Quote# 48120

Impressive list, Greatwood, but I'm certainly not going to look up a copy and pasted huge bunch of links.

I will say however, it was Richard Dawkins who refused to debate certain scientists, especially A. E. Wilder-Smith. He was offered numerous times and refused to debate him. So did the others. His credentials also aren't very impressive which is why I'm sure he was afraid to debate scientists of that caliber.

[A. E. Wilder-Smith is a young earth creationist]

Zapem, WoW offtopic 43 Comments [10/3/2008 12:02:39 AM]
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Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 48635

I thank God for ya'll!! Spread the truth! I got my degree in Bio-Medical Sciences, so as you can imagine I have a lot of books with information about Biology, Microbiology, Chemistry, etc...and all of them started off discussing evolution...but not ONE of them had an actual picture for proof of evolutionary transitioning...only DRAWINGS!

Krys725, youtube 68 Comments [10/3/2008 12:26:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Geoff

Quote# 48415

You can just ignore all the evidence of an intelligent designer. Ever been on a roundabout at the children's playground? What happens it it goes fast and you don't hold on? You will fly off! The earth spins much much faster yet we don't fly into space. The intelligent designer designed gravity so we can keep our feet on the ground.

Fisherman, Yahoo Answers 46 Comments [10/3/2008 11:22:43 PM]
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Quote# 48565

I think its kinda funny when you reject the Bible because it's written by man but you embrace science so strongly even though that was all written by guess who....MAN. =P

3nlgma, Gaia Online 55 Comments [10/4/2008 11:02:54 AM]
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Submitted By: Sayna

Quote# 48551

Why do atheists hate the very idea of Heaven/Hell?


I think it's because they know if it is true
they are destined to a hell not even Wes Craven
or Steven Spielberg could fathom

Additional Details


Nope. Hell is a real place.

It's a place of punishment for your
evil ways because you don't repent.

Good luck down there!!!

~ Chelsey ~, Yahoo Answers 46 Comments [10/4/2008 12:59:44 PM]
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Submitted By: J Arcenas

Quote# 140582

Herald Newman: I don't think we need rigid definitions of "love" and "harm" in order to understand that love is generally beneficial, and harm is not.
Let's imagine two societies:
In society A, all of the members hate one another, and do not care what happens to any other member of that society. Each member lives by the philosophy "I got mine, and I'll fight you for yours." If a member runs out of food, they should have planned better, and probably starve. When a member is attacked by animals, nobody comes to their aid.
In society B, the members all are concerned about other members of the society, and actively try to protect them from the dangers of the world. Members who have no food are given some of the excess with the expectation of repaying the kindness. When a member of society is attacked by animals another member will try to help and protect them.
Now tell me. Which society do you think is more likely to survive and flourish? Which society would you rather live in? I'm going to bet that most of you would rather live in society B.
So now comes the question. Why does love and morality need an outside source?? We're an evolved social species, and our evolution has made us so that we generally want to cooperate with each other. The survival of our species depends on us caring about certain members of the tribe, and wanting to protect them. Doing so has allowed us to survive.
I still shake my head that people, let alone Christians, insist that morality needs some "outside source" is order to make sense. It doesn't! Maybe it's because we're so far removed from the days when surviving through the night meant you had to put your life into the hands of other members of the tribe.


Martin: So where is your evidence for Evolution? It's a fairy story for grown ups, nothing more.
You're morality, as you describe it, is based on selfishness, not love. You ask what is best for me, for my group.
What is missing from your understanding of life is your acceptance of what you know, that God exists. Life is only good when it is based on the respect and love for our Creator. From that we naturally have respect and love for each other. From love for God comes a desire for justice and the protection of the weak. Our society is degenerating, care for each other is evaporating, the powerful look after themselves and do not care for the weak. Love is wanting the best for a person, not seeking the survival of the species.

Harold Newman: "So where is your evidence for Evolution? It's a fairy story for grown ups, nothing more." Go take a science class, or try the Wikipedia article on "evidence of common descent" Your ignorance of evolution does not justify the belief that it's a "fairy story for grown ups."
"What is missing from your understanding of life is your acceptance of what you know, that God exists" Are you going to quote Romans 1:20 at me too?
"Life is only good when it is based on the respect and love for our Creator." Says who ???

Martin: Science will show you that here is no evidence for Evolution, only claims and assertions.
That you know your folly does not require me to provide quotes. God is quite clear, apart from God, nothing is good.


Martin, Premier 8 Comments [9/21/2018 4:48:28 PM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 48231

[On Shara Palin]

You won't be informed from mainstream parrot news sources, but the fact is Pentecostal, Charismatic Christianity is the fastest growing segment of Christianity in the World today! From the explosion of the Chinese underground church to the many documented miracles commonly taking place in African outdoor crusades, the Holy Spirit is Alive and moving in Power! Europeans are left with beautiful tombstones, er, ah cathedrals--void of true, living worshippers and the Spirit of God!

Charles, timesonline 31 Comments [10/3/2008 8:05:00 PM]
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Submitted By: worldsend

Quote# 48648

Agreed. If atheists would actually research evolution instead of accepting everything liberal media shoves down them. Any sane person would agree it's a weak theory.

[lol... apparently charles darwin was a politico for msnbc. who knew?]

buhing513, yahoo answers 35 Comments [10/4/2008 1:04:37 PM]
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Submitted By: senorchipotle

Quote# 113319

.i'm glad i don't live in Calif anymore...that's why they don't get enough rain...TOO MUCH SINNING.

Fireball, Y! answers 23 Comments [10/3/2015 1:24:35 PM]
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Quote# 71212

No. I have no reason to believe gravity as we know it existed. The forces and balance of forces may have been quite different. Ever wonder how they built the early pyramids?

No evidence exists for gravity as we know it, to have existed, why would I need to disprove it???

dad, Christian Forums 108 Comments [2/25/2010 6:12:41 PM]
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Submitted By: Roxolan

Quote# 80000

If evolution is true, you could not know that it's true because your brain is nothing but chemicals. Think about that.

Kent Hovind, kent-hovind.com 82 Comments [3/18/2011 6:48:55 PM]
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Submitted By: Honky McCracker

Quote# 69040

Some twenty years of investigating claims that the the Earth rotates on an axis and orbits the Sun, and that the universe began evolving 15 billion years ago and is 15 billion light years thick, have left me without the slightest doubt:
a) That The Earth Is Not Moving;
b) That the Bible’s repeated declarations that it is the Sun that moves and not the Earth are absolutely accurate;
c) That the Big Bang Model ruling today’s cosmology is handcuffed to the Copernican Heliocentricity Model;
d) That both of these Models are built solely on contra-scientific assumptions held together by occult mathematics and fraudulent use of computerized technology
e) That those deceptive and vulnerable assumptions now undergird the entirety of modern man’s "knowledge"
f) That both the Heliocentricity and the Big Bang Models represent the fulfillment of a "creation scenario" of Kabbalic Judaism masquerading as "science"
g) That the purpose of this hidden religious agenda has been to destroy the "creation scenario" of the Bible and thereby destroy the credibility of the rest of the Bible right on through Jesus and the New Testament....
h) That the time for all who love truth over deception to give this issue their most careful and prayerful attention is now. This is especially true for all Christians who realize that their religion stands or falls on the the restoration of the absolute credibility of the Bible. This Biblical non-moving Earth issue alone can force that restoration and expose all the lies now connected with evolution-based false science (I Tim. 6:20,21).

Marshall Hall, Fixed Earth 75 Comments [12/26/2009 5:24:53 AM]
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Quote# 90419

I am curious how evolutionism explains the Sun. There is not enough energy possible to sustain the Sun for one day let alone billions of years.

Reconstitute America, Yahoo Answers 82 Comments [11/1/2012 5:42:50 AM]
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Quote# 120686


I agree, 12 is a good age to argue for. Even though a case could be made for abolishing the age of consent altogether, most people are so deranged by anti-sex hysteria that they will never listen to it.

Eivind Berge, Eivind Berge`s blog 42 Comments [7/22/2016 3:38:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Xavier

Quote# 140547

Judge Jeanine said it Best , Democrats , They are DEMON RATS and will Stab all Americans in the BACk to Retain Power . DEMON RATS would Sell themselves to Islam’s Terrorists or to the Other Equally Evil SATAN HIMSELF. IN CANADA WE have a FECKLESS SCUMBAG called JIHADI JUSTIN TRUDEAU who is a TERRORIST LEADER coming out of the Closet .

Tim, Jihadwatch 15 Comments [9/20/2018 2:42:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 103534

The planets would go crashing into each other and gravitate into the sun if God didn't keep them in orbit.

David J. Stewart, God Loves People 45 Comments [9/19/2014 2:58:15 AM]
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Quote# 140564

Amos Moses:
you said "Truth is something that can be proven, it's not just an emphatic stating of your faith." ..... okay ..... WHERE is YOUR proof it exists .... and USE YOUR authority .... the DICTIONARY ..... to PROVE it exists ........ show me the EVIDENCE from the dictionary ........

San Geronimo:
What truth are you interested in, specifically?

Amos Moses:
PROVE love exists using the DICTIONARY only ...........

San Geronimo:
love (noun) 1. an intense feeling of deep affection. 2. a person or thing that one loves.

Amos Moses:
sure .... does not prove it exists .... FAIL .... try again ......... PROVE it EXISTS .....

San Geronimo:
With a dictionary? You still don't seem to understand the point of a dictionary. You got a definition from it. The definition is a fact.
Saying "prove love exists using only a dictionary" is like saying "prove the Easter Bunny exists using only a copy of Gone with the Wind".

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 18 Comments [9/20/2018 11:01:39 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 140536

Over the target, taking flak. It’s all good. This is a war for the soul of the country. My soul is centered on God, & wrapped in red, white, & blue.

Wingman68, Baptistboard 20 Comments [9/20/2018 9:56:06 AM]
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Submitted By: Hilda

Quote# 140518

Faith is God’s sovereign gift, and God has decided to withhold it from the non-elect, but instead he chooses to harden them; therefore, to offer salvation to the non-elect as if God desires them to be saved and as if it is possible for them to be saved would be to lie to them in God’s name. There is no offer of salvation to the non-elect, but only a command that they can never obey, and God will punish them with hellfire.

This does not prevent us from preaching the gospel to all men, since it is not our duty or right to pick out the elect and preach only to them, or to pick out the non-elect and exclude them. The point is that we must not present the gospel as a sincere offer to all, as if God’s “desire” can differ from his decree, as if God could or would decree against his “desire,”[1] and as if it is possible for even the non-elect to be saved.

God loves the elect and desires (and thus has decreed) their salvation; he hates the reprobates and desires (and thus has decreed) their damnation (Romans 9:13). The preaching of the gospel must be consistent with this. So we must present the gospel as a serious command to all, as if it is required of all to believe (Acts 17:30), and as if God intends to summon the elect and harden the non-elect by the same preaching of the gospel (2 Corinthians 2:15-16).

Thus we must preach the gospel to all men for at least three reasons: 1. God commands us to preach the gospel to all people, 2. We do not know and should not consider beforehand who are the elect and who are the reprobates, and 3. The purpose of preaching the gospel is not only to summon the elect to faith, but also to harden the reprobates in their unbelief.

Vincent Cheung, vincentcheung.com 13 Comments [9/20/2018 2:19:15 AM]
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Quote# 140519

From this biblical teaching, we can then form general interpretations of the various acts of providence, including natural and “man-made” disasters. And we have warrant from Scripture to say that when disasters like hurricanes, tsunamis, and even terrorist attacks occur, killing thousands of people, there is almost always an element of divine punishment. To speak plainly, God kills these people because they are sinners and they deserve to die, and the time is ripe to punish them. Is not this the scriptural teaching? If you reject this, you might as well stop calling yourself a Christian, for your faith rests in yourself and your own opinions, and it is evident that you have no regard for God and Scripture. Then, another intended effect of these disasters is to awaken the elect and to harden the reprobates.

The human element complicates the issue, although not for those who read and affirm Scripture, and who do not become so indignant over the teaching that they can no longer think clearly. What complicates the issue for some is that the very people that God uses to punish sinners are often just as wicked themselves. Scripture has addressed this in numerous places. When God uses the wicked to punish the guilty, he also plans to punish these instruments of his providence at a later time. In fact, God moves them to perform additional acts of wickedness in order to fulfill his own divine decree, which is to cause them to incur even greater wrath against themselves.

This had been demonstrated at various times in Israel’s history. When God’s people fell into sin and idolatry, he would send foreign nations to slaughter and enslave them. But these invaders were themselves subject to God’s wrath, and it is precisely because they slaughtered and enslaved God’s people (propelled by God’s power) that divine judgment soon visited them as well. Consider Israel at the time of Christ. The Son of God came and the Jews murdered him, and said, “Let his blood be on us and on our children!” (Matthew 27:25). God held them to their word. Within a generation, the Romans sacked and burned Jerusalem, and completely devastated it. But God saw to it that the Romans themselves were soon destroyed as well. This is the pattern of providence.

Just to mention this is considered anti-Semitic by many people, but they are hypocrites. Let the Jews first answer for the murder of Christ and the thousands of Christians who perished at the beginning of the Church, and then we can talk about anti-Semitism. The truth is that these disasters were the works of God, and to adopt the mentality that the victims were always innocent is to show that they still have not learned from their own history. As in Micah’s day, they are still saying, “Disgrace will not overtake us. Is the Spirit of the Lord angry? Does he do such things?” But unless they repent and believe the gospel, a thousand holocausts would not even approach the kind of suffering that they will experience after this life. Of course this is not true just for the Jews, but for all people everywhere.

Vincent Cheung, vincentcheung.com 9 Comments [9/20/2018 2:20:33 AM]
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Quote# 140523

If you knew a non-Christian who had died in one of the great disasters of recent years – someone who was killed by warfare, by terrorism, by flood, or by fire – do not weep for him because of how he died, but weep for him because of what he is suffering now. This person might be your father or mother, your brother or sister, your son or daughter, your spouse, or a friend. At this very moment in hell, he is screaming in extreme agony, and being tortured by an unearthly pain. He curses God, but God laughs at him. He begs God to release him, but God only increases his suffering. He calls out your name, but you cannot hear him, you cannot help him. He recalls the times when the two of you made fun of the Christians and mocked their God. He thinks about the time when one of them stumped him in a debate, but he hardened his heart even more.

He remembers how he was encouraged in his unbelief when he read a certain novel that portrayed Christian history as just one great conspiracy. Now he realizes that all it contained were old theories that were refuted long ago. One of the newcomers in hell had told him that they even made it into a movie. The devil overheard and chuckled, “Could you people be any more gullible? You claimed to be so rational and so knowledgeable, so advanced…Ha! And you were fooled by a novel? Well, you will meet the author in a just a few years. You can get his autograph then!”

No matter how he died, or what kind of person you thought he was, if he died a non-Christian, then he is now in hell – burning, burning, burning! Combine all the mental distress that you have ever suffered and all the physical agony that you have ever endured, multiply its intensity by a million times, and extend its duration to endless eternity, and you will have a faint idea of what he is going through right now. But our imagination fails us, for anything that we can imagine is far weaker than what God is now doing to your friend or relative. So I will restrain myself, lest my description makes hell sound too pleasant. God does not do a half-baked job at anything – what he promises, he delivers, and when he punishes, he goes all the way.

Vincent Cheung, vincentcheung.com 14 Comments [9/20/2018 2:22:20 AM]
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Quote# 140486

In May of 2015, I published an article entitled “8 steps to confront your wife’s sexual refusal”. In this article I detailed 8 steps that Christian men could take in confronting sexual defraudment on the part of their wives. This article has since become one of the top 5 viewed pages on this blog and this page alone has had about 800,000 views since I first published it. I made some edits to this article over the last few years but essentially it has remained the same. Here are the 8 steps I list for men in confronting their wife’s sexual refusal:

Step 1 – Rebuke her privately

Step 2 – Stop taking her on dates or trips

Step 3 – No unnecessary household upgrades

Step 4 – Stop doing the little extra things

Step 5 – Remove her funding

Step 6 – Rebuke her before witnesses

Step 7 – Bring her before the Church


And then I gave the 8th and final step for husbands if these 7 steps did not bring their wife to repentance:

“What if none of these 7 steps work?

If your wife remains willfully defiant, yet she has not left you, it could be for a variety of reasons. She may not want to lose how she lives with you and she knows that after a divorce her lifestyle will be severely affected, and she does not want to deal with the consequences of divorce. Perhaps she may have some genuine care for you left as well as your children but she simply cannot see the error of her ways and will hold out indefinitely with the hope that one day you will fold and give her back the money, the dates, the trips, the house hold upgrades and she will not have been forced to change her ways.

But you have a final step you may take, one that you need to pray long and hard about before you do.

You have the option to divorce her for her sexual immorality.

“But I tell you, everyone who divorces his wife, except in a case of sexual immorality, causes her to commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.” – Matthew 5:32(HCSB)”


biblicalgenderroles, Biblical Gender Roles 17 Comments [9/18/2018 2:53:08 AM]
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Quote# 140535

Peter: This says it all: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/keithgiles/2018/09/over-7000-pastors-admit-they-dont-follow-jesus/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=FBCP-PRX&utm_content=keithgiles

Martin: Yes, it prove Patheos is nothing to do with Christianity. Clearly Keith Giles knows nothing of the gospel or Jesus Christ.

TS (unami): Can you ever say something positive?

Martin: I'm positive it prove Patheos is nothing to do with Christianity.

TS (Unami): *sigh*
No, you're just being negative again.
Sadly typical.
See, Martin -- YOU don't decide who is a Christian, OK?
That distinction belongs to JESUS CHRIST -- not you.

(...)

Martin: I say the same things because they need to be said.


Martin, Premier 6 Comments [9/20/2018 2:32:15 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 140539

Martin: Pretty good evidence that Christian Aid is not Christian in any sense of the word.

Patrick Gillan: Just so you know people who do not refer to themselves as Christians do extraordinary things for other people

Martin: But their motives, the Bible tells us, are always sinful.

John Anthony: Goodness Martin, you are certainly heart and soul of the conversation aren't you ?

Martin: You have a problem with what the Bible says ?

Peter: Start here. It describes your theology to a T. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/formerlyfundie/why-calvinism-makes-me-want-to-gouge-my-eyes-out/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=FBCP-PRX&utm_content=formerlyfundie

Martin: In other words, you reject what the Bible says, as does the Atheist who wrote that pathetic blog. His only argument is "I don't like it". Tough, God hasn't asked you to like it, He's told you to accept it. When you've finished stamping your feet at God consider that he has your life in His hands.

Martin, Premier 6 Comments [9/20/2018 2:33:58 AM]
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Submitted By: CC

Quote# 8479

Here's a little bit more of the proof that UFOs are demonological. [...] The most well known verses of Revelation 13 are quoted here -- the stamped image/666 verses.
Read them carefully. Verse 17 says that 666 in Verse 18 "stood for its name." So, what is the famous "name of the beast" that 666 stands for? Watch
A.................................1
B.................................2
C.................................3
D.................................4
E.................................5
F..............................6
G H I J K L M N
O.......................................6
P...........................................5
Q...........................................4
R...........................................3
S............................................2
T............................................1
U...................6
V.......................5
W......................4
X.......................3
Y.......................2

Z.......................1
U F O
So, treating 666 as what is referred to as a simple "atbash" code with the English alphabet as the key decodes "666" to the "name of the beast," "UFO."
Before skeptics jump all over this, I should point this out...
There are different version of the Book of Revelation in the ancient scrolls of the world. In one of those alternate versions of the Book of Revelation, the "number of the beast" isn't "666," but "616."
Watch.
A.............................1 b c d e f g h i j k l m n
O.......................................6
P...........................................5
Q...........................................4
R...........................................3
S............................................2
T............................................1
U..................6
V......................5
W.....................4
X......................3
Y......................2

Z......................1

U A O
"UAO" is the British version of "UFO." So, both versions of the famous "number of the beast" in ancient scrolls decode to UFO-related terms.

[...]

1 through 36 inclusive are arranged in the shape of an equilateral triangle, with 8 digits on the edge, like this...

<div align="center">1
2....3
4....5....6
7....8....9...10
11...12...13...14...15
16...17...18...19...20...21
22...23...24...25...26...27...28
29...30...31...32...33...34...35...36</div>

I separated the numbers by periods to try to insure even placement after the MSN system finishes "chewing-up" and "digesting" my post.
Now, here's the key: The natural numbers 1 through 36 add up to 666.
So, Pythagoras' equilateral triangle stands for "666."

Deep_MindQuest, Bibleforums.org 54 Comments [12/3/2005 12:00:00 AM]
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