Quote# 137636

Yes, we should engage with gay people - but not support gay activity, which is what the Pride festival is about. Jesus told the woman caught in adultery to go and sin no more; He didn't hurt her, but He also didn't encourage her to be proud of/ continue what she'd done. What’s
most tragic, is that our society’s celebration and encouraging of
homosexuality demonstrates it’s rejection of God. It utterly breaks my
heart; on the occassions that I've thought deeply about the LGBT
movement, I've ended up in tears. What actually matters is whether we'll
spend eternity with Him, and most people around us don't realise that
they're at risk of missing their opportunity. We must continually seek
with urgency to do all we can to show Jesus to our world - He is
infinitely better and more exciting than sex.

Grace Dalton, Premier 6 Comments [4/2/2018 11:59:22 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 37822

Most Athiests usually use the "Problem of Evil" argument to prove that God doesn't exist. This argument asks the question: if God is perfect , all knowing, and omnipressent (everywhere at once) then why are there imperfections and suffering in this world?"

My rebutle to that--my philosophy is that perhapse God allowed things to be imperfect to prove his existence. Try to stay with me on this. Man is imperfect, right? Therefore the ideas of man must be imperfect. however, God is perfect, right? So therefore, God can not be a man made idea because He is perfect, thus God exists as an actual spiritual being.

Shezara, Fanart Central Forums 64 Comments [4/18/2008 2:25:31 AM]
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Quote# 37837

[about Expelled: The Movie]

Darwinism, of course, does not permit for the existence of a supreme being, a higher power, or a God. His interviews with some of the professors who espouse Darwinism are literally shocking. The condescension and the arrogance these people have, they will readily admit that Darwinism and evolution do not explain how life began. One of these professors said it might have been that a hyper-intelligence from another planet came here and started our race. This from some professor either in the UK, I forget where it was, but can't be God. These people are so threatened by the existence of God, they will not permit intelligent design to be discussed. Professors have been fired, blackballed, and prevented from working who have deigned to try to combine the whole concept of evolution with intelligent design.

Rush Limbaugh, rushlimbaugh.com 70 Comments [4/18/2008 8:48:18 AM]
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Quote# 37839

How does that prove anything? It's just big words and a lot of numbers? You can "prove" anything using long words nobody understands and a lot of numbers to make it look like you know what you are talking about. Answer me this - after the mother monkey gave birth to the fist person, who or what did this person breed with?

ImNoMonkey, Topix 75 Comments [4/18/2008 1:32:42 PM]
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Submitted By: Paul The Burptist

Quote# 37815

First off, God doesn't use magic, He does miricales. Our minds can't really understand that. But, if you read the whole Bible, you will find that it has prophecies, yes? Well, some of those prophecies has ALREADY come true. How can people believe that we evolved from... some goop or monkies. It just doesn't make any sence.

If we came from monkies, then we would have proof already because then the monkies we have in captivity would turn into a human. It's just not right. In order to understand everything, you really need to read the whole thing to understand. Even go to a church if you're stuck.

JolieMonique, GaiaOnline 58 Comments [4/18/2008 10:04:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Lou

Quote# 37840

when we go to stores, my son and I go on "magazine duty." We turn over or cover up any and all inappropriate magazines. If everyone would do this, they would never sell or have to be seen by decent people like us."

Anonymous Poster, OneNewsNow 94 Comments [4/18/2008 10:11:24 PM]
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Submitted By: RFP15

Quote# 37870

CJ said,

April 16, 2008 at 9:24 am

We believe in talking birds (African Grey Parrot). Why is a talking snake such a stretch? We have evidence of an animal that speaks today, yet no one can prove that snakes have never spoken. It all seems so silly. If atheist want to label faith as fantasy, perhaps they should pick better examples.

CJ, Friendly Atheist 48 Comments [4/19/2008 5:05:34 AM]
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Quote# 37887

Religion is never a force for good. These people are so blind and it's so sad. Religion only enslaves. It's the problem not the solution.
I'm so glad I don't have a religion with Jesus, I have a relationship!



LoudRam, Rapture Ready 55 Comments [4/19/2008 6:37:11 AM]
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Quote# 37874

I'm trying my best not to use any big words for nonchristians can understanding me.

LoneWolf1984, deviantART 84 Comments [4/19/2008 6:43:53 AM]
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Submitted By: Flatworm

Quote# 137065

It is a continuation of the liberal project of modernity which started in the 18th century but got trapped inside the national state because of nationalism. The goal is universal individualism and contractual only relations between individuals- no non-commercial (not chosen) community ties&bonds which would limit the individual.

Ovidiu, Gab 8 Comments [4/1/2018 7:29:16 AM]
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Quote# 137644

What about blind women?

Fucking drunk again today and got that dumbfuck hopeful again, so here's my endgame.

Wait until my Oneitis finally goes completely blind. Maybe have a fucking chance.

Probably wouldn't work for fatcels but for everyone else though

If they can't see you, looks really DON'T matter?

The booze says this is a good idea and very smart.

I'mnotevenhere, incels.me 4 Comments [4/2/2018 12:00:33 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 137619

Unaware of my natural surroundings, I was totally caught away in a heavenly vision. I still search for the adequate words to paint a picture of the majestic vision I saw. Before my eyes, a chariot of fire swept down from the heavens. It was the most glorious sight! The flames appeared to leap from the chariot, lighting up the heavenlies so that a golden glow encircled the chariot. Each flame seemed to carry within itself a remarkable ability to release light into the atmosphere. As the flames leapt, in their places other "fresh" flames would ignite upon the chariot, and new flames also descended from heaven upon the chariot to ignite where previous flames had been. The glorious glow from the flames lit a highway in the skies where the chariot traveled. The chariot was constantly lit with a fresh fire, a fire that never burned out. It was an eternal burning vehicle of glory, burning with a fire that would not be quenched.

The chariot also sparkled with a richness of gold that is almost indescribable. The "depth" of the golden color somehow symbolized a most profound depth of God's glory, so deep that His glory extended into eternity with no boundaries. Similar to the weightiness of solid gold, the chariot was draped with the heaviness, the stability and the majesty of His divine glory.

The chariot swept through the skies as if it were circling the globe. It seemed to be searching for a landing strip. The vehicle of golden fire circled and then re-circled repeatedly/ finally heading toward the earth as if to land. But not landing, the fiery presence hurled back into the heavenlies and circled once more. Finally, the chariot of glory made a direct descent and attempted to make its landing. As it reached the earth, I noticed that it did not actually plant firmly on the ground but, rather, hovered a few inches above the ground. Now the chariot was directly in front of me, and I could examine its characteristics more closely.

The chariot seemed to have a personality all its own. It appeared to be alive and active with a strong determination to move forward and accomplish its mission on the earth. Two eyes appeared in front of the chariot like two headlights on modern-day vehicles. The eyes were focused on the ground, looking at a road that was inappropriate for landing or traveling. The road was full of potholes and rocks. It had so many gaping gulches and deep crevices that absolutely no vehicle could travel on it. Because the road was not properly prepared for travel, the chariot seemed saddened. I sensed that the chariot desired to go forth, and yet it grieved because there was no highway on which it could travel.

Suddenly I knew the purpose of this vision. God was seeking a highway upon which to release His glory! I felt the compassion of the Father who desired to show His glory to His precious children, but no path had been prepared. I was overwhelmed with a sense of urgency, and I knew that He wanted to come now. I also was aware that the road needed proper preparation so that His glory could travel upon it. As I continued to observe the vision, I began to cry out within myself, Lord, how do we prepare the way? Help me to understand how to prepare You a place!
I then saw miles of men and women all dressed in solid white garments and standing in rows on each side of the road. God revealed to me that these were the apostles and prophets of the Most High God. On one side of the road were the prophets, and on the opposite side were the apostles. I was amazed at the number of white robes lining the road, which extended like an endless highway into mountains and plains.

A sound from the chariot caught my attention. It was the sound of a fresh burst of flames being ignited. The chariot was becoming "fired up" to move forward down this road. I thought to myself, How are we going to fix this road for God's glory to travel upon it?

Suddenly the apostles and prophets began to lie down in the road. One by one, they flung their bodies on top of the unleveled road to fill every gulch and crevice with their bodies. They did not hesitate to hurl themselves on top of sharp rocks and briars, to lay down their lives as a Highway of Holiness for the chariot of God's glory. My thoughts and emotions leaped inside myself. What bravery! What commitment! I only wish that I were that determined.

I was overwhelmed with a sense of destiny and spiritual fortitude. I found myself involved in the sacrifice, this death-to-self experience. I quickly threw my own body down before the chariot, not caring how much pain or suffering I endured. I only knew that I wanted His glory and would gladly lay down my life for it At that moment of tremendous sacrifice, a level highway stretched out for the chariot to travel upon. The chariot landed on the road and sped forth. Ignited with a fresh thrust of fire, the chariot blazed a trail upon the new foundation of the apostles and prophets who were willing to lay down their lives for His glory.

Sandie Freed, Strategies from Heaven's Throne: Claiming the Life God Wants for You (book) 12 Comments [4/1/2018 9:10:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Denizen

Quote# 137616

Hi folks......I am honored to make your Flat Earth hit list. I want to go on record saying Satellites, Dinosaurs, the moon landing and evolution are all fake. Sorry folks, we never were apes. I know most of you believe NASA and Scientism but you will feel different some day. First there was nothing and then "nothing" blew up and created everything over millions of years by random chance. See how perfect Earth is just by chance? lol. Only a monkey would believe that.

Lightendog, Youtube 13 Comments [4/1/2018 9:09:43 AM]
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Quote# 137556

Toronto-based Sweet Jesus Ice Cream, which is expanding into the United States, is facing backlash and boycotts from Christians over its name. Detractors are calling the the frozen dessert purveyor’s moniker “blasphemous” and an example of “hate speech,” reports CBC News.

A Citizengo.org petition directed at the owners of Sweet Jesus has drummed up 10,341 signatures as of this posting, with a goal of 20,000.

“Choosing the name of our Lord for a brand of soft-serve ice cream is totally offensive and revolting,” says the petition’s creator. “Even if this were some innocent faux-pas, it would still be unacceptable! However, this is anything but a mere mistake. Both in their promotional materials and menu selection, it is plain to see that [founders Andrew] Richmond and [Amin] Todai have every intention of mocking Christ and Christianity.

“If anything could qualify as ‘hate speech,’ this is it!”

A separate petition on Change.org has nearly reached its target of 1,500 signatures. “God forbid the name of the prophet Muhammad was used in this manner or the name of Allah against Muslims,” this petition reads. “So why is it that the name of Jesus Christ can be openly mocked in our so-called fair, equal, and democratic society?”

Sweet Jesus, founded in 2015 by Richmond and Todai, has 20 locations, mostly in the Toronto area. The only American outpost, currently, is inside the Baltimore–Washington International Airport. However, more storefronts in the United States are reportedly on the way. A disclaimer on the company’s website explains the name “was created from the popular phrase that people use as an expression of enjoyment, surprise or disbelief,” and that Sweet Jesus does not intend to “offer commentary on anyone’s religion or belief systems.” In a statement provided to CBC News, Richmond and Todai say they have taken the petitions into consideration, but they note: “After a lot of thought, we have decided that we will not make a change.”

Anonymous Christian fundamentalists, Eater 25 Comments [3/31/2018 3:03:47 PM]
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Submitted By: Pax Prosperitas Sophia

Quote# 137587

Amos Moses:
if it as music espouses things that are in opposition to christianity ...... then it is antithetical to it ...

Okay, fine. But what if it doesn't?

Amos Moses:
null set ..... it all pretty much does ...... either in word or in content or in context or in presentation ..........

I guess I missed the part of the Bible that had the commandment "thou shalt not rock".

Amos Moses:
you miss a lot of scripture ...... modern music is OF the world and antithetical to christianity ......

Tristan Fry:
How about instrumental modern music?

Amos Moses:
the beat and the instruments used are more central to the issue than anything else .........

Tristan Fry:
How can they be? There are no words.

Amos Moses:
deceptive then ... isnt it ........

Tristan Fry:
How do you deceive anyone when you say nothing?

Amos Moses:
saying something is not required ..... the music brings about an emotional response ...... words are not needed ...... the emotional response to it is antithetical to christianity .....

Tristan Fry:
No, I disagree. That makes no sense. If there are no words there is nothing but a visceral response to the music. Some people will like louder and more boisterous music and others quieter and more reflective. It is PURELY a matter of personal opinion and personal taste.

Amos Moses:
i do not care if you disagree ............. it is not a matter of "opinion" ...... Christ asks us to fill our minds with Him ...... the music causes that to be abandoned ...... it is antithetical to christianity ............. it is of the world ...... it is deceptive and the proof of that is .... you "disagree" ............ it is the same reaction of the mind to a drug ...... there are no words ..... and yet your mind is affected ........... the neuro-chemical reaction to the music is the drug .............

Tristan Fry:
You're not even talking about something that can be discussed with words, it's purely sounds that are going to be agreeable to some and disagreeable to others, so how can you even say any of this? Listening to music doesn't cause Christ to be "abandoned" from the mind, some of the most beautiful music in the world such as Handel's Messiah (which has many instrumental passages) puts the listener in mind of Christ very effectively.

Amos Moses:
drugs do not need words ...... sounds cause neuro-chemical effects and changes in the brain ..... or do you deny this ....."Listening to music doesn't cause Christ to be "abandoned" from the mind," ... it most certainly does ....... even "Handel's Messiah" .......... but that is not a modern work either ..... but the effects of music on the mind are not in dispute .............

Tristan Fry:
You still don't realize that what you're basically doing here is saying you understand God's taste in music better than anyone else. That's a ridiculous argument to be having so I'm not going to continue.

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 17 Comments [3/31/2018 3:05:59 PM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137612

26 MAR 18


How Croatian Wikipedia Made a Concentration Camp Disappear

Unlike Wikipedia in other languages, the Croatian version refers to the WWII Jasenovac concentration camp as a “collection camp” - as well as playing down fascist crimes and ignoring right-wingers’ controversies.

Sven Milekic | BIRN | Zagreb

With its nationalist sentiments, factual mistakes, lack of academic references and omitted facts about World War II history, Croatian Wikipedia is not a reliable source, analysts have told BIRN.

Articles that refer to the Croatian WWII fascist Ustasa movement and its crimes are criticised as particularly unreliable, ideologically loaded and imprecise, thus downplaying the crimes.

The clearest example is the Ustasa’s biggest concentration camp, Jasenovac, which in the title of the Croatian Wikipedia article is referred to as “Jasenovac Collection Camp” - a term which does not have such negative connotations as ‘concentration camp’.

According to the Jasenovac Memorial Site, the Ustasa killed over 83,000 Serbs, Jews, Roma and anti-fascists in the camp between 1941 and 1945.

The camp was used as a concentration camp as well as a labour camp – in terms of labour being used to physically debilitate inmates, causing their deaths – and a death camp, as many detainees were executed at various sites in the camp system immediately or soon after their arrival.

The Croatian far right often refers to Jasenovac as a “collection”, “labour” or “punishment” camp.

Wikimedia entries in other languages – English, French, German, Italian, Spanish and Russian – refer to Jasenovac as a concentration or extermination camp in their titles.

But on Croatian Wikipedia, even the biggest Nazi death camp, Auschwitz, is referred to in the title of the entry as the “Auschwitz Collection Camp”.

Hrvoje Klasic, a historian at the Faculty of Humanities and Social Studies in Zagreb, told BIRN that “there is a large difference” between English-language and Croatian Wikipedia.

He explained how sometimes he tells his students to look something up on English-language Wikipedia if the article has plenty of academic and scientific references.

“However, I would never give Croatian Wikipedia to my students if they want to learn something about the Croatian history. I myself saw that a number of articles and topics are done in a completely revisionist manner, with highly emphasised nationalist and, I would dare to say, pro-Ustasa sentiment,” Klasic said, arguing that entries on World War II, socialist Yugoslavia and Croatia’s 1990s war.

While the article on the Jasenovac camp in English has 187 reference notes, along with 37 references to books and two to academic articles, the Croatian version has 57 reference notes - with a large number coming from right-wing media and private blogs - and only three books.

Klasic said that although Jasenovac was in part a labour camp, referring to it as that alone is misleading.

“It’s completely the same as if I wrote a book on the Third Reich and simply stated that during its time, employment and industrial production went up, saying that citizens’ living standard improved. That is all correct if you exclude all that happened to all the others who weren’t seen as part of the German nation,” he said.

He also argued that by referring to Jasenovac as simply a collection and labour camp is to use “the same language” as Ustasa propaganda, which did not publicly mention killings in the camp. All this downplays the crimes committed there, Klasic said.

BIRN asked Croatian Wikipedia’s administrators for a comment, but received no reply.

In the talk section of the entry on Jasenovac, where readers can put questions to the administrators, they were asked about the use of the term “collection camp” back in 2012.

An administrator using the alias SpeedyGonsales replied that the camp was officially called Jasenovac Collection Camp by the Ustasa and that the description ‘concentration camp’ was just a “colloquialism”.

“Without a valid explanation, I do not see a reason for doing factual and linguistic violence to the article for the benefit of a colloquialism. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, let’s respect the principles of an encyclopaedia,” SpeedyGonsales said.

Wikipedia in English labels Jasenovac as a "concentration camp", while German puts "KZ", an acronym for Konzentrationslager (concentration camp). Photo: Wikipedia screenshot.

Goran Hutinec, a historian at the Faculty of Humanities and Social Studies in Zagreb said the problem lies in the fact that the official name for Jasenovac “does not truly describe the function of the camp”.

“It looks as someone isn’t aware that the term used back then [collection camp] may not have same meaning now. I mean, it partly had that function… but clearly not only that function,” Hutinec told BIRN.

He said that Jasenovac was used for the temporary internment of political prisoners – like Croatian politician Vlatko Macek, who spent five months in Jasenovac before being released – as well as a place for the execution of people “who didn’t even enter the camp upon arrival, but were quickly transported to nearby killing sites”.

Hutinec argued that even Auschwitz had “ten different purposes for which it was used” – as a death camp and a labour camp, amongst other purposes. He added that the same could be said about Jasenovac and other WWII-era camps run by the Ustasa.

He further argued that the Croatian Wikipedia has “many shortcomings, factual mistakes and ideologically loaded language” compare to the English and German versions.

The Jasenovac entry on Croatian Wikipedia has yet more disputed sections.

Almost 40 per cent of the entry on Jasenovac is given over to allegations that the name-by-name list of the victims of the camp – compiled by Jasenovac Memorial Site – is false.

It highlight allegations that with the number of people killed has been manipulated, and also talks about a post-WWII Communist-run camp at the same site, although there is no valid historical proof that it ever existed.

In these passages, Croatian Wikipedia mostly focuses on a highly controversial Zagreb-based NGO called the Society for Research of the Threefold Jasenovac Camp. The NGO mostly involves people who are not professional historians, who estimate the death toll as low as 1,500 – significantly lower than any other historians.

In the entry on Jasenovac, Croatian Wikipedia gives Igor Vukic, the Society’s secretary, a professional journalist, the same credit as professional historians.

Spanish Wikipedia refers to Jasenovac as a "concentration camp", while French labels it an "extermination camp". Photo: Wikipedia screenshot.

The English version mentions disputes about camp’s death toll, offering figures which have been offered by many historians, demographers and others, but it does not state that the current numbers have manipulated, nor does it mentions the alleged post-war Communist camp which is claimed by the Society to have existed.

Instead, the English version gives a lot of space to describing the living conditions in the camp, the mass murders committed there, and how many people coming to Jasenovac were “scheduled for systematic extermination”.

In describing the conditions, crimes and killings at the camp, Croatian Wikipedia gives one quote from a former inmate and one additional sentence.

The distinct difference that Croatian Wikipedia displays when covering the Ustasa past can be seen in entries on the movement’s leader, Ante Pavelic.

“Ante Pavelic… was a Croatian fascist general and military dictator who founded and headed the fascist ultranationalist organisation known as the Ustase in 1929 and governed the Independent State of Croatia a fascist Nazi puppet state built out of Yugoslavia by the authorities of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy,” the first sentence of the article in English reads.

It mentions large-scale crimes against Serbs, Jews, Roma and anti-fascists in the second sentence.

Croatian Wikipedia describes Pavelic as “a Croatian politician, lawyer, leader and founder of the Ustasa regime and poglavnik [head] of the Independent State of Croatia”.

The English version gives several times more space to the crimes of Pavelic’s regime and its dictatorial nature.

Also related to the topic of the Ustasa, in its article on the Croatian film director Jakov Sedlar, Croatian Wikipedia leaves out all the controversies surrounding his documentary on the camp, ‘Jasenovac - The Truth’.

The film, which premiered in Zagreb in April 2016, has been strongly criticised for appearing to downplay the crimes committed at the camp.

While the Croatian Wikipedia entry does not mention the issue at all, the English version has an entire section headlined ‘Controversies’, as well as a whole separate article on the film, mentioning all the alleged evidence that Sedlar used which was disputed.

Croatian Wikipedia also does not scrutinise some other controversial public figures.

In its entry on former Culture Minister Zlatko Hasanbegovic, Croatian Wikipedia completely leaves out weekly newspaper Novosti’s discovery that he wrote an article for a pro-fascist bulletin called the Independent State of Croatia in 1996, in which he described the Ustasa as “heroes and martyrs”. The English-language Wikipedia mentions it, and offers links.

Public figures on the left are put under much more scrutiny by the Croatian Wikipedia.

In the entry on ‘Left Extremism in Croatia’, veteran peace activist Vesna Terselic, Croatian Serb leader Milorad Pupovac and some anti-fascist organisations are named as proponents of extremism who block attempts to deal with Communist-era crimes.

Sometimes certain contributors on the Croatian Wikipedia have gone too far and the administrators – who approve all the articles – have had to step in and make changes.

When Predrag Lucic, a journalist, editor, writer, and one of the founders of the legendary anti-establishment magazine Feral Tribune died in January, the initial Croatian Wikipedia entry offered a somewhat insulting description of his achievements.

“By mocking people with different political positions, he has achieved tremendous success among Yugonostalgics, admirers of communism and opponents of independent Croatia. There is not a single serious journalistic piece [by Lucic] that a cultural critic would give a passing grade,” it read.


Who owns Croatian Wikipedia?

The Wikimedia Foundation Inc, a US-based non-profit charitable NGO, is the owner of the Croatian version of Wikipedia.

However, the Wikimedia Foundation is not the founder of the Croatian version, nor does it accept that it is responsible for the accuracy of its articles. It insists that it does not have any power over Croatian-language Wikipedia entries.

All the administrators and associates on Croatian Wikipedia are volunteers.

Historical revisionists on Croatian Wikipedia, BalkanInsight 3 Comments [3/31/2018 3:07:40 PM]
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Submitted By: Vman

Quote# 137618

What's up with the title? I don't see how the Native Americans are doing jack shit here, except cooking dinner. I did however see some highly intelligent and hard working white people doing some fantastic work to save these strains, then instead of doing the right thing and selling them for a profit so these strains can increase the foodcrop diversity worldwide, they hand them over to some local lazyasses sponging off government handouts. White people need to stop feeling bad about what our ancestors did centuries ago. It's over. We had nothing to do with it. And we have done more to move humanity forward than any other race. Fuck white guilt. There is no other race that has ever hated itself for the immoral deeds of it's forebearers, and literally every race has a shameful history, not one excluded. We need to stop apologizing, and the rest of humanity should be grateful for what we've done for them.?

JC, YouTube 5 Comments [4/1/2018 9:09:59 AM]
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Quote# 137015

It is possible that many of us (if not all of us) will die before the Rapture. The Bible does not tell us when Christ will return. I do sincerely believe that it will be very soon, but I do not know. God has an appointed time for the Lord's return. We could die of a sudden heart-attack by sundown (Proverb 27:1). We do not know when the Lord will return, but we do know that death could come at any moment. If you die in your sins, it will be your DOOMSDAY!!! If you knowingly reject Christ and the Rapture happens, God will send you strong delusion for rejecting Christ and you will be totally deceived by the Antichrist (2nd Thessalonians 2:11).

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 9 Comments [4/1/2018 7:26:49 AM]
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Quote# 37882

[RE: the kids taken from a church under suspicion of having been married off to much older men]

I don't see "authorities" going into the homes of unwed pregnant teenagers and taking the kids from their parents. I think it is hypocritical for the government to treat "religious" people differently. How about the thousands of girls that have abortions every year at Planned Parenthood? They are required by law to report abuse (rape, incest, sex with minors by adults etc..) and have you ever heard of even one case? There is abuse in all walks of life, should the state take the kids from every church member when one member is accused of abuse?

can4christ, Rapture Ready 39 Comments [4/19/2008 9:04:36 AM]
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Quote# 37842

I can only say that there is more atheist attacks on Christians than visa versa.

Garak_3473, startrek.com 40 Comments [4/19/2008 2:06:13 PM]
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Quote# 37864


My name is John Muise, I am a Christian born and raised in the greatest Country i think there is :flagcanada: Eh.

Anywho enough foreplay. :D

I believe very strongly that the earth is about 6,000 years old, It was created in 6 literal 24 hour days, and that Jesus is they way the truth and the light. The evolution theory as presented today is 100% false in every aspect with the exception of micro evolution, if it can so be called, I prefer it be called adaptation and nothing else because it confuses the kids.

I am willing to talk about any topic under Stellar, Chemical, Cosmic, Organic, Macro and Micro Evolution, Geology, Physics and various branches from these main topics.

The Bible contains all factual material and i will continue to believe it till its proven wrong. (good luck)

Most of my inspiration comes from Dr. Kent Hovind, Walt Brown Ph.D, Bruce Malone and Don Boys Ph.D.

John Muise, deviantART 91 Comments [4/19/2008 7:00:16 AM]
Fundie Index: 13
Submitted By: Imroy

Quote# 37867

"You need to explain basic evolutionary concepts to me, as I asked in the other thread, in your own words."

1. life started from some mud pool,extreme heat,gases etc etc!! scientist dont even know! its all theories.

2. some how a franken-cell came evolved into the first plant,animal,micro oraginsim who knows what the heck it first turned into.

3. some how plants evolved into animals,then animals turned into humans.

there you go the silly evolution.

IknowTruth, RationalResponders 28 Comments [4/19/2008 7:01:12 PM]
Fundie Index: 1

Quote# 137510

"Today's Laugh 3-27-18"

Mick Williams, Disqus - Faith & Religion 7 Comments [3/31/2018 2:50:37 PM]
Fundie Index: 1
Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 137521

[ on a post telling pedos to stay away from kids ]

Teachers can go into schools. People can go to the park during the day to have a picnic. I don’t think kissing or cuddling kids is okay, but a lot of “no contact” pedophiles seem to beg to differ so I added it.

Yeah as do I, like I said in my other reblog of this. And to your other response, it’s not about legality. It’s ok to cuddle (and cuddling doesn’t neccesarily mean in bed) with a kid we like, because, as long as it’s not anything harmful, we can do ANYTHING non pedophiles can do. As long as the child isn’t aware of our feelings, it’s exactly the same to them, therefore not harmful.

Really? Because my therapist told me something along the lines not to trust someone who has the pedophile heart as a cover and thinks looking at child porn is gross and thinks the whole MAP community is actively dangerous. You know that heart’s associated with child grooming right? Of course you do. You take a lot of inspiration from chomos

People wrongfully associate the heart with pro contact, it’s girl love in general, I use it to show my appreciation for young girls, because it’s NOT just a sexual attraction, so I would never hurt them. Trust me, your therapist is in the minority when it comes to professionals who specialize in this stuff. The anti community, with their suicide baiting and death threats, are much more dangerous than us. I didn’t say I HAD to. I’m saying if the opportunity presented itself, there’s absolutely no reason I should decline. If no kid has wanted to cuddle with you, well it’s your loss. Maybe shows you the kind of person you are. Let me tell you a few stories. One time I was staying at a friend’s house, and he was dating a girl who had a 4yo daughter, and for a few nights while she was there, she got out of her bed, and onto the couch with me. Did ask, didn’t know me. And I simply enjoyed the cuddle, wasn’t tempted even a little to do more. In the morning the first time, her mom said, “Yeah she doesn’t like sleeping alone.” Another time at a family get together, my 2nd cousin, who also didn’t know me very well, layed on the couch next to me while watching tv. While I had my arm around the 4yo because of the “in bed” setting and how young she was, so it was appropriate, I didn’t touch my 2nd cousin, because she was older and didn’t know her well and the setting wasn’t appropriate. And finally, at another friend’s house, he had two daughters who likes to periodically sit on my lap while at my computer. So as you see, it happens, non of it was instigated by me, therefore perfectly fine, and non predatory. It’s YOU’RE responsibility to educate yourself, and have an open, non bigoted mind. The majority of CSA is committed by situational offenders that get off on power and control, not the children themselves, not pedophiles. It’s a real statistic, look it up. We’re just as safe for children as anyone else. You’re fighting an ignorant, losing battle.

You’re sick. It’s not ignorant or bigoted to tell you to keep your hands off children you’re attracted to. It’s fucking depraved that you think what you’re doing is okay. Stop being a chomo and you’ll get less hate? Does he know you’re attracted to his daughters?

Of course not because he’d probably overreact just like everyone else does. Whether or not people know is irrelevant. Why? Because in the end, the situation is exactly the same as if a non pedo was in it. My feelings are my own business and don’t effect anyone else.

I see a lot of blogs saying maps don’t need therapy and are perfectly fine the way they are. Shouldn’t this be something that needs to stop?

And then there’s people like me. And I’m going to get hate for this, but I don’t care. If there was a “cure” I wouldn’t take it, and would rather die than it be forced on me. Why? Because A) I know for a FACT I will NEVER offend. My desire not to harm young girls is greater than my desire for them. And B) What Antis seem to fail to understand, is it’s not just sexual, it’s attraction in general. I love being able to appreciate the beauty of young girls, the way they look as well as the way they act, in a way most other people don’t. If I was “cured” I would feel like the world has gone from color, to black and white. Dull and grey. They make me smile, in a non sexual way.

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[discussing theories relating to the origin of the universe]

Really the best expanation and easist to believe is the one where God literally created it all in 6 days. If everyone believed that then those scientists could get to work on something really important like finding a cure for cancer or weight loss or smoking.

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