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Quote# 134271



Sierra _, Tom Resendez DC and Sara _, Facebook 10 Comments [11/17/2017 3:03:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 108112

This is NOT a typical commercialized back-to-school special for tots and teens. This page is entirely for parents and grandparents of school-aged children to help you identify any signs and signals of interest in occultism, satanism, witchcraft or other evils.

Following are a few, and only a few of the symbols used by practitioners of evil. While some of these symbols are used as logos for seemingly innocent reasons and/or activities and even for righteous religious purposes, possession and display of them may be indication of something not so innocent or righteous.

This material is based on personal research and in part on the work of our brother Bill Schnoebelen, and largely on the work of Drs. Michael Haynes and Paul Carlin: Satanism in America: What They Do Not Want You To Know, ©1989, Kerusson Company, Inc.

You may want to check with the local laws first, but as Dr. Haynes told me, look everywhere for evidence of these icons. Everywhere. In the child's dresser, closet and backpack; on his/her books, notepads and pencil boxes; under his/her mattress, throw rug and CD player. Look even under previously secure but now loose carpet corners. And if evidence is there, have an electrician check the outlet and switch boxes and lamp fixtures. Your child might argue "It's MY room! You have no right to search it!" Well, it's YOUR house and YOUR child.

Some occultists and satanists are very serious about stealing your child, both spiritually and physically. In a 1987 radio broadcast, Paul Harvey reported that of the missing California children, about 20% of them had been eaten in sacrificial rituals. This assault is no joke, mom/dad. And it is not regional or state-specific.

You must be very serious about protecting or saving your child from the heinous criminals. Think of it in the way Carrol O'Conner ("Archie Bunker") put it in a plea after the death of his son by drug overdose: "Do anything you can to get between your kid and drugs...anything." Be prepared to do anything you can to get between your child and the dark world...and take Jesus with you!

As you review this material, you might end up saying to yourself "Gimme a break! Some of these symbols are as innocent as a baby!" Some of these symbols may indeed be used innocently and even for wholesome purposes but please understand that the minions of Satan will use any means they can to turn your children away from God and you during their most impressionable years. They may use something as widely accepted and embraced as ignominy in the entertainment industry. They may use simple but compelling suggestions from people who do not believe in God. He may even use a type of belief in a supreme being other than God such as a belief in the planet earth as a god(ess). They may even use symbols that are used by many people both unawares and intentional. Whatever it is that turns one away from God and His Word is not holy and is not from God. And if it is not from God...

Above I said and worth repeating "While some of these symbols are used as logos for seemingly innocent reasons and/or activities and even for righteous religious purposes, possession and display of them may be indication of something not so innocent or righteous." MAY be indication... Just because some groups and individuals use the symbols and icons on this page for evil/satanic interests does NOT mean all who sport them do. And sporting them does not necessarily mean they who do so are expressing any interest in or allegiance to evil intent. All I am suggesting is that if your child(ren) sport(s) any of these symbols, check it out.

Just remember that the Truth in and of His Word does not depend on us believing it for it to be true. The price of sin is death whether we believe it. Jesus died in atonement of our sins whether we believe it. He loves us - every one of us - whether we believe it. And His Love is the only truly unconditional love.

Tom Carder, CAPAlert 18 Comments [4/28/2015 2:54:46 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 134229

You mentioned on PAH that you have your own opinions on the morality surrounding necrophilia and zoophilia. I'm curious, what do you think?



ok, hi there! So well, be ready for some little controversy, I guess :P

First of all I would like to state a general and short view of my moral conceptions. I’m a moral nihilist, in the sense that I don’t think that there is a superior moral system that rules them all and that is objective and natural and everyone should follow by the law of god or any other superior power. I think morals are a social construct, based in a specific culture and society and that changes over time, but that aren’t based in any objective source. The common things you can find in different societies are easily explained by some kind of “societies darwinism”. Mostly, the societies that follow a moral system where they take care of their own people and punish some stuff (as murdering of your own, for example) have more chances to survive that a society without morals where everything is fair game. That kind of society is self-destructive, so every human society groups towards some basics due to survival instintics, but not because those are the objective, good things. Some times a society morals can be, in fact, pretty harmful for some individuals even if they truly believe that is the right way to go, the logic and natural order.

So, going from this, I think a moral system is needed, of course. For the good of both, individuals and society survival and wellbeing. As I have said, an ‘everything is fair game’ society is a condemned society. But if we don’t have an objective moral, not a power superior to men to tell us what is wrong and what is right and traditional values are exposed as old constructs that can easily being wrong, what can we do? Well, my solution is created a moral of consense, a moral based in the best for everyone. And that is where my morals stands. My rules are easy. Every situation should be judged carefully and individually, they aren’t real moral statements or absolute truths aside a couple of things “every action should be consensual” and “something is wrong if it causes you or anyone else an involuntary harm”. And even these things have exceptions in some extreme or specific situations (I can provide you with examples if you want to, I love discussing morals!).

Now, making this clear (and if you have any question or don’t understand something ask me, no fear ^^) I’ll give you my thoughts around these two issues, that can be kinda out of the morals of our current society.

-Necrophilia: I don’t think this is inherently immoral in any way. I dont see corpses as people. They aren’t human beings, they are, in a strict sense, a piece of meat. Of course, there is a big taboo about this for different reasons. We have the obvious one, people who still see the bodies as their loved ones and feel it as an attack to them, a disrespectful action. We also have the fear of death and the general taboo that it has (people who don’t even want to talk about death, people who are scared to go for a walk into a cemetery, people who look at you as a weirdo for liking “dark” things and gothic literature… there are plenty of this). And adding to that, we have misconceptions about the problems it can give you (diseases. People associate corpses with disease and this is normal, since humanity has gone through a lot of epidemics and the cultural memory about it remains. But the reality is different. If someone wasn’t sick before death they aren’t dangerous as a corpse. People still don’t understand this).

So, summarizing, I don’t think there is something inherently immoral about necrophilia. I don’t think these actions are something wrong itself. However, we need to understand our context and the effect of our actions. I don’t have this taboo, I think it is absurd and just a norm that comes from a sex-negative, scared of the death society that I don’t agree with. But I understand that not everyone is like me. That for some people it would be harmful, that they wouldn’t want this for their loved ones, so, and since you live in a specific context and our actions have consequences in real people’s lifes, you can’t just have sex with random corpses. Not because it is immoral, but because it can harm someone else (not the corpse, the corpse is not a person anymore).

I think the best way to go over this is educating people about why it isn’t harmful or immoral, explain the taboo and maybe someday we get a society where this isn’t seem as terrible and awful and people can have sex with corpses (I have always thought in some kind of necrocard, you know, like for organ donations, consent to necrophilic sex before die so the problem of consent gets solved. I know from plenty of people who wouldn’t care to give their corpses for this. It isn’t such a crazy idea after all).

-Zoophilia: I can feel this one is going to bring even more controversy up. But well, here we go. I don’t think every action in every case of sexual interaction with an animal is wrong. Harming an animal for pleasure is wrong. I don’t support animal abuse and zoosadism in any way. I believe that animals are living beings with a sense of pain and they deserve to be respected and treated properly. You can kill animals for eating. That is understable and natural. Killing them for fun is something I don’t approve. Causing them pain for fun is something I don’t approve either.

But now, about sex. Sex with an animal is not always something violent or traumatic as we could think. Sex is not inherently harmful and wrong just because it is sex. Also, animals *can* consent in a way. Of course, they can’t tell you what they want, but you can understand their reactions. It is obvious when an animal is distressed or in pain, when an animal is scared or uncomfortable and then you know something is wrong. It is obvious too when an animal is happy and feeling good, when an animal is comfortable and wants something. This applies to sex too. If the sex is unwilling, painful, distressful or hurts the animal in any way I’m against it. But if the animal is comfortable, seeks it, it’s ok and doesn’t get hurt I don’t see the problem. For example (*cw: for explicit stuff*, maybe?), if a girl puts some jam on her genitals and let a dog licks it to get sexual pleasure, where is the harm? Or a dog topping a man, how does the dog suffer? (*end of cw*) Also, we have to remember that some animals are proved as being specially anthropophilics (dolphins and dogs are prominent examples), that means they are sexually aroused by humans. They want to have sex with humans. And interspecies sex is not that weird either (and we get hybrids from it).

So, the summary here, I think if the sex is not harmful for the animal (not physically, not emotionally, like causing pain, distress, angst, fear…) and the animal shows signs around it of being comfortable and fine then it isn’t wrong. Of course, the person would be the responsable and would need to pay attention to all the animal’s reactions and notify any problem and stop it that happens. But doing properly, I don’t think it is wrong. (Ah, and if someone’s argument is ‘but sex with humans/like that is inherently traumatic for the animal! They are rape victims in every case and they suffer trauma for it’ I have to say that no, animals don’t have that conception about sex that humans have. They are animals. They don’t have the psychological development to have beliefs about sex or cultural conceptions of it. That is purely a human thing).

Well, these are mostly my thoughts, if you want to ask something else or need I make something clear or any other thing, just go for it, I’m always happy to reply :)

Tags: #anon #asks #morals #zoophilia #necrophilia #opinions #answer #me #sex positivity

Aleskakolja, Tumblr 5 Comments [11/17/2017 2:58:18 AM]
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Quote# 106512

Islam has never killed anyone for unrighteous reasons
It is true,

ISLAM is the true religion and is directly from the Prophet (peace unto him).

You see lies in the news, we are the ones being terrorized by infedels filled with lust and hate.

ISLAM has never killed anyone unrightously, ISLAM only kills to purge and make clean the ways of Allah.

If you lie about Islam or the Prophet (peace unto him) you to shall be purged...

Gorane, Godlike Productions 37 Comments [2/20/2015 4:17:04 AM]
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Quote# 134293

-Sexual activity between adults and children is found in all primate species, and all pre-industrial cultures without a taboo on child sexuality. It is just as "normal", biologically speaking, as homosexual behavior.
-Pedophilia is not a mental illness, but a sexual orientation. The conclusion of the final DSM-V is that the term "pedophilia" by itself does not refer to a psychiatric disorder. There is no longer an entry for "Pedophilia" but only one for "Pedophilic Disorder", and it states that if individuals "report an absence of feelings of guilt, shame, or anxiety about these impulses and are not functionally limited by their paraphilic impulses (according to self-report, objective assessment, or both), and their self-reported and legally recorded histories indicate that they have never acted on their impulses, then these individuals have a pedophilic sexual orientation but not pedophilic disorder."
-There is no evidence pedophilia is the result of any kind of abuse. This is an urban myth discredited by scientific research.
Freund, Kurt; Watson, R.; and Dickey, R. (1990). "Does sexual abuse in childhood cause pedophilia: an exploratory study," Archives of Sex

Cannibalism is also found in primate species. I guess we should just make cannibalism legal? The whole point of being human is not giving in to disgusting impulses like pedophilia and cannibalism.



Why is consensual and mutually pleasurable sexual activity between children and adults "disgusting"? Plenty of people find homosexuality "disgusting" as well. Does this mean we should ban homosexual sex? Why is it any different with sex between children and adults?




svarog123, /r/TumblrInAction 8 Comments [11/17/2017 3:54:47 AM]
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Quote# 134297

You have to understand, your actions, set an example to other whites. You could have had a white child, who could go on and produce another white child, and so on. If every male, divorced his non-white women, married a white women and produced children that= more whites. At current rates, the white male/females really, can't afford to be selfish and a policy of mixed-race marriages being forbidden, would help immensely.

From a Christian perspective, god hates race-mixing, multiculturalism, and diversity. It is , literally , a pagan practice of Baal worship.

ShinnSeedMode, Reddit 19 Comments [11/17/2017 4:01:15 AM]
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Quote# 134143

What's the dream Bob?.................do you believe the old and new testament authors were ball earth believers?...............your new age philosophy has only come to be believed since the 1500's

Its not what anyone in the bible believed.................that's the fact you can not argue Bob!

when you discover NASA and free Masons are not a trust worthy bunch of people you will begin to see how the wool has been pulled over your eyes...............but you have Cognitive Dissonance on the one hand you want to believe the entire bible but the world has changed what you believe and it stands in contradiction to what the bible clearly teaches.

back2bible, Carm 3 Comments [11/13/2017 4:35:35 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 108537

I agree. The next great awakening won't be a repentance that results in a return to moral sanity. The next great awakening will be one of terror as God brings deserved judgment down on America. The progressive new world order will be an awakening, but not the one they envisioned.

Jack Dillon, BarbWire 15 Comments [5/13/2015 3:06:29 AM]
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Submitted By: AJ Williams

Quote# 93000

If religion was not real then why would people insist on atheism? I do not want to stereotype but most athiests i have met were gays. Yet they fail to notice that when they engage in sexual activity that goes against procreation they take part in a ritual that worships baal peor. Their flag has a relative symbol of that on the belly of baphomet (where a woman bears her child) thus being against procreation. If symbolism did not have such a powerful influence, would it be ok for your children to attend a kindergarten with nazi symbols all over the walls?

There are many people in this world who go about their day everyday without acknowledging their spirituality. Alot of people in this world are comfortable with this, some have never acknowledged measurement of themselves physically, emotionally, and in this case spiritually.

I have tested god in many ways, many sinful ways, when 'coincidences' happen too often i believe it is a miracle or the work of a spiritual being (oohh weee ooohh) My head was 10cm away from being crushed by a SUV type porsche while crossing great south road i tripped over. I have never believed in luck and i believe just as there is a god there is the devil or people involved in the devils work.

Erana Monica, topix New Zealand 110 Comments [3/6/2013 6:05:14 PM]
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Submitted By: Hasan Prishtina

Quote# 134220

The chorus of national Republican leaders speaking out against Alabama GOP nominee Roy Moore after allegations of sexual misconduct grew louder Tuesday, with House Speaker Paul D. Ryan joining the effort to oust him from the Senate race and Attorney General Jeff Sessions voicing confidence in Moore’s accusers.

[...]

Neither Corfman nor any of the other women sought out The Post. While reporting a story in Alabama about supporters of Moore’s Senate campaign, a Post reporter heard that Moore allegedly had sought relationships with teenage girls. Over the ensuing three weeks, two Post reporters contacted and interviewed the four women. Nelson made her allegations against Moore after the Post article was published.

On Tuesday night, a defiant Moore spoke in Jackson, a small city in rural south Alabama, before a supportive church audience. The attacks he’d faced — “28 days before an election,” he added — came from a political establishment that was out to get him.

“Obviously I’ve made a few people mad,” said Moore. “I’m the only one who can unite Democrats and Republicans, because I’m opposed by both. They’ve done everything they could, and now they are together to try to keep me from going to Washington.”

Moore, who told his audience that he did not prepare a speech, veered from outrage at the coverage of his personal life to allegories and Bible quotes. He described a country in spiritual decline, said that the government “started creating new rights in 1965,” and accused both the media and his accusers of “harassing” him.

At one point, Moore suggested that he might lose the election. “I want to take the truth of God to Washington,” he said. “If it’s not God’s will, then I pray I don’t be put in that position, if that’s what he wants.”

Roy Moore, Washington Post 4 Comments [11/17/2017 2:47:19 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 134313

Actually, we do. I have studied Walter’s position on this topic and I know that he is not in favor of anyone going through transition. Quite the opposite, in fact.

He means that we need better information about the topic of regret. In fact he wants more discussion than that. We need to blow up the myth that “transition” is possible. As long as the “trans” lobby is allowed to control discussion, they will continue to spread lies and recruit new mentally ill victims.

There is no such thing as sex change.

mom of young patriots, Free Republic 5 Comments [11/17/2017 4:09:24 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 130365

I'd happily force-feed a vegan steak, even force them to skin a baby rabbit alive at gunpoint if I had a gun, to toughen them up.

Randomosaur, FSTDT 44 Comments [8/10/2017 3:23:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 134235

Matt Drudge is gayer than a French trombone. I'm sure that he has participated in many a practice that would make decent people squirm with revulsion. He has no evidence against Judge Moore, merely unsubstantiated allegations and smears. I suspect gay boy Matt Drudge is having a tantrum because Moore won't sanction Matt's ungodly debauched lifestyle.

Governor Dinwiddie, Free Republic 12 Comments [11/17/2017 2:59:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134228

Multiple millions of people may embrace the same sex marriage lie but the Almighty is not impressed and has the lasting say on the matter.

tflabo, Free Republic 12 Comments [11/17/2017 2:52:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134262

Re: Kenya blames gays for gay animals

actually I didn't read the article but it is very plausible.

gay people invite demonic influence if not outright possession.

gayness goes against nature

lions in the wild would have no reason to be gay except by perhaps demonic influence

the gays may have invited over some demons which may have then caused the lions to behave against nature.

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also, now that i briefly looked over the article,

the kenyan officials may actually be accurate

behavioral activities are often mimicked by animals

lions in a zoo see humans so much that it is certainly plausible that they are influenced behaviorally

the presense of gays may have introduced, psychologically, unnatural behavioral traits, especially if the gays actually performed gay activities in view of the lions

whiteuser1, Stormfront 20 Comments [11/16/2017 6:54:20 AM]
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Quote# 134291

I do agree with the assertion that simply having pedophilic thoughts should not exclude an otherwise fitting candidate from a position in which they would regularly interact with children. Should we also not allow male nurses to perform procedures on women near their age? Are we seriously to be policing thoughts?
But stating that pedophiles somehow have a natural proclivity to teach kids is just...creepy.
Also, there's a significant difference between a pedophile teaching a a male nurse taking care of women.
In the case of the male nurse, presuming that he likes adults, will be able to have access to ample women outside his job who are completely valid candidates for his affections and interests.
A pedophile doesn't really have a healthy outlet for sexuality. Even watching erotica with kids is...not okay. This person would literally be sitting around kids all day with pent-up sexual frustration. The nurse...not so much. That still doesn't mean that the pedophile would turn abuser, but the temptation and opportunity is simply much higher.
Obviously you can't police thoughts, but I'd certainly wouldn't advise a pedophile to work n a primary school



I'm just saying that people shouldn't be denied a job because of their thoughts. You could very well teach teenagers or adults instead of children, but many teachers are good teachers because their styles work well with their students. A great elementary school teacher may not be a university professor.

I disagree, it's like keeping a loaded gun in a house with children. The consequences of something going wrong are so horrific, it outweighs any benefit of having a good teacher who keeps their hands to themselves. In any case, why would someone's pedophilic thoughts be known to anyone unless that person already got caught doing something inappropriate?



The concept is a hypothetical but perhaps they'd confided in someone they trusted, and I disagree, I think that the benefit of good teachers outweighs the risk.

yummyfish, /r/TumblrInAction 2 Comments [11/17/2017 3:51:09 AM]
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Quote# 134261

( The emphasis are mines)

Disaster Averted
On our way camping, we came upon a long and steep decline going into the valley. It was very windy, and blew against the car and tent trailer, and along with the high speed of sixty five miles an hour, we started to fish tail and lost control of the car.

It felt like we increased our speed to much more than the limit, as my husband frantically tried to apply the brakes without locking them up.

There were cars in front of us and behind us; thankfully there were no cars beside us, and those behind us could clearly see our trouble, so they hung back, watching.

We came so close to the car in front of us, so very close. I thought for sure we had touched their bumper.

I asked my husband if he was o.k., and when my usually staid and calm husband admitted to me “I don’t know,” I felt panic hit me hard in the chest. My heart skipped a beat and I stopped breathing.

I knew it was time to pray and pray hard, but for the life of me, I could pull no scriptures to mind. The demon of panic controlled me.

So I started speaking in tongues.

I couldn’t watch anymore, so I closed my eyes, but right before I did, I caught sight of one of the four angels that guard the corners of our vehicles. It was looking at me with such peace and calmness, and I knew it was saying to me, “Come on ma petite! You know He’s got this too!”, taking me to task for letting that panic demon hit me so hard, and for that pause in my faith in Christ.

I kept speaking in tongues as I clung to the sides of my seat.

Finally, it seemed so very long, the fishtailing stopped and my husband had control of the car. I opened my eyes to look at my husband. His color was returning to his face (it had gone quite pale before,) and his grip on the wheel had returned to normal.

Disaster averted.

Thank You Jesus Christ of Nazareth!

*

“The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want…Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me…Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.”

Psalm 23:1,4,6 (KJV)

Dreams of Dunamis, Dreams of Dunamis 10 Comments [11/17/2017 3:00:58 AM]
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Submitted By: FSM

Quote# 134298

Citizen:
.....you clowns don't make it very easy to like you. Some still want to re-litigate the US Civil War. Get a life that matters!

Lady Checkmate:
It's the alt-left that wants to re-litigate civil rights. They want to cover life style choices and are requesting that civil rights be eliminated if they're choices aren't covered. So, it seems your offense is misdirected...it's the alt-left attacking us marginalized minorities.
*My life matters to God :)

Citizen:
.....how about you be you and let them be them? We'll just keep it simple.

Lady Checkmate:
Who asked "them" not to be "them"? I haven't put demands on anyone regarding their life style choices.
My point was, you accused the wrong people of wanting to re-litigate civil rights (and actually some of them may want to as well), but those making that specific demand are those wanting to be covered by the right as well-as mentioned in the comment above. Please think on that sir and let me know how it feels to be manipulated and have our ancestor's experiences pimped and manipulated by very selfish people pushing a very specific agenda that also targets, harasses and persecutes Christians. Not cool, right.

Citizen:
.....lol, do they want my guns ???

Lady Checkmate:
Last I heard, the alt-left wants to take everyone's guns...brush up on whose for the second amendment...we conservatives support gun ownership. The folks you're defending want to take your guns sir, not us. Again, you chose the wrong team...they want to take everything they can from us, including our rights, js.

Citizen:
.....and you're talking about the current administration, RIGHT ???

Lady Checkmate:
Citizen, I don't know if I should pity you or block you. It's sad.
One more time (respectfully):

1. Trump is for the second amendment. The alt-left is NOT.
2. Trump is for freedom of speech. The alt-left is NOT.
3. Trump is for putting Americans first. The alt-left is NOT.
4. Trump is for religious rights.The alt-left is NOT.
5. Trump is for returning jobs to the American people, i.e., lowering the unemployment rate. The alt-left is NOT.

If you can't follow that, I wish you well Citizen, but I think you're doing that on purpose...I won't respond to nor release further trolling and pretending that you don't understand straight forward comments.

Good luck with that btw.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 10 Comments [11/17/2017 8:01:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134226

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Roy Moore urges US to 'come back to God,' dismisses sex assault allegations"

Brethren, please continue to pray for Judge Moore. The alt-left is attempting to tarnish his name, but God is faithful. One of their go-to tactics to take down conservative Christians is to deceive, manipulate, create chaos where there is none and flat-out lie. They have no integrity. In fact, I too have been accused of rape by Peewee a pathetic, alt-left 'online' troll. Note: I've never met the guy before. Yes, lol, a lost young man accused me of "raping him":

(repost of the 4-month old "Censorship is rape and you Lady Checkmate are a rapist" quote-picture)

The unethical and mentally unstable alt-left do crazy things that doesn't make sense to sane people, like accusing a Christian conservative they've NEVER met of raping them because they can't accept disagreement.

(cut-and-paste of Fox News story originally posted here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/14/roy-moore-urges-us-to-come-back-to-god-downplays-sex-assault-allegations.html)

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified. Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - Faith & Religion 8 Comments [11/17/2017 2:52:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134295

I... actually agree with this. I personally do not stigmatize pedophilic feelings granted that these feelings are kept to oneself and never acted upon. It's not far fetched to conceive of a situation in which someone who sees children sexually would work a job in which they interacted with them regularly and yet was otherwise a perfectly normal person and upstanding worker. I see it no differently from a nurse taking care of a patient they find attractive. So long as no one is diddling kids then let people work where they want to work, are we the god damn thought police now?

If you know that you are a pedophile, the responsible thing to do is not to deliberately put yourself into a position where you are required to be in close contact with children. That's just common sense.
I'm sure there are people who do it, who have these feelings and work with kids. And I am sure that there are plenty of them that never act on their feelings. Fine. I don't like it, but neither can I really prevent it.
But if you go on to the internet and announce that you are a pedophile AND that you believe you should be working with children, people are going to think you are an irresponsible creep. That's not thought policing. That's reality.
If my alcoholic cousin came to me and said they thought it would be a grand idea to start working as a bartender, I'd suggest they reconsider. That's not thought policing. It's saying, "Hey, you have a temptation that most people don't and that could cause some real damage to the people around you if you give in to, so maybe you should try a job where you aren't constantly surrounded by the one thing that you want but cannot have."
Just because you CAN do something doesn't mean you should.



As I've said before, I'm arguing from the position that the pedophile in question is otherwise a perfect teacher who has had their heart set on being one forever. Of course, if you knew them and you knew their temptation you'd talk to them about it, but if they were dead set on it would you truly tell them to just give up on their dream? Also, your analogy isn't too good, drinking alcohol is not illegal, and an alcoholic has already indulged in their temptation enough for it to be a legitimate problem, the pedophile in question has never acted on their lust and in all likelihood never will.




the (adult) patient can tell the nurse to fuck off / press charges / get a restrainin gorder / clock him/her in the face, your choice. children are defenceless.


But they are both exposed to similar temptation, and in the case of both being professionals who are serious about their job, neither would give in.

it doesn't matter: the other party is too vulnerable, the risk is unjustifiable.
it's like saying "I am a very careful smoker, I will make sure my sigarette doesn't drop and make your gas station blow up." You are not allowed to light up, period.
just NO.


Your analogy fails, a smoker already smokes and does so regularly, the pedophile I am discussing has never acted on their lust and likely will never act upon it. It's a thought, not an action.
So you believe we should be policing thoughts? Telling people what they can and cannot do based upon their feelings? Should other professions start doing this too? Should a Nurse in a Convalescent Home be fired for thinking about how much they hate their job?

the disbalance of power (lack of ability to protect him/herself) for a child is so great, you are practically placing him/her totally at mercy of the person who may or may not act upon their feelings. Nope, nope, nope.


ays me, this is the point I am arguing from, if you don't like it then you can stop responding. I described the pedophile in question from the very beginning as someone who has never acted upon their feelings and in all likelihood never would.
You didn't answer my question. Do we start thought-policing people?

When it comes to the vulnerability of a child over an adult's desire to have a specific job, yes.


If you really believe that anyone has the right to control the mind of others for any reason then we've nothing to talk about.



Believe me, I don't condone pedophilia and I'm not trying to protect molesters who would take advantage of children. I just see a group of people who may have legitimate psychological problems they may need help to get over being stigmatized so heavily that they can't find that help and it makes me sympathize with their situation.



yummyfish, /r/TumblrInAction 4 Comments [11/17/2017 3:59:44 AM]
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Quote# 134221

(commmenting on story "Shooting near California elementary school leaves several dead, children wounded"

Only alt-left cowards attack soft targets like churches and schools.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 6 Comments [11/17/2017 2:47:37 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 134242

The time has come to release more about what the Lord has been telling me about this same sex marriage fiasco that has engulfed our nation. You might remember two weeks ago I posted a message from Dad, telling those of us who were His children to Fear Not. During the past couple of weeks we have seen more and more vicious behaviour from those who espouse free love, those who claim “love is Love”, but who show no love to those who stand true to God. It’s so sad that the alphabet people don’t get it; they don’t see what is really going on here. The enemy has blinded them and in these End Times is pulling so many away from God. We know that we are not going to win this vote, but we were never meant to, we were meant to fight the good fight, we were meant to stand up for God and His ways, we were meant to be lights shining against the darkness, but, we were not meant to win this fight.

You won’t hear this message or anything like it preached from the pulpits of the liberal churches that have twisted and altered our Fathers words. Those churches, those ministers are too busy preaching messages about social inclusion, preaching about the god they have designed not the God of the Bible. Their messages are an insult to God, they preach anything but the truth and are no longer fit to be called shepherds but are wolves among the flock. Any Pastor that preaches anything contrary to the Word of God, who teaches falsehoods and lies, who pushes a form of godliness that opposes God’s righteousness, will wish they had a millstone placed around their necks rather than face God.

So let me get to the message. Australia is a nation under God’s Wrath. Don’t look for fire and brimstone that is not what He is talking about. Just as with Israel in the past when they wanted their own way, not His, God sent His prophets and judges to try and turn them back to Him, but they would not listen. They wanted a king, God said, I am your King, but they persisted. So God said okay have it your way and gave them a king. A right mess that turned out to be. They wanted the things of the Assyrians and Babylonians, God said, they are not good things to have, I have better for you. But they persisted. So God said okay have it your way and allowed them to be conquered by their neighbours and carried off into captivity. Time and time again God has given His children what they wanted in order to draw them back to Him. They had to suffer God’s wrath in order to be His.

So it is with us as a nation, we were blessed, we were His, but we have turned our backs on His ways, on His righteousness, on His truth. We want it our way, we say either God is a big meany who spoils all our fun, or God doesn’t exist so we can do whatever we want. We covet the things of the world. We murder our children or we tell them they have no gender. We accept homosexuality and same sex marriage. We promote evil and satanic ideas as being good. We rape and pillage our country daily instead of being stewards. We don’t care about our neighbours as ourselves. Well God says, okay if that’s what you want, you’ve got it, but don’t come crying to me or blame me when it all blows up in your faces. You want it, you got it.

When God judges the five cities around Sodom, He would have spared them if he had found as few as ten righteous people, that is not going to happen this time. Just as God told the prophet Jeremiah not to pray for the nation because He had delivered them up for judgement, so He tells us the same thing. They had hardened their necks towards God and now He would harden their hearts. Pray for your family and friends, that they may come to know the Father. Pray for the timing of God’s wrath to be short. Pray that those who are wavering would be strengthened. Pray for your brothers and sisters that they will find courage to speak for God during this time. But don’t pray for the nation, we need this time just as a disobedient child needs chastisement.

The signs of the coming return of the Lord are growing by the day. Whilst it is true that there are still a few major signs left to be fulfilled, we must remain as alert as the watchmen on the tower and declare them to the world as they occur. The next few years are going to be interesting to say the least. As we watch them unfold we need not fear as we stand firm in the Fathers Love. Declare to the world you are His unflinchingly and rely on the Holy Spirit to guide your words and deeds. Not a Slave, Not a Servant, but a Son.

Richard Betteridge, Facebook 9 Comments [11/15/2017 11:05:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134285

You’re a pedophile. Working with kids. Thats “inappropriate contact”.
Also i find it very hard to belive you dont work with them to hurt them because YOU’RE A PEDOPHILE


It’s really not, but okay, whatever.
So because I’m a paedophile I must be a liar? Don’t you think it’s possible that someone who, by definition, loves children might want what’s best for them and might want to work to give them a good childhood. You seem to be stuck on the idea that paedophiles want to harm kids, which is complete rubbish. I’ve got no desire to harm kids, I just want to protect them and make sure tey can be safe and happy.

You just admited to being *sexually* attracted to them lol. Likeing to work with kids is one thing, wanting to fuck them is another.
And if you want to protect them then you can make an active effort to not purposefully engage yourself with them and encourage other “non offending pedophiles” to do the same.


Yep, I never denied that fact lol
I like to work with kids and I also happen to be sexually and romantically attracted to them. The two don’t influence eachother, I’d work with kids even if I wasn’t a paedophile.
You’re implying that anti contact MAPs are dangerous when the reality is they are no more dangerous than teleiophiles.
Source: guesswholovesnomaps minor attracted person minor attracted people nomap pedophile pedophilia

dean-the-map, tumblr 2 Comments [11/17/2017 3:31:17 AM]
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Quote# 134246

Ah, yes. Muslim virtues and inalienable rights. I’m not surprised at any grotesque crime perpetrated by muslims. I can read, and understand the meaning of the words without distortion. The quran is unambiguous. Islam is a morally repugnant ‘faith’, over and out. I am never surprised at the monstrous cupidity of of the political caste; it has been plain that these cavemen will gleefully napalm children and gnaw on the bones for a disturbingly small amount of cash.

I am shocked and outraged at the criminal stupidity of the citizens who enable these people. Where are the rioting lynch mobs? When are the morons going to realize that it does not matter which of the two officially state approved political constructs you’re allowed to vote for sits in office? Left or Right, it’s the same orgy of crapulence, the same jackboot on your throat. There is no functional difference, you are voting for self serving, career hacks with no morals, no principles and no loyalty except to the sack of money they hide in an off shore tax haven.

At the end of the day, the muslims, politician caste and their gestapo’s are severely out numbered by the citizen. Voting does not change anything. In the final calculus, talking and voting never fixes anything when civil society has devolved into an elitist plutocracy where every single office seeking flack is indistinguishable from the most disgusting totalitarian dictator.

Germans, your dear chancellor is conspiring with the unelected EU dictators to form a ‘Euro SS’, a standing military force that is incapable of ‘defending’ Europe, but quite able to ‘maintain’ and ‘impose’ the will of the elite on their serfs. She has placed a former Stasi goon in charge of her gestapo, wake up! English, your PM is doing every thing she can to short out Brexit, and is poised to cede control of your military and nuclear deterrence forces to EU control. Frenchmen, grow a pair! Macron is right in there with Tsoros and Merkle, gnawing on the bones of liberty. Canadians deserve what they’ve got, a marxist dictatorial bureaucratic state controlled by faceless appointee’s and policemen.

Americans, you elected an extraordinarily wealthy hereditary elitist who makes his living on the status quo. Have you not noticed that, where it really matters, the white house is spouting the democratic and globalist party line? Noticed all the Clinton and Obama cronies still have their jobs and authority? If you would have any future that includes freedom from tyranny and a shred of human dignity, you will have to fight, as our fathers fought against the fall of night, time after time. You must fight. The alternative is enslavement, and extinction. These are the wages of complacency and stupidity. You do not get a choice, any more. The pigs are dug in too deeply, and we are out of time. This is the reality. Make your decision.

liberalassistance, Bare Naked Islam 7 Comments [11/15/2017 11:06:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134225

Andrew Anglin, hounded and hunted man and proprietor esq. of the The Daily Stormer, the world’s foremost censored and suppressed pro-White website, is featured in an Atlantic article titled “The Making of an American Patriot“.

An excerpt reveals that Anglin is a member of the Thot Police, a ZFG Guardian of Ground Floor Girls, and Destroyer of Friendzones.



Classic case of a regret rape cheating ho who wanted her boyfriend to validate her desired victimhood and excuse her sluttery, which Anglin sniffed out and smartly called out. My bet is he saved himself a lot of heartache down the road.

(For those new to this crimson-hued degree of realtalk, girlfriends don’t roll solo to parties and get black-out drunk unless they are entertaining notions of cheating. Last I checked, women still have moral agency and a primordial sense of personal responsibility.)



Anglin confirmed for harem whip hand. Game recognized.



CLEANSED OF SOY
ANGLIN ASPIRED
TO BE A BAD GOY
“CLEANSE IT WITH FIRE”

The Atlantic article went to great lengths to exaggerate Anglin into a national security risk, the bastard child of Putin and Lucifer. Clearly the author, Luke O’Brien, is unfamiliar with how girls normally react to rule-breaker badboys with crazy adventurous life stories taking on the entire Globohomo establishment.



Too bad I couldn’t verify a photo of Luke O’Brien to confirm my hunch about his physiognomy.

CH, Chateau Heartiste 8 Comments [11/17/2017 2:50:55 AM]
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