/she is fasting or on a starvation diet. Also in these cases food is not (or almost not) consumed during some time, but such situation lasts only temporary and then food consumption is resumed or the person dies. An inediate or breatharian, never starves or dies for lack of food because his/her body needs not matter called food.

Permanent not-eating, inedia or breatharianism are states which usually appear as a side effect of expanding one's sphere of the Consciousness. However there are also many cases that this state happened unexpectedly and lasted for months or years. A person who by force tries to refrain from eating can't be called an inediate or breatharian. Such action, if prolonged, is harmful to the body and can lead to death. Fasting and starvation diet are different subjects the inedia, breatharianism and not-eating.

Becoming an inediate or breatharian results (often as a side effect) on a way of expanding the sphere of the Consciousness which the person lives in. Inedia, breatharianism is more like a characteristic features of a life style and is not limited to just stopping all food intake. Because an inediate or breatharian sets him/herself free from the need to feed the body, he/she has the choice to eat or not to eat, but one thing is for sure, a real inediate or breatharian does not need to eat to keep the body working normally.

Explanations for the open-minded. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." No matter whether we believe in something or not, the phenomenon takes place irrespective of our knowledge or belief. Besides, no matter how we try to explain it, is the explanation arrived at really so important? The most important thing is that from the beginning of our civilization, there always were people who never ate. Such people existed, exist and will exist, which means that we too have this capability. We only need to find a way to adapt the body to a different kind of energy processing.

Explanation for an esoteric person: Ubiquitous energy, whether called prana, qi, ki, orgon, liquid light or by other names, maintains the organism of someone who doesn't eat. A human body can be powered by prana if the subconscious (which manages the body metabolism and shapes the physical body) acquires the skill of automatic transformation of ubiquitous prana to satisfy the needs of a human body.

Explanation for those scientifically-minded: Of all the other organisms, the human body is the most complicated, integrated and self-regulated energetic system. It is complicated and in many aspects unexplored computer-mechanic-chemical formation, controlled by the brain with the whole layout of magnetic, electric and gravity radiation. This complicated machine can be adapted to all possible living conditions on Earth, if given enough time and developed in right way. We haven't fully explored the human organism energy system. One of the ways of powering human body is energy and substances created by the chemical and physical factory of the body (excretory and respiratory system). Apart from this powering system, there is another, a reserve one (or maybe major one but moved away to the reserve role), which is able to transform the available energy directly. This powering system transforms the energy directly into matter, so in this way all that the organism needs.

The pineal gland is claimed to have a crucial role in this process. This hypothesis is confirmed by research undergone on some people, where CAT scanning shows a significant enlargement of this gland. The pineal gland manages (like a central processing unit) the mechanism of direct energy exchange between the organism cell and the surroundings (it actually occurs at a sub-atom level).One explanation, purely scientific, which comes from a nuclear physic says as follows: the organism consists of tissues, which are built of chemical molecules, and next these molecules are built of atoms. Atoms consist of electrons and protons, which are built of smaller elements. As the result of this way of looking for an origin element, we reach the point, where the matter does not exist. There, we have only something, which we can call vibrational whirls of energy.

As long as history exists it has been known under different definitions, for example prana, orgon, light. Hence such definitions originated such as "living on light" or "prana nourishment". All the matter which exists in the Universe, including the human body, is comprised of whirls of vibrational energy. The human body is the best well-known sophisticated, programmable and simultaneously self-controlled electronic-physical-chemical machine with a central management system, called the brain. There are centers in the brain, which manage body energy and chemistry (mainly pineal gland and pituitary). In this way, the organism lives and builds itself using these whirls of energy.

Explanation for a deeply religious person: God is everything. There is nothing which exists without God, there is nothing which has not been created by God. The inconceivable and almighty God is the only One and the highest perfection. Since the Almighty God has created everything and He/She/It is the highest inconceivable perfection, He/She/It can bestow the ability to live without eating on people of His/Her/Its choice. Since God is inconceivable and almighty, it is no use asking how God is able to do this. Important is the fact that God can and does select people to receive this grace. We can ask God for the grace of not eating, because God listens to sincere requests of the devoted children.

Unknown author, Breatharian.info 10 Comments [11/4/2017 4:04:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 133844

The other delusion is the fact that the earth is not a globe, but flat as God stated in Genesis. we are at the center of creation, not the sun. above us is the firmament, which separates the waters. This destroys, the globe model, the planets, and the theory of evolution which, has led so many astray.?

Marciyah The Hebrew, Youtube 15 Comments [11/5/2017 6:02:16 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 133859

The quest for knowledge, the passion for discovering objective truth, seems to me the most fundamental characteristic of Europeanness, one that we can already see apparent in the Ancient Greeks. Aristotle, for example, wrote a book that was just an objective description of all the animal species he knew about. No philosophy, nothing abstract. Just the facts. That’s Europeanness right there, thousands of years ago.
Ultimately, it was our civilisation’s passion for investigating objective truth through science that took it to global dominance. And it is our current fixation on the subjective – on psychology, emotion, motivation – that will be our downfall. Unless we can cure ourselves of it.

Rational debate about our future has become impossible due to the charges of impure motivation that are immediately flung at anyone who attempts to engage in it: racism, islamophobia, antisemitism, etc. Implicit in these charges is the idea that impure motivation invalidates everything a person says. The criterion of objective truth is disregarded.

We should never forget where this curious notion comes from: the Talmudic legal system and its obsession with the purity of a witness’s motivation.

More generally, non-Europeans, have played a critical role in pushing the obsession with the subjective upon us. The Jewish pseudoscience of psycho-analysis cast a long shadow over the 20th century, one whose influence is still with us today even though its “science” aspect has now been utterly discredited.

czakal, Wordpress 1 Comments [11/5/2017 1:17:47 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 20219

The more I think about the "liberation of women" from their supposedly oppressed status under the heavy hands of men, the more astonished I am that such liberation would express itself in such determined willingness to murder helpless children, simply because of their stage of development.

The irony is breathtaking.

christdependent, CARM 36 Comments [2/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 133867

I just know that prayers do get answered.

And I know that if God did not exist, I would not be able to pray, because I would not know Him.

And I know that no amount of wilful sarcasm on the subject could ever happen unless God gave people the gift of free will.

Alan Burns, Religion and Ethics 5 Comments [11/5/2017 1:38:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 133837

In a world like this where humanity is continuously facing new obstacles and dangers we need to do everything we can to survive. Eugenics will help us with that! Eugenics will make us stronger and better and more prepared to fight! We do not know what the human body develop to, in 50 years we could be as strong as bears and as fast as antelopes!

If people would just open there eyes to what eugenics can help us become! And yes, overpopulating is a problem, but eugenics can help us solve that, my friends! As more developed human arise we can cut out the less useful ones! If I must be one of them, then when that day arises, I will, as a rightful soul, sacrifice myself for humanity.

TheStrongLeader, Debate 14 Comments [11/4/2017 4:05:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 20223

1)Logic exist

2)Logic is absolute

3)Logic can't exist without a mind. (hence they are conceptual)

4) Logic transcends space and time.

Since logic is absolute, trascends space and time, and can't exist without a mind, therefore there must be an absolute, mind that exist and transcends space and time.

In Yeshua's name, CARM 47 Comments [2/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 20230

At any rate, in real life Evolutionism has nothing to do with genetics. It's a belief system which essentially deifies nature by attributing to it creative properties. It is nothing but a rehashing of classical pantheism but gouged in modern terms. The only difference between Evolutionism and most classical pantheistic belief systems is that evolutionism glorifies death far FAR more, but just like its ancient predecessors, it is completely unsupported by empirical studies.

jmsnooks, DeviantArt 32 Comments [2/3/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 133802

A good alternate title would be 'One step closer to midnight'.

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 15 Comments [11/4/2017 2:57:41 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 133803

"Or alternatively they could've appealed to the 13th amendment which makes slavery illegal."

You are confusing "legal" with "moral" and "limiting rights" with "slavery."

Equating the abolishment of abortion with "gestational slavery" is the "logical" equivalent of saying that the REAL slavers were the ones who abolished slavery by limiting the "rights" of slaveowners. You can surely see what kinds of absurdities that leads to - reducing the "rights" of murderers, rapists, and pedophiles somehow becomes "slavery."

What you REALLY need to prove is why it is moral to apply the death penalty to innocent humans. (Unless you are going to deny simple science and declare that the human in the womb is somehow not human.)

Good luck making that case!

WorldGoneCrazy-NotMurderedYet, Live Action News 8 Comments [11/4/2017 2:58:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 133804

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Anthony Stephan, Truehope 13 Comments [11/4/2017 2:58:34 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 133823

(Responding to story "Country music publicist Kirt Webster offered fans meet-and-greets, backstage passes in exchange for sex, employees say"):

That's why you should never trust an alt-left lunatic in business.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 17 Comments [11/4/2017 12:37:38 PM]
Fundie Index: 4
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 125591

Bill Nye, “the Science Guy,” is getting his own film—Bill Nye: Science Guy. This documentary, funded on Kickstarter, is supposed to be “A film for science. A film for the cosmos. The full access, exclusive film about Bill Nye.” The page for the premiere of the event describes it as,

Bill Nye is retiring his kid show act in a bid to become more like his late professor, astronomer Carl Sagan. Sagan dreamed of launching a spacecraft that could revolutionize interplanetary exploration. Bill sets out to accomplish Sagan's mission, but he is pulled away when he is challenged by evolution and climate change contrarians to defend the scientific consensus. Can Bill show the world why science matters in a culture increasingly indifferent to evidence?

Based on that description, it doesn’t sound like a film for science—it’s a film to promote evolution and man-made climate change as fact. A number of well-known atheists are listed as featuring in this movie—and so am I! In addition to his movie, Nye will also have his own TV show again, Bill Nye Saves the World, on Netflix this spring. Although we don’t know for sure, it’s very likely this show will also dedicate time to defending evolutionary ideas and drastic man-made climate change.

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 36 Comments [3/21/2017 2:28:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 128115

The Secularist Media War Against the Ark Continues

Recently, a number of articles in the mainstream media, on blogs, and on well-known secularist group websites have attempted to spread propaganda to brainwash the public into thinking our Ark Encounter attraction is a dismal failure. Sadly, they are influencing business investors and others in such a negative way that they may prevent Grant County, Kentucky, from achieving the economic recovery that its officials and residents have been seeking.

In one sense, such negative, misleading, and outright false reporting doesn’t worry me. As Christians, we know we will receive opposition like this—and after 40 years in Bible-upholding ministry, I have become used to such antics by those who oppose us. Nowadays, it seems very few reporters in the secular media actually want to report facts regarding what they cover as news. When it comes to reporting on theologically conservative Christians like those of us at AiG, whose ideology they strongly oppose, many writers have an agenda to undermine Christianity as they file their stories.

I’ve found that not only do these kinds of reporters generally do very poor or lazy research, they will actually make things up for their agenda purposes. They often just quote others, who themselves have quoted yet others, who have quoted even yet others. Urban legends have now been created around our life-size Noah’s Ark, mixing misleading and untrue statements gathered from a variety of sources, often not using primary sources but hearsay.

A Recent Case in Point

Let me give you a recent example. Reporter Linda Blackford wrote a recent front-page article on the Ark Encounter for the secular newspaper the Lexington Herald Leader of Kentucky (the state’s second largest paper). Her article was titled “Town Expected Flood of Business after Noah’s Ark Opened. So Far, It’s a Trickle.”1

After reading that headline and then her article, I was convinced that she (and probably her editor) had an agenda even before she began her research and writing. She was determined to convince readers that the Ark Encounter wasn’t successful and that it hadn’t had much of a positive economic impact or created jobs in Grant County. As she ignored overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the reporter misquoted the few people she did interview and deliberately wrote an article that hid the whole truth about the tremendous economic impact that the Ark Encounter has had on all of Northern Kentucky. Her motivation? Well, because her newspaper has been known for antagonism toward anything Christian, and AiG has experienced this agenda from the paper over the years, what’s occurred here is yet another example of its anti-Christian bias.


Intolerant Atheists

The Herald-Leader isn’t the only secular media outlet spreading such maligning anti-AiG propaganda. Many secular bloggers and organizations like the Freedom From Religion Foundation and Americans United for Separation of Church and State have produced videos and/or printed articles filled with misinformation and deliberate falsehoods in their attempt to hide the truth about the success of the Ark.

Many articles, for example, have actually stated that the city of Williamstown, where the Ark is located, is liable for the $62 million dollar bond offering that was part of the funding for the Ark. That’s simply a lie. Answers in Genesis is totally liable for that bond offering, which states:

The Series 2013 Bonds shall not be general obligations of the Issuer but special and limited obligations payable solely from the amounts payable under the loan agreement and from funds and property pledged pursuant to the indenture. The Series 2013 Bonds and the interest payable thereon do not now and shall never constitute indebtedness of the Issuer or the Commonwealth of Kentucky within the meaning of the Constitution or the Statutes of the Commonwealth, and neither the Issuer, the Commonwealth of Kentucky nor any political subdivision thereof shall be liable for the payment of the principal of, premium, if any, or interest on the Series 2013 Bonds or for the performance of any pledge, mortgage, obligation or agreement created by or arising under the indenture or the Series 2013 Bonds from any property other than the trust estate. Neither the faith and credit nor the taxing power of the Issuer, the Commonwealth of Kentucky or any political subdivision thereof is pledged to the payment of the principal of, premium, if any, or interest on the Series 2013 Bonds.3

Yes, the bonds were issued through the city, but the city is not responsible for one cent of this offering. Some articles even say the bond offering is part of the TIF—which is simply ridiculous! The amount of misinformation and outright lies about the Ark project is staggering.

Why so many lies and misinformation? Simply because we are in a spiritual battle, and the intolerant secularists are so upset with such world-class attraction like the Ark (and Creation Museum) that publicly proclaim a Christian message. They will resort to whatever tactics they deem necessary to try to malign the attractions.

Of course, negative reporting and commentary result in more advertising for our facilities! As I witness all this opposition and see such opposition backfiring, I am reminded again of what Joseph declared and how it applies to us today:

As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. (Genesis 50:20)

Ken Ham, Answers in Genesis 24 Comments [6/14/2017 2:46:14 AM]
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Submitted By: Yossarian Lives

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Studies have shown the health benefits of brief periods of fasting, but one couple is making the bizarre claim that they have learned to survive largely without food and are instead sustained by “cosmic nourishment”. Camila Castello, 34, and Akahi Ricardo, 36, are what is known as “Breatharians”. They say they eat just three times a week, with each ‘meal’ consisting of just a piece of fruit or some vegetable broth.

Such claims have attracted equal measures of ridicule and alarm in the past. Breatharianism has been linked to the deaths of several people, including Verity Linn, a 49-year-old Australian whose emaciated body was found on a mountain in north-west Scotland in 1999, alongside a diary recounting her 21-day fast and a copy of a book by the founder of Breatharianism, known as Jasmuheen.

Born in Australia as Ellen Greve, Jasmuheen has herself warned of the dangers of life with no or very food.

“If a person is unprepared and not listening to their inner voice there can be many problems with the 21-day process, from extreme weight loss to even loss of their life,” she wrote in one of her books. Jasmuheen took part in a monitored fast for Australia’s 60 Minutes news programme in an attempt to prove her claims, but the show’s doctors cut short her attempt to last seven days after she became dehydrated, lost weight and her speech began to slow.

Nevertheless, Castello and Ricardo, who live between California and Ecuador, say they have forgotten what it feels like to be hungry. They claim they survive on the “energy that exists in the universe and in themselves”. “Humans can easily be without food, as long as they are the connected to the energy that exists in all things and through breathing,” Castello says.

“For three years, Akahi and I didn’t eat anything at all and now we only eat occasionally like if we’re in a social situation or if I simply want to taste a fruit. “With my first child, I practised a Breatharian pregnancy. Hunger was a foreign sensation to me so I fully lived on light and ate nothing.

“My blood tests during all three trimesters were impeccable and I gave birth to a healthy, baby boy.” Dee Dawson, an expert on eating disorders, once gave an insightful explanation as to why some people seem to honestly believe they are do not need food. “Breatharianism is a fraud, but breatharians may be deluded,” she told the Guardian.

She suggested believers tend to overlook some of the food they eat in a similar way to people who are struggling with their weight. "Every obese person who comes into my surgery says, 'Doctor, I can't understand why I'm not losing weight — I haven't eaten all week,” Dawson said.

“Then I say 'What did you have for breakfast?' 'Oh, just three pieces of toast.' 'And lunch?' 'Just one sausage and few chips...' Add it all up and they've eaten 2,000 calories that day.” While Castello says she “ate nothing” during her pregnancy, this is meant as a figure of speech meaning “almost nothing” as she also says she “only ate five times, all of which were in social situations”.

The couple have a five-year-old son and a two-year-old daughter, but they don’t impose their Breatharian lifestyle on the children. “Our children are aware of Breatharianism and the energy that exists in the universe and in themselves,” Ricardo says.

“But we would never try to change them and we let them eat whatever they want – whether that be juices, vegetables, pizza or ice-cream! “We want them to explore the different tastes and have a healthy relationship with food as they grow. It would be unfair to impose Breatharianism upon our children now but maybe as they grow, they will get deeper into the practices.”

The couple met in 2005 and first discovered Breatharianism in 2008. They eventually transitioned from vegetarians, to raw vegans, to fruitarians and finally to Breatharians. “There is a freedom that comes with not being attached or dependent on food,” Ricardo says. “Obviously, our living costs are a lot less than most families and that has allowed us to spend our money on things that really matter like travelling and exploring together.

“It’s given us a clear sense of what we want in life ... It’s not about never eating food again, it’s about understanding cosmic nourishment (not just physical nourishment) and living without limits." According to the NHS, “eating a healthy, balanced diet is an important part of maintaining good health".They recommend a balance of fruit, vegetables, starchy foods, dairy or dairy alternatives, protein, unsaturated fats and plenty of fluids

Camila Castello and Akahi Ricardo, The Independent 6 Comments [11/4/2017 4:04:01 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie