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Quote# 54796

(It's what Dawkins calls "The God of the Gaps." No matter how small science makes the gaps, the truly stupid will keep trying to shoehorn their 'god' into them.)

Richard Dawkins arrogance never fails to amaze me. What kind of professional adult spokesman, deliberatley calls people stupid???

I believe that if the Big Bang happened, then of course God did it. The proof lies in the fact that science cannot explain what was before it. Human intelligence states that there must have been something before the beginning as 'nothing' simply doesn't exist.
When Dawkins can explain this little conundrum, I may listen to him. In the mean time, whenever there is no earthly answer, then a Godly answer must suffice. To argue otherwise just seems childish to me.

Syrryn, EvilBible.com 43 Comments [12/27/2008 12:39:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Stimbo

Quote# 54870

there is no such thing as atheism. we were all created to worship. but many fill that void with other things. "self", beer, sex, career, the list goes on. we hunger to fill it. we don't get peace without trying.

jingbang74, Youtube 38 Comments [12/27/2008 2:58:13 AM]
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Submitted By: InfectedwithRage

Quote# 141153

You have no idea what the Holy Spirit teaches. If you did you would be seeking to be holy instead of advocating the sexual sin of homosexuality and the mental illness of transgender. It is simply evil to encourage people in such things.

Martin, Premier 9 Comments [11/7/2018 2:16:52 PM]
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Quote# 54879

[This is a comment in response to: If Creationism is taught, then other faith-based origin stories should be taught as well. Would there be time left for serious learning?]

Comment 1: Evolution is faith-based teaching. There is no proof for it only very shaky evidence.

Definition of a cult:
1) As an unquestioning loyalty and blind allegiance to a mortal, belief or idea that has erected walls of protection around it from examination.

2) Believes unquestionably what is taught by "experts" while rejecting reality/self-evidence.

Comment 2: There is equal or surpassing scientific evidence for Creation.
Thousands of books with the wrong evidence are not as good as one that has the correct information. Hitler put a book out that was called "1000 Scientists prove that Einstein was Wrong."
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No one has observed a change in species, only adaptation.
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Ben Stein's excellent movie "Expelled" shows how anything against Evolution is silenced.


[WTF? How could a reasonable and intelligent person ever win an argument on the face of such rampant studity and delusion?]

Tallyman, Answer Bag 32 Comments [12/26/2008 4:53:12 AM]
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Submitted By: Lola Flores

Quote# 30980

Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.

Pat Robertson, Quotes From the Religious Right 318 Comments [11/9/2007 8:08:06 AM]
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Quote# 79807

[12-year-old is raped, later on, it's discovered she's pregnant because of it. Cue a bunch of dicks saying she shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion. Bolding added for emphasis.]

I think it's something that should have been taken care of at the hospital after the fact to ensure that she would not end up that way. Concieved by a rapist or not, the baby is not to blame. The best mother I know became one at 14. She is not far off. I don't mean to sound insensitive, but she knew it was going to be a real possibility that she would end up pregnant. She should have taken measures necessary at the hospital to avoid it.

Timothy Joseph Michael , The Stir @ Cafe Mom 255 Comments [3/8/2011 3:09:13 PM]
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Quote# 139016

How the rightful heir to the throne of England can be restored to the throne.

I realized that since the legal system in the UK has the monarch give royal assent to laws passed, it would be impossible to use the system to change the monarchy.

Because of that, I propose that the secret organization, infiltrates the US government having members of the organization becoming President and members of Congress, so that the US government can use the CIA to kidnap a child heir to the throne from the line of primogeniture to raise to become King or Queen and invade the United Kingdom to put that person on the throne(of course if the heir is still a child, when it happens, there will be a regent until the monarch comes of age).

Jacob Harrison, FSTDT Forums 214 Comments [7/22/2018 2:28:56 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 121043

With the news that Kurn's source has successfully crossed the border, it's time for us to get together and celebrate our new toy.



Feynman and Coulter's love child, The Third Edge of the Sword 16 Comments [8/11/2016 3:23:36 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 141155

They installed one of those giant plasma TV screens in the waiting room of the doctor's office a few months ago. Recently I complained because they were showing famous celebrity murders. I told the receptionist that I was offended by what they were showing on TV. The last thing a person in agonizing pain wants to see is blood-stained walls and hear people screaming on 911 calls. It was really sick. What is wrong with people these days that they enjoy watching garbage like that? People are so far from God. It's bad enough that the daily news is filled with so much tragic news. No wonder violence is increasing in America. Christians ought not watch violent shows on television.

Anyway, the receptionist changed the station to the Food Network. Rachael Ray came on promoting “Sin City” Las Vegas, showing a bunch of whores doing gymnastics with their underwear exposed, and boasting of all the sinful glamour of “Sin City.” I was so disgusted by their glorification of sin. You can't even watch a cooking program anymore without the Devil putting a bunch of filth and temptation in your face. It makes me angry as a Christian. I got up and walked to the other side of the waiting room. Rachael Ray is living for the Devil, working for a heathen company, and is in trouble with God for making light of wickedness. Las Vegas is a disgrace to America. Every website that promotes “Sin City” Las Vegas promotes immoral topless dancing, strip clubs, pornography, prostitutes and fornication. Las Vegas is of the Devil.

I pray for God to curse America, because we deserve nothing less. Why should God bless a nation that commits so much sin, openly, with no remorse nor shame?

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Savior 30 Comments [11/7/2018 2:18:49 PM]
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Quote# 54920

Typical atheist...I don't know what it is but many atheist I have talked with will not ever believe that Jesus Christ is real historical person, many of them don't believe he existed at all (at least they don't want to admit it)...And Now I remember that quote in the bible that says whosoever denies that Christ has come in the flesh is of the spirit of the anti Christ....So you are 100% correct that your not dealing with flesh and blood...I have literally had death threats from atheist online..There hatred for God and the things of God is not normal.

Glory in print, Rapture Ready 33 Comments [12/26/2008 1:33:38 PM]
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Quote# 54822

I actually think that most biologists have got themselves stuck in a “naturalistic” box. They’ve limited themselves, because they have not also studied PHYSICS enough to understand about multiple dimensions, and to understand that “nature” goes far beyond the four dimensions we can directly observe.

I figure that Intelligent Design theory is far more honest than theories of Evolution.

Amy Hess, atheism.about.com 50 Comments [12/25/2008 4:59:10 AM]
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Submitted By: Heaven

Quote# 141026

I think revenge porn is 100% fine. You can't really fault someone if you send them naked pictures/video or let them video tape you having sex, and then they put it on the internet after you break up.

We live in the world of social media sharing, where people talk about how big their shits were or how jealous they are of their friends stuff. Facebook statuses are updated constantly with the most inane garbage that no one should ever know about you, yet it's accessible worldwide by anyone. Tweets are sent out about the most random and mundane shit, as if we're all supposed to be impressed by your run of the mill life and your average Joe opportunities.

We get to see how risque you are with your almost nude instagram pictures! If only you showed a little more skin!

Sorry, but I have zero sympathy for anyone who knowingly allowed nude pictures or video be taken by anyone else, with or without consent.

Eroginous, MMO Champion 19 Comments [11/4/2018 11:39:33 AM]
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Quote# 79387

In a meeting in northern Wisconsin, I mentioned owls and frogs as objects which should not be in your home. The next night a school teacher came for prayer saying the Lord had convicted her to destroy her extensive collection.

When I commanded any spirits connected with the owls to manifest, her mouth dropped open and terrible wails came out. The spirits confessed they were indeed witchcraft demons. They had come in because of the pictures, ceramics and macrames of owls in the house.

Unhappily they shrieked at me, “Why don’t you ever stay home. It was so nice until you came. It’s all your fault, Worley, we hate your guts. You know what she did? She gathered up every owl in the place and burned and broke up every single one! She didn’t miss a one, and she loved us so until you came. We begged her to leave just a few, but she wouldn’t listen. She just bound us and kept right on destroying them. It’s just horrible! Now we’re gonna have to go!”

They were thrown out.

Pastor Worley, Hegewisch Baptist Church 132 Comments [2/14/2011 5:37:17 AM]
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Quote# 141151

The high strangeness continues. The rational world – if such a thing ever existed except in the minds of a few intellectuals and atheists – is in tatters. Whether our current political and environmental disasters are its cause or its symptom is a matter of debate, but what is not up for debate – except by those who refuse to see what’s plainly there – is that we are experiencing Otherworldly phenomena at a rate and intensity not seen in generations and possibly in millennia.

I’ve experienced some of this myself. And because I write publicly about this and related issues in a respectful manner, I get comments and questions from others who’ve experienced it too, or who want to experience it for themselves.

Lately I’m getting questions about the fae.

The fae, the sidhe, the fair folk, the gentry, the good neighbors, the Aos Sí – there are many names for them. Some say they’re nature spirits, some say they’re lesser Gods, some say they’re the people who occupied these lands (especially the lands of Northwestern Europe) before our ancestors arrived. I see them as a wide range of spiritual beings who mostly keep to themselves but occasionally wander into the ordinary world for one reason or another.

The Fair Folk are not my area of expertise. If you have any interest in them at all I strongly, strongly encourage you to do some deeper reading.

Start with The Fairy-Faith in Celtic Countries by Walter Yeeling Evans-Wentz. It’s a survey of encounters with a variety of fae in the Celtic lands. It was first published in 1911 – most of the stories in it are from the 19th century. It’s a book that likely could not be written today, in part because most of the believers in the Otherfolk have died off, and in part because no serious academic today could dare write a book so sympathetic to the supernatural without killing their career.

A quote:

The great majority of men in cities are apt to pride themselves on their own exemption from ‘superstition’ and to smile pityingly at the poor countrymen and countrywomen who believe in fairies. But when they do so they forget that, with all their own admirable progress in material invention, with all the far-reaching data of their acquired science, with all the vast extent of their commercial and economic conquests, they themselves have ceased to be natural.


After that, get Morgan Daimler’s book Fairycraft: Following The Path Of Fairy Witchcraft, particularly if you think you want to “work with the faeries.” I did a brief review of it last September and I highly recommend it.

This is not a “what are the fae?” post, but I will say this: everything Disney taught you about faeries is wrong, and dangerous. They are not small, cute, and harmless. They range in size from tiny to giants, and while some are creatures of amazing beauty, others are the stuff of nightmares. As with humans, outward appearance is no guide to inner qualities. Some see us as occasionally useful simpletons, some as entertaining playthings, and some as lunch.

Almost all the legends and tales say they either cannot lie or will not lie, but they can and will twist the truth so grotesquely you’ll think up is down. If you deal with them, pay careful attention and be scrupulous with your word. Do not promise what you cannot, will not, or do not want to do.

I say the Fair Folk are re-emerging in the ordinary world (do not call it “our world” for it was once theirs, and they have not forgotten this), but they never really went away, not entirely. Perhaps they came into this world less often, but mainly we stopped noticing them, and we ridiculed those who did.

Now we’re seeing them, hearing them, and feeling the impact of their presence on an increasingly frequent basis. Maybe it’s because the Veil Between the Worlds isn’t what it once was. Maybe it’s because there are too many open portals. Maybe the Good Neighbors themselves are opening them. I don’t know why, I just know this is what we’re experiencing.

We’d best pay attention.

Given what our ancestors thought of the fae, why should we deal with them at all? Why not just ignore them when we can and placate them with whiskey and cream when we can’t?

Because there is much we can learn from them. Now, do not think for a minute they are here to be our teachers. If they are in this world, they are here for their own reasons, not to “help us learn and grow in love and light” or anything naïve and self-centered like that. That’s one of the things we can learn from them – to remember that life isn’t all about us and to respect the sovereignty of all beings. We can learn to be true to our word, and we can learn to be so precise in our language that our magic improves because we’re always working for exactly what we want.

We should interact with the Fair Folk because we have common interests. Again, do not think for a minute they are “on our side.” They are on no one’s side but their own – forget that at your peril. While certain fae would be quite happy if we drove ourselves to extinction, we share this world with them, or at least parts of it. And if the Earth becomes inhospitable for us, it is likely to become inhospitable for them as well. We have a common interest in caring for the Earth, or at least not screwing it up even worse than we already have.

Mainly, though, we should deal honestly with the Good Neighbors because they are our neighbors. If we treat them like good neighbors, then good neighbors they will be. If we treat them condescendingly, dismissively, or aggressively, then they will be our enemies and they will make our lives far more difficult and unpleasant than they need to be.

The virtues of hospitality and reciprocity apply to all our neighbors.

I cannot tell you how to see the fae or how to contact them and I would not if I could. Too many people have too many silly Disneyfied misconceptions about who they are and what they want and I will not be responsible for you getting yourself locked in a fairy ring to dance until you die.

But our world is changing rapidly and not for the better. We need the help of all our allies, which means we need to be allies worthy of help. The Fair Folk are re-emerging in the ordinary world. Take the time to learn a thing or two about them so they will be more likely to see you as an honorable person who they can deal with honorably.

John Beckett, Patheos 13 Comments [11/4/2018 1:29:19 PM]
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Quote# 141147

The same Gospel of believing on the Lord was preached in the Old Testament. Hebrews 4:1-3 plainly teaches that Moses preached the Good News of faith in Christ to be saved.

David J. Stewart, Jesus is Precious 13 Comments [11/7/2018 2:13:23 PM]
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Quote# 141157

One can see crystal clear that the mass immigration in the dimension of so many millions of culture strangers like how it is seen in the pact a populous country like Germany with limited resources will have to face an obligatory "whole or partial bodily destruction" of the indigenous people. In part this already happens without the whole "pact" and increases daily by which Germans get slaughtered and raped from no small part of the invaders. This will because of that definitely lead to a "birth prevention within the group". The failure of most migrants to have welfare and self-reliance will force the foreign-smashed government that except by compensating through increases in taxes and spending and through direct and indirect confiscation of wealth from indigenous, so that they birth little to no children. And finally there's a "forced overpass from children in one group to another group" because pure German schools and educational establishments don't exist. On the contrary, foreign children should already get ready to overtake the next generation. Genocide can also be played over bands. Thus don't tell any shit here, UN!

Original German:
Es ist glasklar abzusehen, daß die Massenmigration in der Dimension von zig Millionen Kulturfremder wie es der Pakt vorsieht in ein dichtbesiedeltes Land wie Deutschland mit begrenzten Ressourcen zwangsläufig eine “körperliche Zerstörung ganz oder teilweise” des indigenen Volkes zur Folge haben wird. Zum Teil geschieht dies heute schon ohne ganz “Pakt” und steigert sich tagtäglich, indem Deutsche von keinem geringen Teil nämlicher Invasoren täglich abgeschlachtet und vergewaltigt werden. Auch wird es dadurch sehr wohl zu einer “Geburtenverhinderung innerhalb der Gruppe” kommen. Das Unvermögen der meisten Migranten zur Wohlstandsschaffung und Selbstversorgung wird die ausländerbesoffene Regierung dazu zwingen, das Minus über Erhöhung von Steuern und Abgaben und durch direkte und indirekte Konfiszierung von Vermögen der Indigenen zu kompensieren, so daß diese wenige bis gar keine Kinder mehr in die Welt setzen werden. Und schließlich findet doch eine “gewaltsame Überführung von Kindern der Gruppe in eine andere Gruppe” statt, da ja keine rein deutsche Schulen und Bildungsanstalten existieren, im Gegenteil, ausländische Kinder schon heute sich qua Masse anschicken, die kommenden Generationen zu übernehmen. Völkermord kann man auch über Bande spielen. Also erzähl hier keinen Scheiß, UNO!


Akif Pirinçci, Der Kleine Akif 9 Comments [11/7/2018 2:20:18 PM]
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Submitted By: hydrolythe

Quote# 87810

I've always been fascinated by the fact that it's possible to calculate exactly when the sun will rise and set for a thousand years from now. Or as far out in the future you want to go.

How could that be if evolution is true?

Tom Butler, Baptist Board 100 Comments [6/14/2012 3:15:56 AM]
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Submitted By: PT

Quote# 139670


It's all so simple really. All mass is restructured energy. Spin up a huge cloud of the stuff and it all follows the same pattern and the amount of galaxies and stars in the universe tells us just how much of it there is....I call it superabundant but you can take every atom and break down all their component parts add up all the energy you find then add on another 93% and you will still be way out but under rather than over.

There were already many galaxy clouds, millions in fact, even trillions of them, all containiing vast amounts of this energy and just drifting around space, in a static universe. You can itemise how much potential energy was in each cloud by doing a similar exercise as before for the individual galaxy under scrutiny but that is up to you. Now all we needed was God's hadron collider...a natural event, many times larger than its namesake here on planet Earth and with much fiercer results and which will knock all your sciences calculations into touch...It presents a science that really only a wonderful God can handle and Jesus Christ is the most skilled being to handle the multiplicity of it all.

Thank you for the opportunity to express it again...I look forward to your rants but it won't change the science one iota.


NicholasMarks, Religion and Ethics 9 Comments [8/10/2018 4:32:17 AM]
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Submitted By: NearlySane

Quote# 54692

Some light bulbs are made in almost the same shape as eggs! They may be similar in appearance, but does this mean that eggs and light bulbs are related? The atom resembles our SOLAR SYSTEM (electrons orbit around the nucleus of an atom just as planets orbit around the nucleus of our solar system, which is the sun). Does this mean that our solar system evolved from an atom? Can you think of some ways in which airplanes are similar to birds? Does this mean that airplanes evolved from birds?

sumira, Y! Answers 61 Comments [12/25/2008 3:01:45 AM]
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Submitted By: atrasicarius

Quote# 54875

Queerdom has always been banned. We're not banning it, they're decriminalizing it, and people need to stop falling for this false premise. What he's really suggesting is that the constitution, the system of law, and our very form of government, be invalidated. The people are just too stupid to know it.

And stupid people can't be free.

CONSERVATIVE HERO, Free Conservatives 44 Comments [12/26/2008 2:33:55 AM]
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Quote# 141161

Pakistan province bans males from all-girl schools

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province’s chief minister has banned males from going into female educational institutions across the region

A province in Pakistan that was once a Taliban stronghold has placed restrictions on gender integration in educational institutions and banned males from working with female students.

On Sunday, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province’s chief minister Mahmood Khan enforced an Islamic ethos by banning males from entering female educational institutions across the province. He also restricted all male guests and banned media coverage at events at girls’ schools.

Ziauddin Yousafzai, the father of Nobel laurate Malala Yousafzai, tweeted: “Dear PM @ImranKhanPTI, Is this the “Change” and “Naya {new} Pakistan” you promised us? Institutionalization of Talibanization?! “No male minister, MNAs, MPAs & officers shall be invited to the girls’ schools as Chief Guests. Entry … strictly banned”

Liberals, academics and moderates criticized the bans, saying the move was politically motivated to appease religious forces amid the fast depleting popularity of the government.

“Religion is a tool that Pakistani politicians use frequently to further their ambitions and just as often to cover up for their financial or other crimes. The out-of-the-blue announcement by KP’s chief minister banning males from entering all-girls’ schools is certainly despicable and stupid,” Pervez Hoodbhoy, a Pakistani nuclear physicist, activist, columnist and a distinguished professor at the Forman Christian College and the Quaid-e-Azam University told Asia Times.

He said it left one wondering what had motivated the chief minister.

“Is the man just a run-of-the-mill fanatic who thinks women should never be seen or heard or is his newfound holiness connected with his dubious past?” he asked. He recalled that in 2014 the Peshawar High Court had removed him from the position of provincial minister on charges of embezzlement and corruption.

“Unfortunately crookedness and professed piety are known to get along famously well in Islamic Pakistan,” he added.

Chief Minister Mahmood Khan, while banning gender integration in girls’ schools, also directed the education department to discourage the publicity of social, literary, sports and annual day activities of female students on social and mainstream media.

By doing so, he claimed, girls would get an education “in the true spirit of social, culture and Islamic values” in the province. The advisor to the chief minister, Zia Ullah Khan Bangash, who passed on the chief executive’s instructions, was not available for comment despite Asia Times’ repeated attempts.

“The founding father, Muhammad Ali Jinnah, had no qualms in involving his sister Fathma Jinnah in the political struggle for Pakistan in 1947 and his party men used to honor her as a colleague without gender discrimination,” Pakistan Muslim League (Nawaz) senator Pervaiz Rasheed told Asia Times.

He said Jinnah’s ideology and vision needed to be followed. Jinnah, he pointed out, always stood for gender, racial, sectarian and linguistic integration.

“Every citizen irrespective of his or her sexual categorization has equal rights and obligations. The constitution does not allow discrimination because of sex, creed, sect, color, language and race,” the veteran politician said.

PTI chairperson Imran Khan, who is known to be soft on the Taliban, demanded reproachment with the Islamist group and called for the provision of offices in Pakistan for their leadership. Khan’s opponents, including the leader of the right-wing nationalist Awami National Party (ANP), called him “Taliban Khan.”

The spokesperson for the ANP, Zahid Khan, when contacted by Asia Times asked what else could be expected from a man who was an ardent supporter of the Taliban.

A senior government official, who asked not be identified, said the ban on the entry of males at girls’ schools was initially enforced at the primary and middle level. It will be extended to the higher level once the order is fully implemented and the system is purged of “un-Islamic tenets.”

The chief minister, he said, instructed the province’s education department that “the schools should invite female dignitaries as chief guests in the sports and other functions.”

Unlike the general perception in educated and liberal circles, which do not see eye to eye with the provincial government on the gender discrimination issue, the lower middle class, whose children study in government schools, are quite content with the order.

“It’s a very good decision and hopefully our girls would be feeling more secure and happy now,” said Muhammad Aslam, who runs a grocery shop in the Tehkal area of Peshawar. Two of his daughters were studying at a local girls’ primary school.

Firdous Khan works in a shop on the main road in Peshawar city and has two daughters going to school. He said the ban would benefit the school-going girls as they would get more freedom to participate in the functions and sports events.

“One should realize that CM instructions would help preserve the KP-specific cultural and religious values,” he said.

Chief Minister Mahmood Khan, Asia Times 8 Comments [11/4/2018 1:39:54 PM]
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Quote# 141015

Yeah, unless you were drugged/spiked somehow without your consent and can prove as much you really have no grounds to call rape.

Again, personal accountability is always in play when you're making these choices to get drunk, high, etc. If what results of that wasn't what you wanted because you were too out of your mind to say 'no' or to think better of the situation, that is ultimately, still your fault. Sorry.

I've got no mercy nor sympathy for anyone on this matter. Get your shit together

Rudol Von Stroheim , mmo champion 18 Comments [11/4/2018 11:39:10 AM]
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Quote# 141146

One of the most evil aspects of Nazi ideology was the dehumanization of its opponents: the Jews, communists, Poles, Gypsies, gays and so forth. It was a necessary precondition, psychologically, for what ultimately became mass murder.

But it takes other forms, too, that are harder to spot. We may use them ourselves occasionally in considering political opponents and not even realize it. The effect, though, is no less dehumanizing.

A very recent example of the dehumanization of conservatives came against Sen. Ted Cruz, who was confronted by activist Tammy Talpas over his support for repealing Obamacare, “If you force me into a high-risk pool, you will either bankrupt me or kill me. I take these threats of medical aggression personally and seriously, and I can assure you I’m not the only Texan who does. My question is: Will you pledge to submit to a DNA test to prove that you’re human?”

The implication, of course, is that if you support repealing Obamacare, you lack human compassion. You’re less than human.

This is a rather mild form, yet still pretty common, of dehumanization tactics by the left.

It has also been used to legitimize forms of political violence. U.S. Senator Kamala Harris (D-Calif.), said to be a serious contender for the Democratic nomination in 2020, when asked a silly question by Ellen DeGeneres on television of who she’d rather be stuck in an elevator with, President Trump, Attorney General Jeff Sessions or Vice President Mike Pence, joked, “Does one of us have to come out alive?”

Now potential political violence against the President and those in his administration has become a punchline on daytime talk shows.

Last year, other forms of political violence described against the President included portraying the assassination of President Donald Trump in Shakespeare’s “Julius Caesar,” or Kathy Griffin’s depicted decapitation of Trump.

President Trump himself has been repeatedly portrayed as a modern-day Hitler. If you support him, you must be a Nazi. “Dilbert” creator Scott Adams has written often on the dangers of this Hitlerization of our politics.

The “punch a Nazi” campaign itself was a somewhat ironic twist of history, insofar as the dehumanizing tactic since World War II has become to portray one’s opponents as Nazi monsters, in this case Trump supporters, who are similarly bereft of the right to live without fear of violence.

To be clear, neither Trump nor his supporters are Nazis. They are being portrayed as Nazis by the left, which makes it easier, psychologically, to deck one on the street.

Ask yourself: Do you own a “Make America Great Again” hat? Would you think twice before putting it on and walking down a city street today? If you answer the latter in the affirmative, congratulations, you too are a victim of political intimidation.

There is little wonder why this demonization led to violent riots in San Jose and Chicago during the election campaign with Trump supporters being physically assaulted. Then there was the attempted assassination of U.S. Rep. Steve Scalise, Sen. Rand Paul and other Republicans at a Congressional baseball game practice in June 2017 by James Hodgkinson, a radicalized nut who thought President Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election.

This dehumanization also legitimizes using the color of law to prosecute one’s political opponents, for example with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s prosecution of Trump campaign officials as somehow being foreign agents in league with Russia.

In a recent Saturday Night Live skit portraying Mueller, Becca K. played by Cecily Strong, representing Democrats, is devastated to learn that President Donald Trump might not be prosecuted by Mueller. But, Kate McKinnon, depicting Mueller, offers a consolation prize: “If it makes you feel any better, the Kush is cooked,” referring to the President’s son-in-law Jared Kushner as potentially being the target of prosecution.

In short, they might not be able to get the President, but destroying the First Family will have to do. That’ll show him and everyone else what the consequences of opposition are.

Similarly, any communication by Trump with Russia — principal among the President’s Article II constitutional power to conduct foreign affairs — is viewed as tantamount to treason. This has manifested itself even at the White House, where almost every diplomatic visit or call with Russia instantly leaks and then is criminalized by media outlets.

Most recently President Trump’s conversation with Russian President Vladimir Putin calling for talks on preventing another nuclear arms race — you know, which might prevent a nuclear war — was leaked and again used to portray the President as a foreign agent. This, despite a long history of American presidents since John F. Kennedy and Nikita Khrushchev installed the red telephone after the Cuban Missile Crisis, who engaged with talks with Russia first on strategic arms limitations and then eventually, reductions.

Elsewhere, this dehumanization has resulted in opponents of gun control measures — which really amount to gun confiscation — by the March for our Lives movement being accused of complicity in the murdering of children by Nikolas Cruz. Surviving Parkland student Cameron Kasky told Sen. Marco Rubio, at the CNN forum on Feb. 21, “Senator Rubio, it’s hard to look at you and not look down the barrel of an AR-15 and not look at Nikolas Cruz.” Disagree with them, and you support mass murder. You’re an accomplice.

The dehumanization of the opposition can even be used to delegitimize reasonable discourse itself. There was the push to “unfriend” Trump supporters on Facebook. Actor Robert De Niro’s reaction to the success of the new Roseanne show, said to be pro-Trump (perhaps insofar as it’s not anti-Trump), was to suggest it wasn’t worth discussing, “We’re at a point … where it’s beyond trying to see another person’s point of view.”

In 2016, De Niro blatantly used the dehumanizing tactic, calling Trump a “dog” who he’d like to “punch in the face.”

Mind you, this is not merely about the animalization of the opposition, portraying opponents in the guise of animals or other creatures, often quite common for example in political cartoons. That’s not what we’re talking about here.

When combined with some of the other elements described above, fed by a genuine belief that the opponent truly is less than human, then yes, the animalization of political enemies — which was absolutely used by the Nazis — can become a potent weapon. Couple it with, say, a call to violence or use it to portray entire groups or races of people as subhuman, and you’ve probably crossed that line.

That’s plenty of examples. They are by no means exhaustive. And dehumanization is not merely the province of the left, but recently it has become increasingly prevalent with gathering support in the mainstream.

It should be alarming.

But it isn’t.

The Ted Cruz story where he’s supposed to take a DNA test to prove he’s human was shared tens of thousands of times as it was reported across media outlets almost as an afterthought. Maybe you saw it on your Facebook feed this week. It’s just a joke, right?

The question perhaps we should ask is what impact this might be having on the nation at large? Because it appears that it is really beginning to take its toll.

Recall, not only can dehumanization be used to legitimize political violence, in its most extreme form, in Germany, after years of endless state-run propaganda, it was channeled toward the destruction of millions of people.

Right now, we’re clearly not there yet in this country. But when one half of the nation starts to believe the other half is no longer worthy of rights or even basic respect, the country is in trouble.

There are consequences for this tactic, which on the surface may appear to simply serve a partisan agenda. Something to agitate supporters in preparation of the next round of elections. But underneath, it seems to bear all the hallmarks of pure hatred. This is not how you win elections. It’s how you create social discord.

The real danger is that this demonization of Trump, his supporters, conservatives and others is that it could be generating true believers, who no longer see their opponents as fellow Americans — and perhaps not even from the same species.

Robert Romano, Tennessee Star 16 Comments [11/4/2018 1:19:17 PM]
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Quote# 54719

I believe the majority of Darwinist arguments are based on lack of Testability, Observability and Conceptual Falsifiability.

Darwinism is the blind faith that there is no Design.

You guys just close your eyes and pray its all by chance.

BreshiBaraElohim, Youtube 39 Comments [12/23/2008 11:08:31 PM]
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Quote# 54933

The existance of DNA alone is proof of Intelligent Design. DNA is information (instructions) on how to build and operate every part of a CREATure. Information comes only from intelligence. Nature doesn't produce information. There's no known example of information arising by natural means. It does not happen, and you can't cite an example because none exists. Furthermore, DNA's information packed with algorythms.? Nature does not produce algorythms either! Only an intelligent agent can do so!

NephilimFree, Youtube 46 Comments [12/24/2008 3:18:04 AM]
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