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Quote# 142851

Bryan Fischer has used his perch at the American Family Association to virulently attack Islam and its adherents for years, so it was only natural that he used his “Focal Point” radio program today to weigh in on the massacre of dozens of Muslim worshippers in New Zealand, saying that while he doesn’t support the manner in which it was carried out, he does sympathize with the underlying objective.

“I hate Islam,” he said. “I hate Islam because it is a danger to everything that is important to me: My faith, my country, my liberty, Christianity, civil rights. Everything that you and I treasure is threatened by Islam.”

Fischer said that ruthlessly murdering Muslims “is the wrong way to go about it,” but added that the shooter was “correct only in that Islam is something that does need to be stopped.”

Fischer declared that those responsible for the attack should be tried and publicly executed, but noted that “vigilante justice” like this is almost inevitable because governments are not taking adequate steps to eliminate the threat posed by Islam.

“One of the things that happens to guys like this is, if they’ve got some loose wiring to begin with and they see that their government is not doing what is necessary to protect them—whether it is from illegal aliens, whether it is from jihadis, whether it’s from vengeful Muslims—if they see that their government is not doing their jobs to promote justice, to carry out justice, to protect national security, then they’re going to start thinking, ‘Well, I can’t count on the government to do it, so I’m going to have to take things into my own hands,'” Fischer said. “That’s where you get vigilante justice … and, unfortunately, I think we saw a case of that today in New Zealand.”

Bryan Fischer, Right Wing Watch 16 Comments [3/17/2019 9:58:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Kuyohashi

Quote# 142869

"What about the issues in the Old Testament with families like masters sleeping with their servants and men having many wives or even the issue of “inter-family” relationships and the like? Was it a population issue? When did the law change? Why was it okay then and not now?"

Great question! The problem is, the Bible rarely makes commentary on historical events. If it did, we would see notations like “[and this was not only sinful but STUPID because God’s plan for marriage is one man, one woman for life, and bad things happen when we disobey His commandment].”

The fact that sinful, unwise behaviors are recorded (without commentary) in the Bible doesn’t mean it was OK any more than newspapers reporting on crime means they condone it. They’re both just telling you what happened.

Hope this helps!

Sue Bohlin, Probe Ministries 11 Comments [3/18/2019 10:04:07 AM]
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Quote# 142365

@BillionBisonBucks:
Yeah, that would be the 'guns-to-heads' bit I mentioned.

Also, you are incredibly uncharismatic. Do you have any followers? Do you have any plans to develop the skills and resources to attract them? Because brother, this ain't it.

It wouldn't be guns to head. What I am saying is that the members of parliament themselves will be secret agents of my society.

What will help me gain followers will be when I marry @pomme and move to England. There I can gain supporters within the United Kingdom Independence Party. And me and Pomme's children can convince their friends to join my society. I can also get Scots to join the society by promising the Scots independence when the true king is restored, because the true heir to the throne of England is not the heir to Scotland. My society can establish a youth wing similar to the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts that can teach children about the true king. While I may not see the true king restored in my lifetime, my descendants will multiply, and the society will gradually grow larger so the plan will eventually be fulfilled.

Jacob Harrison, Kiwi Farms 27 Comments [2/10/2019 11:29:48 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142880

I'll never understand how any professed man of God can use the New International Version (NIV) of the Bible, after being informed that at least two flaming homosexuals were on the Committee On Biblical Translation (CBT) who translated the NIV. Virginia Mollenkott and Martin Woudstra (chairman of the Old Testament committee) gave the apostate world the NIV perversion. These homosexuals were offended by the truth of God's Word, and so they removed the word “sodomite” completely from the Old Testament. So when you hear homosexuals and their wicked sympathizers attacking the Bible, saying that God also called eating shellfish an abomination; remember that homosexuals have completely removed the word SODOMITE from the Bible, which condemns them all to the eternal fires of Hell as Jude 1:7 warns.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 19 Comments [3/19/2019 12:50:56 PM]
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Quote# 142890

(concerning the Australian government blocking access to 4chan, 8chan, and LiveLeak after the Christchurch mosque shootings. Bolding is the submitter's)

fuck anyone who censors anything. This is a bigger terrorist attack than the actual shooting

ZP_NS, Reddit - r/worldnews 18 Comments [3/19/2019 12:51:55 PM]
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Quote# 142871

New Zealand Mosque Shooting

Speaking following reports of multiple shootings at two Mosques in New Zealand earlier today, Senator Fraser Anning has responded with strong condemnation.

'I am utterly opposed to any form of violence within our community, and I totally condemn the actions of the gunman,' he said.

'However, whilst this kind of violent vigilantism can never be justified, what it highlights is the growing fear within our community, both in Australia and New Zealand, of the increasing Muslim presence.

'As always, left-wing politicians and the media will rush to claim that the causes of today's shootings lie with gun laws or those who hold nationalist views but this is all cliched nonsense.

'The real cause of bloodshed on New Zealand streets today is the immigration program which allowed Muslim fanatics to migrate to New Zealand in the first place.

'Let us be clear, while Muslims may have been the victims today, usually they are the perpetrators. World-wide, Muslims are killing people in the name of their faith on an industrial scale.

'The entire religion of Islam is simply the violent ideology of a sixth century despot masquerading as a religious leader, which justifies endless war against anyone who opposes it and calls for the murder of unbelievers and apostates.

'The truth is that Islam is not like any other faith. It is the religious equivalent of fascism. And just because the followers of this savage belief were not the killers in this instance, does not make them blameless.

'As we read in Matthew 26:52, 'all they that take the sword, shall perish by the sword' and those who follow a violent religion that calls on them to murder us, cannot be too surprised when someone takes them at their word and responds in kind,' Senator Anning concluded.

Fraser Anning, Daily Mail 33 Comments [3/18/2019 10:04:42 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 142884

(Note:If there is an actual individual post for this, it sure isn't linked in the site)

Is Probe Ministries a Hate Group? A Response to the SPLC
Sue Bohlin

CNN recently released a map of the US showing the hate groups identified by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Probe has been on that list as an “anti-LGBT hate group” for two years. The reasons the SPLC gave a reporter for including us were patently untrue, accusing us of saying things we don’t say and don’t believe. It is mainly my writings on LGBT issues they object to. But they wouldn’t even talk to me.

We were tagged an “anti-LGBT” hate group because we don’t agree with the LGBT agenda. We align ourselves with the Bible’s standards. We believe God designed marriage between one man and one woman, and that all sex outside of marriage violates God’s good design for human sexuality. Unfortunately, these days mere disagreement is called hate. I have repeatedly invited people to identify the hate-filled words on our website so I can change them, but no one has ever identified any. I believe that is because you won’t find words of hate on our website or in any of our recorded messages.

I’m the primary writer and speaker about homosexuality and gender issues for Probe. It might be helpful for you to know that for 18 years I have also served with Living Hope Ministries, which helps people deal with unwanted homosexuality, and also serves the family members of those who have chosen to embrace a gay identity. I have walked with a lot of women as they process the reasons for their attractions and experience a shift in their beliefs and attitudes (and sometimes attractions as well, though not always). They are so very dear to me, and I love being their cheerleader and encourager.

As my pastor says, “Truth sounds like hate to those who hate the truth.” There are so many cultural lies about God’s design for sex and identity that when we proclaim God’s truth in a culture that embraces lies, we get called hateful and discriminatory.

Probe is all about helping people think biblically about a wide range of topics. We offer biblical truth — even when it’s unpopular.

We are grateful for how your support of Probe allows us to continue to proclaim God’s truth about gender, marriage and
sexuality in an increasingly dark and hostile world.

So no, we’re not a hate group. We’re a truth group, seeking to speak the truth in love. And truth haters are gonna hate.

[Editor’s note: Just this month the Department of Defense dropped citations to the SPLC’s hate group listings in its training manual — a big win!]

Sue Bohlin, Probe Ministries 10 Comments [3/19/2019 12:51:14 PM]
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Quote# 142877

Amos's headline: "THE PLOT THICKENS: SPLC’s Founder Was Fired Amid Employee Accusations Of Racism, Sexism"

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44717/plot-thickens-splcs-founder-was-fired-amid-ashe-schow

Lady Checkmate:


(image shows Southern Poverty Law Center logo with the words ANTI-CHRISTIAN superimposed over top)

Lady Checkmate:
If they weren't so Christophobic, I could tolerate them, but their hate for God and Bible-believing Christians is too much to bear.

bill 61:


(image says Southern Poverty Law Center A True "Hate Group")


Amos Moses, Disqus - News Network 17 Comments [3/18/2019 10:09:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142846

The Differences Between Heterosexual and Homosexual Relationships

Sometimes you hear gays or lesbians say, “We’re just like anybody else. We have two kids, a dog, a mortgage, and we worry about the economy. We just don’t want anybody telling us who we can love.” My friend Brady, who used to be part of that gay sub-culture, calls the homosexual lifestyle “a façade of normalcy.” And it is only a façade.

Consider the huge variance in the stability of relationships. Despite a high divorce rate, 57% of heterosexual marriages last over twenty years.{5} The average length of homosexual relationships is two to three years.{6} Only 5% of them last 20 years.{7}

And consider the issue of promiscuity. In heterosexual marriages, over three-fourths of the men and 88% of the women remain faithful to their marriage vows.{8} Most sexually active gay men are promiscuous, engaging hundreds of sexual partners over a lifetime.{9}

The concept of a committed relationship is very different for the two groups. Most heterosexual couples are faithful and stable. When homosexual men are in what they call a “committed” relationship, this usually includes three to five outside partners each year.{10} Rev. Troy Perry, founder of the Metropolitan Community Church, told the Dallas Morning News, “Monogamy is not a word the gay community uses. . . . We talk about fidelity. That means you live in a loving, caring, honest relationship with your partner. Because we can’t marry, we have people with widely varying opinions as to what that means. Some would say that committed couples could have multiple sexual partners as long as there’s no deception. Each couple has to decide.”{11}

In Holland, which legalized gay marriage in 2001, the average is eight outside partners.{12} One study of gay men who had been together for over five years could not find one single monogamous relationship.{13} Not one!

Women in lesbian relationships often stay together not because they want to, but because they’re stuck financially and emotionally. “I heard one speaker say at a Love Won Out conference, “We don’t have partners, we have prisoners.” Of course, that’s not universally true, but over the years of walking toward Jesus with women who were no longer in lesbian partnerships, I have heard over and over, “We didn’t know how to do life apart from each other.”

Heterosexuals live longer, happier lives. Sexually active homosexual men live a dangerous and destructive lifestyle. They are at huge risk for contracting AIDS, and run a much higher risk of sexually transmitted diseases than straight men. The gay community experiences three times more alcoholism and drug abuse,{14} and much more promiscuity and domestic violence than the straight world.{15} Gay men can expect to live twenty years less than their straight neighbors.{16}

And finally, a home with a mom and a dad is the best possible place for children. Homosexual parents put kids at risk. The American College of Pediatrics discovered that children raised by gay parents tend to be more dissatisfied with their own gender, suffer a greater rate of molestation in the family, have homosexual experiences more often, and are encouraged to experiment in dangerous, destructive lifestyle choices.{17}

Please hear me: We’re commenting on the extremely high-risk behavior that is part and parcel of a homosexual lifestyle. That’s not the same thing as condemning the people who engage in it. A homosexual lifestyle is a façade of normalcy, but it can be changed.


Answering Arguments for Same Sex Marriage

Let’s look at several arguments being offered for same sex marriage.

The first is that marriage will encourage faithfulness and stability in volatile homosexual relationships. But the nature of homosexual and lesbian relationships is broken to begin with. Two broken people will not create a whole, healthy relationship. The best description I’ve ever heard of same sex relationships is “one broken little boy looking for his daddy, connecting with another broken little boy, looking for his daddy.” And the same is true of women. Neither a marriage license, nor the approval of society, can fix the nature of a relationship that is irretrievably broken at its core.

Another argument is that we need same sex marriage to insure hospital visitation. But it’s the patient who decides. If he appoints his partner as a health-care proxy, even if he’s in a coma that document will insure access to the hospital. We don’t need marriage for that. It’s a smokescreen.

A third argument is that we need same sex marriage to insure survivorship benefits. But that’s what a will is for. You don’t need marriage for that.

Some say that we need same sex marriage for Social Security benefits. This is an interesting argument, since Social Security benefits were created to address the financial inequity of father as breadwinner and mother as stay-at-home caregiver. Homosexual relationships are usually two-incomes. It’s very rare to have one stay-at-home caregiver of the kids, since homosexual relationships do not and cannot produce children naturally. When they do, they are borrowing from God’s plan for creating families.

Then there’s the discrimination argument. There are really two issues that fall under this argument: denied liberties and denied benefits.

Concerning the issue of denying the liberty to marry, this argument doesn’t hold water. Any person can marry whoever he or she pleases, with certain restrictions that are true for everyone. You can’t marry a child, a close blood relative, a person who is already married, or a person of the same sex. These restrictions apply equally to everyone; there is no discrimination here. The problem is, some people don’t like the restrictions.

True discrimination functions against an unchangeable identity, such as gender or color. Homosexuality is a lifestyle, a chosen behavior. Even sexual orientation is changeable. It’s not easy, but it is possible.

The other issue of discrimination is denied benefits. But benefits are granted to families because society has an interest in providing a safe place for children to grow up and be nurtured. So the government provides child-oriented benefits such as inheritance rights and tax relief to ease the financial burden of children. Insurance policies and Social Security benefits provide for the money gap between wage-earner and caregiver. These benefits are inherent to families. The essence of marriage is about building families. Homosexual relationships cannot build families legitimately. They have to borrow from heterosexual relationships or technology to create children.

Sue Bohlin, Probe 13 Comments [3/17/2019 9:42:35 AM]
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Quote# 142856

Chechnya verdict could mark new purge of human rights activists

Lawyers and colleagues say case against Oyub Titiev was fabricated to punish him for his work

A court in Chechnya will deliver a verdict in the trial of a prominent human rights worker on Monday that could mark a new purge of activists from the Russian republic.

Oyub Titiev, the local head of the human rights organisation Memorial, has been accused of marijuana possession, as part of a case that his lawyers say was fabricated to punish him for his work documenting human rights abuses. The prosecution has asked for a sentence of four years in prison.

The case may also mark a new stage in the region’s crackdown on dissent. Chechnya’s strongman leader, Ramzan Kadyrov, has said that the government will no longer tolerate human rights activists.

“I officially declare to human rights activists: after the end of the trial, Chechnya will be forbidden territory for them, like it is for terrorists and extremists,” Kadyrov said last August in a speech to local law enforcement broadcast on local television.

Western countries applied sanctions against Kadyrov following revelations about the secret arrest and torture of dozens of gay people in Chechnya in 2017. Three people were reported to have died in the pogrom. Kadyrov framed action against human rights groups as a tit-for-tat move.

“Since I can’t go to Europe and the west, I say: their employees, the ones who call themselves human rights activists, will not have the right to travel in my territory,” he said.

Activists should have legal protections in Chechnya but in the region Kadyrov’s word is law.

For years, Chechnya has been one of the most dangerous regions in Russia for human rights activists and journalists. Natalya Estemirova, a former head of Memorial’s Chechnya branch, was abducted in Grozny, driven out of town and shot to death in 2009. In 2016, masked attackers brutally beat eight journalists and human rights activists traveling into Chechnya, and set fire to their minibus. A week later, Igor Kalyapin, the head of the Committee to Prevent Torture, was attacked in the region’s capital.

The campaign of intimidation has continued during Titiev’s case. One lawyer fled his legal team over threats. An office space and an automobile used by colleagues have been destroyed in arson attacks.

Colleagues have said they expect Titiev to be found guilty. Oleg Orlov, a senior Memorial member, wrote that the case was “fabricated” and was “effectively of a political nature”. Rachel Denber of Human Rights Watch called the case a “show trial”.

The specific reason Titiev was arrested is unclear. Memorial has always been a target for Kadyrov’s anger. The activist had been documenting cases of secret and illegal detentions of Chechens by the security forces, although according to colleagues, not the cases involving the gay purges.

The widespread condemnation of the Chechen leader in recent years, and measures such as the closure of his Instagram account, are said to have angered Kadyrov, who has sought ways to lash out at his critics.

“Kadyrov and top leaders in Chechnya have had human rights activists and investigative journalists in their crosshairs since the anti-gay purge,” Denber said in an interview in Moscow last week.

Titiev, who has worked for Memorial for nearly two decades and lives in Chechnya, was an easy target. In his closing remarks in court last week, he said he knew he would be found guilty.

“How many human rights activists can be murdered or put behind bars?” Titiev said. “When, finally, will the authorities pay attention to this?”

Ramzan Kadyrov, The Guardian 6 Comments [3/17/2019 9:58:21 AM]
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Quote# 142878

I am God and so are you.

We are god in a certain sense, at least in comparison to normies because when you realise that morality is just a shackle we impose on our will you can pretty much do whatever you want. That guy at work who makes snide remarks about you or some foid that speaks condescendingly to you is in many ways subjected to your will, you can decide whether you kill or maim them or treat them nicely and act like a cuck, so while we can't control their actions or the consequences of your actions in almost every case you can control wether they live or die and that makes you god.

Kong Rong, incels.is 23 Comments [3/18/2019 10:09:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142863

Why Pol Pot was a Hero to Incels

Pol Pot was the best example of how to purge and repress degeneracy in the modern age post ww2, all of the party members of his Regime were literal subhumans and yet they enslaved all of the whores and starved them to death which is exactly what they fucking deserve in three years he killed 15% of his country, Foids needed permission from the state to have kids or marry and anyone who even kissed without permission would be beat to death, this is the best way to prevent degeneracy and why Pol Pot should be considered an Incel hERo

Jog Mansen, incels.is 12 Comments [3/17/2019 10:00:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 142836

Until about a century ago, Christianity was taken for granted as dominant faith and moral pole star of American life. The notion that a mother had a right to murder her child, that two men could marry, or that a boy could become a girl would've been seen as sick humor at best.

Now find me a major motion picture, best selling Big Five novel, or prime time TV show not made by people who celebrate all of the above. You'll have a hard time, as the last holdouts are rapidly being exiled from the industry.

Yet more people worship Luke Skywalker, Mario, and Thor--the comics version--than worship Jesus Christ.

[...]

We can't hope to deprogram the pop cultists unless we've got something better to offer them.

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Brian Niemeier, Kairos 21 Comments [3/17/2019 9:37:02 AM]
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Quote# 142824

Today's Laugh 3-15-19

It's the climactic boss fight of the Swamp Wars video game. You've waded through hordes of terrorists swarming across the wide-open border; defeated the demonic Moscow Media; now it's on to the lair of the Illuminati Vulture Lord! It won't be easy, because he has the traitorous Deep State at his command.



(Picture shows Brennan, Ocasio-Cortez, Schumer, and Pelosi in a swamp. Brennan has "666" on his forehead. It is a video game sequence and a child playing the game is saying "This guy keeps summoning all these freaks to protect him." A white-haired man is in the sky above them rendered as a bat, laughing. Likely this man's identity is key to the "comic" but I have no idea who he is supposed to be. Possibly George Soros. Someone here will know.)

Mick Williams:
Tribulation bait, every one of them.

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 9 Comments [3/16/2019 5:59:43 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 142875

Alt-Left Memes & Gifs



The alt-left defined:
http://time.com/4919011/donald-trump-alt-left-antifa/

Lady Checkmate:
The alt-left is the biggest "hypocritical" hate group in the USA.

The alt-left's hate love and tolerance?

(Image shows caption "To the Alt Left, this is called love and tolerance" and picture of bleeding man on ground with "Make America Great Again" shirt being beaten by three men with signs which say "Tolerance", "Stop Hate" and "Love Trumps Hate")


(Image shows caption "This is what the left has become" and shows man clad in black (as a ninja) with a can of mace at his side holding a sign that says "hate free zone" beating a man with a gaping head wound and a "free speech" T-shirt - in the background is a raging fire where you can make out the words "Milo" and "Kill Trump" in the wreckage)


(Image shows bully holding up small man and about to punch him - large man is saying "Look buddy either you agree with me or else", caption reads "The Marketplace of Ideas")

Oxford Martyrs:

(Image shows two columns, one on the left saying alt-left, one on the right saying ISIS. Caption reads "starting to see a pattern here". Pictures in left column: men in black throwing rocks, Kathy Griffin holding a bloody Trump head, and a third undecipherable picture, pictures in right column (comparing the ones beside them): man in black hood brandishing knife, terrorist holding two decapitated heads, men with axes and hoods attacking a figure on the ground)

RightInGrey:
The dems and the liberals.........

All they have, is drama for cameras.
Their narrative seems crafted by an army of soccer moms, for soccer moms, and their wimpy children and cuckold husbands or the like.

Lady Checkmate:
It seems doubtful that soccer moms are promoting child-rape, legalizing pedophilia and beating the heck out of conservatives for standing against those things. Here is a picture of a few of the alt-left gang jumping, actually assaulting, a conservative in Berkeley...if they're "soccer moms", then their looks are truly deceiving:

(picture shows man being beaten, women in foreground watches)

But, RightInGrey), you make a good point. The alt-left frequently attempts to appeal to "soccer moms" for undeserved sympathy, financial and political support. The alt-left does not care for them or women in general, they only want to manipulate women to further their wicked agenda. Only silly women would support their foolishness.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 14 Comments [3/18/2019 10:06:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 117954

The Refiner's Fire Response:

Read in context, you would see that God gave Pharoah NINE CHANCES to comply with His wishes to "let His people (the Israelites) go". NINE plagues to give Pharaoh a chance to see exactly WHO was in charge! Let's take a look what these "chances" were:

First Plague: The Nile waters Turn to Blood

The Nile, the river of Egypt, was the Egyptians' idol. The Nile's waters nourished the land and determined the welfare of all the people. The Egyptians thirsted after blood when they slaughtered the Hebrews' children, and now God gave them blood to drink. Now the source that brought the Egyptians life brought death instead (Exod. 7:14-25).

Second Plague: The frogs

The frogs represented the Egyptian fertility goddess, Isis, that was supposed to help women in childbirth. Frogs were everywhere: in their houses, in their beds, and at their tables. They could not eat, drink, or sleep without their precious god. The frog that symbolized life was left to be raked in heaps of rotting piles of death (Exod. 8:1-15).

Third Plague: The Lice

The lice which came up to live out of the dust of the earth represented the Egyptians' god of the earth, Seth. Matthew Henry notes that lice were small despicable, inconsiderable animals, and yet, by their vast numbers, they rendered a sore plague to the Egyptians. God could have plagued them with lions, or bears, or wolves, or with vultures or other birds of prey; but He chose to do it by these contemptible instruments (Exod. 8:16-19).

Fourth Plague: The Flies

The stinging, disease-carrying flies ruined the land. Beelzebub, the prince of the power of the air, has been glorified as the god of flies, the god of Ekron. The fly was always present at idolatry sacrifices. It seems that the god partook of those in this manner. This fourth plague came upon the Egyptians only. It made Israel a separate and Holy People (Exod. 8:20-32).

Fifth Plague: The Disease of Livestock

A great number of cattle died by a sort of pestilence. The Egyptians made the Hebrews poor and so God caused great loss to the Egyptians. This disease afflicted only the Egyptian livestock. The Egyptians believed animals were possessed by the spirits of gods. The bull was sacred in Egypt, identified in it markings to their god Apis. This pestilence, God's Word tells us, did not affect the Hebrew livestock (Exod. 9:1-7).

Sixth Plague: The Boils

Again God demonstrated His ability to control nature. When the death of their cattle didn't convince the Egyptians, God sent a plague that seized their own bodies. And they took ashes of the furnace, and stood before Pharaoh; and Moses sprinkled it up toward heaven; and it became a boil breaking forth with blains upon man, and upon beast (Exod. 9:10). Sores in the body were looked upon as punishment for sin, a means by which to call one to repentance. None of the Hebrews had any boils. This plague was a direct attack on the shamanism of the medico-mystical processes in Egypt (Exod. 9:8-12).

Seventh Plague: The Hailstorm

Moses gave the people a one-day warning before this plague. The notice was given because the sorcerers of Egypt were also agricultural shamans who supposedly controlled the weather. Those who feared the Lord went into shelter (showing us that God had mercy on some of the Egyptians). Those who did not believe God and took no shelter died in the fields (Ex. 9:21). There was ice and fire mingled with the hail, very grievous, such as there was none like it in all of the land of Egypt. The hail killed both men and cattle, and battered down the herbs, vegetable gardens, fruit trees, and other plants. God, in His judgment, caused it to rain or hail on the Egyptians and not on the Hebrews (Exod. 9:13-35).

Eighth Plague: The locusts

By this time, Pharaoh's people, his magicians, and advisors, began to rebel. Pharaoh stood alone against God. Moses stretched forth his rod over the land of Egypt, and the LORD brought an east wind upon the land all that day, and all that night; and when it was morning, the east wind brought the locusts. And the locusts went up over all the land of Egypt, and rested in all the coasts of Egypt: very grievous were they; before them there were no such locusts as they, neither after them shall be such. The plague was then sent which devastated the land and hence the power of the gods and shamans of agriculture. Pharaoh sent for Moses and pretended to repent. He asked Moses to pray to God to take the locusts away. And the LORD turned a mighty strong west wind, which took away the locusts, and cast them into the Red Sea; there remained not one locust in all the coasts of Egypt (Exod. 10:13-14, 19).

Ninth Plague: The Darkness

The Egyptians rebelled against the light of God's Word and they were justly punished with darkness. This thick darkness was over Egypt three days, but the people of Israel had light where they dwelt. What a picture of dark and light, of being lost and saved. The children of God walked in the light while Pharaoh and his people wandered in the darkness.

This plague was an attack on the power of the supreme deity of Egypt, the sun god Re or Amun-Re. The Egyptians could do nothing but stay in their homes and consider what they had experienced up to now, regarding the power of the God of the Israelites. Even then, Pharaoh refused to yield (Exod. 10:21-29).

Tenth Plague: The Death of the Firstborn

God said in Exodus 13:2, Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.

Nelson's Illustrated Bible Dictionary explains the importance of the firstborn: God placed a special claim on the firstborn of man and beast (Ex. 13:11-13). This meant that the nation of Israel attached unusual value to the eldest son and assigned special privileges and responsibilities to him. Because of God's claim on the first offspring, the firstborn sons of the Hebrews were presented to the Lord when they were a month old. Since the firstborn was regarded as God's property, it was necessary for the father to redeem, or buy back, the child from the priest. Early Hebrew laws also provided that the firstlings of beasts belonged to the Lord and were turned over to the sanctuary (Ex. 13:2; 34:19; Lev. 27:26). The firstborn's birthright was a double portion of the estate and leadership of the family. As head of the home after his father's death, the eldest son customarily cared for his mother until her death, and provided for his unmarried sisters until their marriages. He was the family's spiritual head and served as its priest. In figurative language, the term firstborn stands for that which is most excellent.

The significance of the death of every firstborn in Egypt, from the house of Pharaoh to the slaves and the livestock, was great. But Israel would be spared so that there would be an obvious distinction between those who belong to the YAWH and those who do not (Exod. 11:1-10).


How many chances SHOULD God haven given the Egyptians? If they couldn't understand that YHWH was in charge say, by the second or third plague, then that indicates that they probably wouldn't have listened to God after the thousandth plague!

Now, let's discuss "hardening of the heart". The following is an indepth explanation borrowed, in part, from The Christian Think Tank:

The bottom line is that God KNEW that Pharoah's heart was hardened, and so He allowed a struggle to happen: During the first 5 plagues, Pharaoh hardened his own heart without any help from God (Exodus 7:13,14,22; 8:15,19,32; 9:7). Then God does it (9:12); then Pharaoh and his officials do it together (9:34-35), then God does the rest.

The point of the hardening is given the following passages to show that God CAN perform these miracles/judgments:

Exodus 10: 1 Then the LORD said to Moses, "Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the hearts of his officials so that I may perform these miraculous signs of mine among them.

Exodus 11: 10 Moses and Aaron performed all these wonders before Pharaoh, but the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart, and he would not let the Israelites go out of his country.

Exodus 14: 17 But take this staff in your hand so you can perform miraculous signs with it."

The miracles/signs/judgments themselves had an end-goal: so that the Egyptians would know that YHWH was God (and therefore come into a positive relationship with him - Exodus 14:4, 17); and so that the Israelites would know that YHWH had delivered them from their oppression with power, and was therefore a God they could depend on for their needs (Exodus 10.1), and so that the whole world would hear about God - 9:16. In other words, the end goal seems to be to wake everybody up concerning the true and living God.

From Lamentations 3 we know that God "sends hardness of heart" as a punishment: 59 You have seen, O LORD, the wrong done to me. Uphold my cause! 60 You have seen the depth of their vengeance, all their plots against me. 61 O LORD, you have heard their insults, all their plots against me- 62 what my enemies whisper and mutter against me all day long. 63 Look at them! Sitting or standing, they mock me in their songs. 64 Pay them back what they deserve, O LORD, for what their hands have done. 65 Put a veil over their hearts, and may your curse be on them! 66 Pursue them in anger and destroy them from under the heavens of the LORD.

What this means is that the judgments of God were not because of the later hardenings, but that the later hardenings were judgments themselves. (This motif also shows up in Joshua, where the kings who were being evicted from the land for atrocious crimes were "hardened" so they would fight Israel. (Jos 11:19.)

refiners fire, refiners fire 30 Comments [4/6/2016 2:40:41 AM]
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Amos's headline: "SHOCKED? 'DRAG QUEEN STORYTIME' READER ONCE CHARGED WITH CHILD SEX ASSAULT"

https://abc13.com/drag-queen-storytime-reader-once-charged-with-assault/5197176/

Amos Moses:
cuz we never told them .... NOT ..............

Lady Checkmate:
I'm not shocked. I'm heart-broken for those children. Those children are pawns in the social and political games of deviants and political opportunists. They are being taught lies and confusion and used as convenient and naive tools to promote what God calls evil...an exceedingly wicked agenda. An agenda that promotes the spirit of the anti-Christ and rebellion against the true and living God. God will deal with those who are causing (actually making) those children to sin*. My prayer is that laborers will come along and share Truth/Jesus Christ with those children early and that their hearts will be turned toward God and away from selfish, sinful idolatry and wickedness in Jesus name. He captured my heart as a child and He is the same yesterday, today and forever more. His Truth breaks through and destroys the lies of satan.

Amos Moses:
Albert Alfonso Garza, 32, was last seen reading to children at the Montrose Library in September 2018.
Montrose is the homosexual side of Houston .....

Lady Checkmate:
So, they're not running sexual-assault/pedophile background checks on those men? They're creating an environment for children to be indoctrinated and molested on the spot??

tsitala:
Question marks not needed. If I had children of school age today, which thankfully I don't, and could keep them out of public schools, it wouldn't even be a question as to whether I needed to do that or not. Immediately, and yesterday wouldn't have been soon enough.

Lady Checkmate:
I imagine a lot of people feel that way. Good parents know they need to teach their children the word God and raise them to reverence, love and obey God (not teach them about sex before they can walk or count to 10). I wish I could adopt some of the children no one wants...that's in God's hands.

Amos Moses, Disqus - News Network 16 Comments [3/17/2019 9:57:58 AM]
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Quote# 142636

(concerning a Kiwi Farms thread about a violent animal abuser who was caught sexually abusing and killing animals.)

This is really immature behavior from adults I would expect kids to be the main people bullying others but I guess it's just you guys stop acting like a 1 year old having a temper tantrum and act your age

Kero the wolf made a mistake no one's to far from redemption keep just has that interest but never acts on it so stop bullying people and leave him alone

I cant wait to see the activity on twitter and other social media when the news gets out that Kero was arrested for Zoophillia


I cant wait to see the activity on twitter and other social media when the news gets out that Kero was arrested for Zoophillia


12535, Kiwi Farms 10 Comments [3/2/2019 3:39:28 PM]
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Quote# 142864

(OP: Talks about how in awe they are of Chelsea Clinton for handling herself with class in the face of someone yelling at her, blaming her for the shooting in Christchurch, pointing out that what Rep Ilhan Omar said about Jews is dangerous, and that we need to unite to stop white supremacist terrorists)

Ilhan Omar didn’t say anything anti-semetic, she criticised an organisation that lobbies the most powerful country in the world to aid and abet a racist apartheid state in a campaign of ethnic cleansing.

Smearing her as racist for doing so makes you a piece of shit.

And when a woman who is a victim of that ethnic cleansing says she’s not comfortable with someone who supports it and led a hate mob agains a black woman for calling it out crying crocodile tears at a vigil for victims of the same racism, she’s entirely in the right.

Fuck you

volcels-of-fire, Tumblr 4 Comments [3/17/2019 10:00:17 AM]
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Quote# 14614

I am currently sitting in the Fayetteville Public Library, online, and outside my window in the other room, there is an older hippy woman, in a red hat, glasses, black, loose hippy clothes and sandals with her feet perched up on the table, I mean how rude, this is a Library. She's probbaly looking up Democrat, anti-American, and other far leftist websites, I can't see her computer screen from the angle I am sitting at. I usually don't come to this Library b/c of all the hippies and other far-leftists I see here, and the fact that I have to put up with them almost daily, but it's the only Library opened today. Just wanted to vent some frustration.

proudrepublican81, IMDb 43 Comments [9/6/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 142868

(This person is mocking critics of the metal band Arghoslent, who are talented musicians, but have lyrics glorifying slavery.)

eww....but eeewww...their lyrics aren't socially neutered and haven't been filtered thru the zionic stratagem....ewww...I cant like this band...im an indoctrinated spineless weasel millennial twerp.....

steve disgustipate, YouTube 2 Comments [3/18/2019 10:03:56 AM]
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Quote# 142837

(context: Chelsea Clinton was blamed for the attack in Christchurch)

Neo-Liberal pathology. These people will find every conceivable fault in black women, and women of color, but god forbid a rich fail daughter heiress is actually intellectually, ethically, and morally worthless. Say it with me everyone!

YOU DON’T NEED TO LICK THE BOOT OF RICH LIBERALS WHO DON’T ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT YOU!

scumbag storm trooper, Tumblr 3 Comments [3/17/2019 9:37:16 AM]
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"I am a high school student writing a paper for English over some hatred issues across America and I was wondering if you would answer some questions about marriage equality, gender issues, etc.

Why do you, personally, dislike homosexual behavior?"

For the same reason I dislike heterosexual behavior (like using pornography or unmarried or extramarital sex) that is outside of God’s plan and purpose for our bodies and souls: it is harmful to the person(s) engaging in it. Sex is so powerful, like electricity, that it needs to be contained within the safe confines of marriage between a man and a woman who have committed to each other for life. Outside of that containment, the power of sex is more like lightning, which does damage instead of being channeled into serving us.

But homosexual behavior is not just about sex. There is also a lot of emotional dependency in same-sex relationships, especially between girls and women, when their friendship has overflowed the banks of what is healthy. Emotionally dependent relationships are intense (which becomes exhausting), chaotic (which drains people further), controlling and manipulative (which is hurtful to the people and to the relationship). I dislike this behavior because it is harmful to the people engaging in it as well. I love people and hate to see them get hurt. That’s why I dislike the behavior that contributes (eventually) to heartache.

"If anyone of your family members became homosexual, how would you react?"


That already happened, when one of my relatives was seduced into lesbian relationships and started seeing herself as part of the LGBT community. I continued to love her, encourage her, delight in her . . . even though we don’t talk about her relationships or her involvement in LGBT.

I have two grown sons, though, which is the closer kind of family I think you may be thinking of. If either one of them announced they were gay, I would weep that he had been deceived by our spiritual enemy into thinking falsehoods about himself, and I would pray every day for his eyes to be open to the truth, even as I continued to love him like I do now.

"Why do you think God doesn’t love homosexual people and their behaviors?"


I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God dearly and tenderly loves those who struggle with same-sex attraction, those who have embraced a gay identity, and even those who have fully immersed themselves in the LGBT world. I’m thinking of one young man in particular who went on a two-week bender, prostituting himself for gay sex so he could buy drugs and keep himself high. I know that his decisions grieved God’s heart deeply (especially when he became HIV+ during that 2 weeks), but He never left the man or stopped loving him, and was there waiting patiently for him to come to his senses . . . which he did. And now their relationship is stronger than ever.

If God loved people, ALL people, enough to send His only Son into the world to be nailed to a cross, taking our place and paying the penalty for our sin and then raising Him from the dead, then I think He continues to love all of us in our messy, sinful rebellion. But He never endorses or accepts our sinful behavior, though He fully accepts US. Acceptance and approval of choices and behaviors are not the same.

You may have noticed I went from talking about homosexuals to US . . . because we are all in the same predicament: messy, sinful, rebellious people who desperately need God. There is no us/them differentiation—we are all alike in our need for God, and we are all alike in the fact that He loves us more than we can imagine.

"Do you believe in abortion, and why?"


I think it is a heinous thing to murder a baby, whether he or she lives inside the mother or outside the mother. Abortion is taking the life of an innocent child, and it’s wrong to murder.

"And do you consider Probe Ministries a hate group?"

Absolutely not! We were tagged a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center because we don’t agree with the LGBT agenda. We align ourselves with the Bible’s standards that all sex outside of marriage violates God’s commands for human sexuality. Unfortunately, these days mere disagreement is called hate. I have repeatedly invited people to identify the hate-filled words on our website so I can change them, but no one has ever identified any. I believe that is because you won’t find words of hate on our website, or our podcasts, or any of our recorded messages. (And I do know what hate sounds like. Westboro Baptist Church makes me sick.)

I’m the primary writer and speaker about homosexuality and gender issues for Probe. It might be helpful for you to know that for 18 years I have also served with Living Hope Ministries, which is a Christian organization that helps people deal with unwanted homosexuality, and the family members of those who have chosen to embrace a gay identity. I have known and grown to love more people than I can count, people who are my heroes as they fight their feelings and instead, pursue intimacy with Jesus Christ. I have watched so many people’s hearts change over time, and I have walked with a lot of women as they process the reasons for their attractions and experience a shift in their beliefs and attitudes (and sometimes attractions as well, though not always). They are so very dear to me, and I love being their cheerleader and encourager.

That’s the opposite of hate. That’s what love looks like, and that’s what is the foundation of everything I write and say on this issue.

It might also be helpful for you to know that I have run everything I write and say through the filter of trusted friends who were once part of the LGBT community, asking them to identify anything that is unintentionally hurtful or rude or even untrue so I can change it before it becomes public.

I’m glad you asked, and I am thankful for the opportunity to provide you with some answers.

Have a good day.

Warmly,
Mrs. Bohlin

Sue Bohlin, Probe Ministries 11 Comments [3/17/2019 9:40:52 AM]
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Quote# 119748

You cannot mix Christianity with other religions. The moment you do it's no longer Christianity.

Would you drink a tall glass of fresh cold water if someone dropped just one tiny drop of sewer water in it? What about two drops - or three?

You say no: yet that is exactly what many of you do by mixing other religions and forms of spirituality with your Christianity. You're mixing sewage with fresh water. And this is why so many of you are spiritually sick.

If you're a Christian who thinks it's okay to fornicate a little bit (or a lot) and still think you're okay in God's eyes: you're a sick Christian. If you believe it's okay to tell little lies, slander others or spread gossip about them - you're a sick Christian.

If you think it's cool to bow to Jesus and yet still practice yoga, live by horoscopes or dabble in the occult - you've been drinking cups, not just drops of sewer water! And your spirituality stinks to high heaven.

You need a spiritual detox!

God wants His children to live pure lives. He wants us to be holy like He is holy. Only then can we demonstrate to the world that our faith, our beliefs and our religion carries the power of heaven in it to transform lives and destinies here on Earth for good.

It's our difference from the world that makes what we have so unique and interesting: not our similarities with the world.

It's time for you to recalibrate! Get back onto the right frequency - the Jesus Christ frequency. Tune away from sin and tune back into holiness, without which no man can see God.

When you take God and His Son Jesus seriously, only then will God start revealing Heavens secrets to you.

I can always tell when someone who claims to be spiritually deep is a fraud. I just check their lifestyle. Because I know God never reveals His secrets to someone who is not living holy.

Let's get back on track saints. Massive awesome power awaits us the moment we begin to live out a pure expression of our Christian faith. God wants to work wonders through our lives. But He wont do it until we start living right.

Mack Major, Facebook 21 Comments [6/14/2016 2:06:32 AM]
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Quote# 142859

Ima say it say it straight up, if Chelsea Clinton had miscarried as a result of being talked to (yes talked to, that's where we're at) by rightfully angry activists, the activists would have done us a double service. Speaking truth to power and ensuring there'll be one less Harvard airbrushed prick walking on this earth.

Bananapish, Tumblr 7 Comments [3/17/2019 9:58:33 AM]
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