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Quote# 141934

Was slavery a good thing?

A problem with civilisation is that in the normal course of events a few people end up owning all the wealth while the rest starve. Suppose the currency in a given region is gold and you have a lot of gold. You will be able to loan your gold at interest since most ventures will require start-up gold. Hence you will get richer while the rest of society gets collectively poorer. Eventually you will have all the gold and everyone else will have none. Hence there needs to be some kind of redistribution system from the haves to the have nots. There are a couple of problems that tend to arise though. If you allow the plebs to vote themselves unlimited free stuff they will tend to bring about failed communist states like Zimbabwe and Venezuela and giving people unconditional free stuff tends to turn them into useless degenerates. Therefore you need a good mechanism for redistributing wealth.

One such mechanism is slavery. The slaves could be kept in line by their owners who would be prepared to spend more money on their upkeep than they would on rented laborers due to pride of ownership. Although chattel slave labor is less efficient than wage slave labor in most contexts, perhaps we should look at restoring chattel slavery.

Cornfed, Happier Abroad 16 Comments [1/10/2019 10:13:26 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 141941

You can't be a Bible Believing CHRISTIAN and think think that sin is an acceptable LIFESTYLE

Sin should be avoided not accepted.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

The Truth, Facebook 3 Comments [1/13/2019 11:32:47 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 141942

Everybody wants to go to Heaven but nobody want Jesus, don't nobody want Hell, but people always sin...

The Truth, Facebook 5 Comments [1/13/2019 11:33:02 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 26586

You know you can get pregnant in different ways without knowing it, am sure ou know that just using a ceritan kind of medcine can get you preg...I only know that from a kid in my class...

John_Deere_Rox, CBH 95 Comments [6/20/2007 12:20:52 PM]
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Quote# 141924

Tarrant county Republicans in Texas will vote Thursday on an effort by a faction to remove their vice chairman, Shahid Shafi, because he's Muslim.

Fort Worth is the largest city in Tarrant county.

The campaign against Shafi, a trauma surgeon and member of the Southlake City Council, was mounted by a small group of Republicans led by Dorrie O'Brien, a precinct chairman from Grand Prairie.

O’Brien writes on Facebook that she “never doubted” her side has the votes to remove Shafi from his post.

“We don’t think he’s suitable as a practicing Muslim to be vice chair because he’d be the representative for ALL Republicans in Tarrant County, and not ALL Republicans in Tarrant County think Islam is safe or acceptable, O'Brien wrote on Facebook, adding that "there are big questions surrounding exactly where Dr. Shafi’s loyalties lie, vis a vis Democrat and Republican policies.”

O’Brien says her effort to oust Shafi is not about his religion, but whether he supports Islam or is connected “to Islamic terror groups,” according to the Star-Telegram.

Tarrant County Republicans, USA Today 25 Comments [1/10/2019 10:02:38 AM]
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Submitted By: Doubting Thomas

Quote# 57941

IUD as well as the morning after pill are not rights! We live in a country of FREEDOM of Religious beliefs, Correct? I am a pharmacist and took an oath to CARE and PROTECT, not kill the unborn. I support the Nurse as caring for her patient and the right of the unborn. I did not sign up to be an ABORTIONIST when receiving my pharmacy degree, as I am sure this nurse did not as well! She can educate the patient to NFP, the NATURAL way for all of you environmentalists!!! It's uninvasive and purely natural!

Anonymous, RHRC 47 Comments [2/6/2009 6:54:10 PM]
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Quote# 96398

we have “Neanderthalic” jews drinking the blood of “pure” Aryan boys (pre pubeset) for the “soul power” it affords, and ability to “see into the future.”

It is always with the “boys” I guess they believe they contain “more power.” In the story of “Sodom and Gommorah” the (probably “Neanderthalic” looking) Canaanites insisted it would be males, even though Lot offered his daughters.

Your semen obviously contains part of your spirit in it, in order to go into the woman and pass onto to the baby.

To be graphic

The reason jews always do the “money shot” in their movies, and the reason sex is almost always used in “demonic ceremonies” is that, if it doesn’t go to the woman, they believe would “enriche” sort on “spirits” lurking around instead…or at least attract or “invite” a worse “intruder”

[...]

This is why a sexual violation is referred to as a “spiritual violation.” Every “pollution of semen” is said to feed a demon.

The Original “spiritual violator” was “Canaan” he sexually violated his “Aryan” Grandad “Noah” on the Ark, who was said to be be “pure in his generation” (pure in his ancestry and in his pure soul power) in order to “assertain” some of that spiritual power for himself. Noah of course incensed at the nasty little mud, made him a “slave of slaves.” believing his “spiritual violation” and “polluting act” would degenerage Noah and his own powers.

[...]

This is probably what the “inside joke” is, at the end of “Trading Places.” when he is put in a gorilla suit, enjoined with, and being sent to a worse world together with, like what happens when 2 faggots get together. And must have been “revenge” for calling them a bunch of “weirdos” as jews have probably been called for the past 5 millennia… due to their “strange practices”

It can be argued that “Canaan” was a “demonic plant” or a demonic emergence from without in Noah’s “pure” ancestry.

truecolors, The Jews 43 Comments [9/6/2013 3:13:09 AM]
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Quote# 141912

BLM are terrorists!

(Like Christian abortion clinic bombers?)

No, those are noble warriors for God

Brendan Doll, Facebook 16 Comments [1/9/2019 4:55:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Winston Jen

Quote# 139423

Been reading the anti incel propaganda.

This shit is heartless and most article are written with ignorant conformity. They write so much about how we're all planning mass murders and rapes, meanwhile as all incels know, such posts are rare and almost always shitposting. I have yet to see a genuine threat of anything on any incel wbesite, and to find things that "rape Stacy" and "kill roasties" you would have to go through a couple pages and even then we're talking about shit that could only be taken seriously by a very old person or someone who is mentally disabled. The "entitlement to sex" bullshit needs to stop too. Roasties are the ones act entitled to sex, that's why they have reduced men to live their lives as disposable objects or varying degrees of worth. Imagine if a man could find the love of his life by simply choosing from thousands of images is a human being catalog, that would be "sexist" and "objectifying women"... Yet this is how they choose sex partners. It's retarded, incel mean involuntarily celibate, that's literally what it means, it means my mother didn't have the best genetics and is very unhealthy, it means that I was in her womb she did not pay close enough attention to her diet and what chemicals she was consuming... I am nothing more than a miscarriage who's heart is still beating, that is what being an incel really is, it's not an ideology or political movement... It's men, often from poverty infested, disease ridden, peasant families who were never worth a shit who have realized that they are too ugly to experience love, and too ugly to socialize with the rest of the world. Being incel isn't about wanting to commit mass acts of violence at all, in fact, it's more about looking at your face in the mirror, knowing how worthless your life is, and walking out the door HOPING to be the victim of a mass shooting. Incels would actually be the "hERos" of mass shootings because we would eagerly jump in the way of those bullets to end our misery instead of allowing those bullets to be wasted on happy normies who don't deserve a life exit like us. If such a thing happened though, they would just hire a Chad crisis actor and cover up the incel part of the story... These journalist writing about us, it's like insulting the rotting bones at the bottom of a dakhma. I don't even want a woman,I just want to fix my ugliness so I don't have to stress about it anymore

Sparrow's Song, incels.me 5 Comments [1/13/2019 3:54:24 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 141927

Not only do homosexuals commit pedophilia at 16x the rate of straights, they are responsible for 55% of new AIDS cases each year. A very small segment of our population is responsible for wildly disproportionate rates of pedophilia and AIDS. And yet they are still protected by PC.
Yes, I know the prog/libs will consider this post as "Hate Speech" but it is the truth.
Source: US CDC.

Endangered, Rapture Forums 14 Comments [1/10/2019 10:05:44 AM]
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Quote# 141936

God avoids GitHub. GitHub and all projects using Git are the property of Satan.

fschmidt, Reddit 20 Comments [1/10/2019 10:15:03 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 141909

"exploited beta providers"

I've been saying it for years, incel ideology is an SJW ideology. It's the same oppression olympics nonsense (you can read it in Elliot Rodger's manifesto too, it's practically an incel manifesto). This guy couldn't have made it more clear, he even uses the same buzzwords now.

They see women as an exploiter class and men as an oppressed class (similar to third wave feminism only in reverse).

You guys sad to say have a lot more in common than you think.

And of course Pharaoh Bastethotep himself is an admitted incel LOL. The reason he seems to be the only one constantly submitting these quotes is because he's trying hard to make you think he's one of the "good incels".

Such a transparent virtue signaler.

You're not fooling me buddy.

Anonymous, FSTDT comments 12 Comments [1/8/2019 3:32:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 113547

I love the illustration of standing on a chair to change a lightbulb. Even if I am 99% sure that the chair is too shaky and won't be able to support my entire weight, it is still nothing less than 100% faith if I stand upon the chair. Of course, in reality no one in their right mind would stand upon a shaky looking chair that they were convinced wouldn't support them. Albeit, it would still be 100% faith if I did choose to stand upon the chair unaided by a helper, rope or something to cling to in case I fall.

Please understand that optimism (a positive outlook) is NOT faith. I could stand there all day proclaiming how much I believe the chair will hold me up if I were to stand upon it. I can say loud and confidently, “I believe! Boy, brother, you've just got to believe! I believe that this chair can hold me up!” But that is NOT faith at all, not even in the least, because I am not standing upon the chair. So even in the presence of great optimism, I can have no faith at all. That's what Modernists and Roman Catholics have, that is, they really think they're going to Heaven, but they've never trusted Christ. Catholics instead trust their church and the seven sacraments to save them. Modernists trust their humanism, self-righteous works and new age spiritism.

In sharp contrast, the Biblical Christian rests completely in the finished redemptive work of Jesus Christ, standing upon the chair (which pictures Christ in our example). Saying you believe that Christ can save you is not faith, anymore than saying you think the chair can support your weight is trust in the chair. Even if you have 99% doubt in the Bible, God will save you if you'll believe the gospel. That is, if you'll personally receive Christ's death upon the cross, His burial and bodily resurrection from the dead as payment for your sins, you will be saved.

All mankind are sinners. As such we are all under the condemnation of God's law. There is a price for sin that we all owe to God. That price is spending eternity burning in the Lake of Fire! Consequently, we need to find someone who doesn't owe that price, someone who is not condemned, someone who can pay that price for us. Blessed be the name of the Lord, Jesus is the Christ Who paid the price for our sins with His own blood! Jesus was miraculously born of a virgin, lived a totally sinless life, and was accepted by God the Father as a well-pleasing sacrifice for the sins of the world. JESUS PAID THE PRICE!

Romans 4:5-6, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works.” Notice that we just read a man's “faith is counted for righteousness.” That is so important to understand. It means that all the heretics requiring intent to reform as part of salvation are liars, wrong and false prophets! This includes Aiden Tozer, John MacArthur, Jack Chick, David Cloud, William Lane Craig, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Benny Hinn, Eric Hovind, Paul Taylor and thousands more. Jesus is Lord, you don't make Him Lord! You simply trust Jesus to be saved.

David J. Stewart, God Loves People 31 Comments [10/13/2015 3:26:01 AM]
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Quote# 141926

Honestly if anyone says this I automatically know they either haven't read genesis or are bold faced lying. The bible says plants were made the day before the sun and birds were made before land animals, and that the earth is older than all of the stars. No evolutionist I know has ever made any of those claims. It is always that the order is sun>earth>plants>ocean animals>land animals> birds

The bible says the order is earth>plants>sun>ocean animals=birds>land animals.

From a standpoint of literal ages it just doesn't make sense, so the next thing is to allegorize it or to say it is picked up from folklore in the area. Of course you don't have to perform the mental gymnastics if you take God's word at face value

Salluz, Rapture Forums 18 Comments [1/10/2019 10:05:39 AM]
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Quote# 141923

Poor England. Looking forward to the past that is not coming back.
The fish rots from the head, and so are the English. King Farooq of Egypt in 1952, who upon being deposed by Nasser quipped:

“ .. In the end there will be only 5 kings left in the world: Four in the deck of cards, and one in England."

And all five of them, equally worthless.

In 4 centuries from Elizabeth to Elizabeth, England went from sublime to ridiculous, from the Queen of Shakespeare - ascendant, humane, progressive, opening to the world, to today Elizabeth when Scots want out, and English to exit Europe in self-doubt and self-pity, turning inwards.

Elizabeth I was vivacious, flirtatious, supremely feminine, powerful, Elizabeth II is staid, robotic, manly, heartless, pesty, having driven the real nobility, the people’s Queen Diana to her early fate.

One day some 25 years ago I was visiting my late mother in an ex-British Colony watching the Queen on TV. “I pity this woman”, said my mother, with a mix of empathy and scorn, recalling the trouble this Queen's wayward children were putting her through. From then on I felt a kind of reverence for my mother as never before, and a newfound confidence. With a mother like mine now it will be not me who blinks first before a Royalist. England was cooked, nay fried. I was right.

The 20th century was defined by Anglos - USA and UK - divide and rule. Today. both have bit dust. Tomorrow is defined by unification - of Asia, Africa, and continental Europe in one land mass common market. UK, USA, Japan, Austalia are distant islands unconnected with action.

The days of sea are gone (except for commodities). It takes 45-60 days to ship products from China to Europe. BRI plans to cut this to 34 hours - high speed trains at 250 km/hr. The English can build all the bases they can to no use. Who needs snail paced sea lanes? The Anglos have not only lost their colonies and influence, they have lost their minds.

Lament for a people who ruled the world for 250 years.

If you are so smart to make all these comments, why did you choose to come to Canada, take an oath to Elizabeth I, earn your bread and spew your B.S? Why don't you return to your debt ridden , Mullah driven country?


Perry Kamath, Greetings

Muslims are populating the earth everywhere for the same reason Europeans came to America. Opportunity.

400 years ago Europeans found a violent cruel people on the verge of extinction, so they took over. Today, the Corporate Capitalist West is below replenishment with a wasteful unsustainable lifestyle for the same reasons. Tomorrow when you are gone we and our children will populate this land.

Remember, you may think that Germany is for Germans, Brazil for Brazilians, but Allah gave the entire universe to us. Do you mind? Enjoy the party while it lasts.

Syed Fazal Abbas, Asia Times 6 Comments [1/10/2019 10:02:30 AM]
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Quote# 141905

THE 23 (XXIII) POPES NAMED JOHN

THE APOSTOLIC SUCCESSION FROM SAINT PETER IS NOW GONE WITH THE WIND! (DANIEL 2:35).

The first Pope to change his name and adopt a throne name was Pope John II in 533. 2 cardinals named Peter changed their names to John because they knew that Saint John was the true successor of Christ . . . and not Saint Peter!

In reality, there have been 24 Popes named John. Pisan Pope John XXIII (1410–1415) has been deleted from the list of Popes . . . so that leaves 23.

The Cathedral of the Most Holy Saviour and of Saints John the Baptist and the Evangelist in the Lateran, (Italian: Santissimo Salvatore e Santi Giovannit Battista ed Evangelista in Laterano).

Even though the Basilica is located on Italian soil, it is still under the jurisdiction of Vatican City State!

It is a real mystery how Mystery Babylon changed the Messiah's name, yet named 24 Popes after his successor!

It is beyond belief that 24 Popes named themselves after the Apostle John the Beloved, who exposed the Legs of Iron, and the feet and toes of Iron and Clay, on every page of the Apocalypse!

Patrick Scrivener, Reformation 5 Comments [1/8/2019 3:30:06 PM]
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Submitted By: Jacob Harrison

Quote# 141906

A Mob Of Pro-Brexit Protesters Called Pro-Remain MP Anna Soubry A “Nazi” During A TV Interview

This is the latest incident to involve abuse hurled at Brexit-sceptic politicians and journalists outside the houses of parliament in the last few weeks.

Conservative MP Anna Soubry, a passionate opponent of Brexit, was forced to stop midway through a TV interview on Monday as a crowd of pro-Brexit supporters jeered “Soubry is a Nazi”.

Soubry was appearing live on the BBC News Channel, speaking to host Simon McCoy when the football terrace–style chant began.

As it grew in volume, Soubry stopped halfway through a sentence and said: “I do object to being called a Nazi, actually. I just think this astonishing, this is what has happened to our country. Anyway, let’s try and move on and be positive about things.”

Soubry, who has been publicly harangued by pro-Brexit protesters before, called on the police to “do their job” after the incident.

BuzzFeed News reported in December that broadcasters have hired private security firms for their broadcasts outside parliament, such is the threat from protesters.

Some of the protesters were wearing yellow vests, a symbol of anti-establishment protests in France that has since been adopted by nationalist, right-wing groups in Britain.

And according to this footage, after the interview the same protesters then followed Soubry, continuing to harass and abuse her as she made her way back to parliament.

Also on Monday, the pro-Corbyn columnist and activist Owen Jones was, not for the first time, accosted by what he described as Tommy Robinson supporters as he made his way through Westminster.

Labour MP Stephen Doughty brought up the Soubry incident in the House of Commons during a debate on Brexit.

“Mr Speaker, before I ask my question, can I draw your attention to some further serious events going on outside parliament today,” he said. “Intimidation, threats, potentially unlawful actions, targeting members of this house, members of the press, members of the public, and peaceful activists.

“Can I urge you to use your offices with the Metropolitan police at the highest level to ensure this is dealt with, it’s been repeatedly raised.”

Brexit secretary Stephen Barclay said he hadn’t seen the incident, but said that all MPs were aware of the fate of Jo Cox, the Labour MP who was murdered by a far-right terrorist in 2016.

“Anyone who stands at this despatch box is always mindful of the plaque of Jo Cox, which I know is so dear to many, particularly on the benches opposite, but across the house, and I think all of us would unite that wherever people are on the Brexit debate, is that all of us in this house should be able to air their views with respect.”

Commons speaker John Bercow later responded in the house: “I have been made aware of recent incidents involving aggressive and threatening behaviour towards members and others by assorted protesters who have donned the yellow vests used in France.”

“I am concerned at this stage, I say no more than that I am concerned at this stage, about what seems to be a pattern of protest targeted in particular — I don't say exclusively — but in particular at women.

“Female members, and in a number of cases I am advised female journalists, have been subjected to aggressive protest, and what many would regard as harassment. I can assure the house that I am keeping a close eye on events, and I will speak to those who advise me about these matters.”

As Stewart McDonald, SNP MP for Glasgow South, noted, this is all on the first day of the 2019 parliamentary session.

Brexit Mob, Buzzfeed 12 Comments [1/8/2019 3:30:34 PM]
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Quote# 58760

Although 1st Corinthians 6:9 is clearly condemning homosexuality and cross-dressing, it is also equally clear that any form of femininity in a man is sinful. This is why Deuteronomy 22:5 condemns men wearing women's apparel. Clearly, it is not acceptable for men to wear women's clothing. Men are to be men! Men should talk like men, dress like men, walk like men, and act like men. Kilts on men are sissyish. Although a man wearing a kilt may be tough, the skirt makes him look silly and foolish. Although most men who wear kilts aren't gay, it makes one wonder why any man would ever want to wear clothing that is considered women's apparel by 99% of the population. A quick look at any bathroom door will quickly reveal that men wear pants, and women wear dresses.

Jesus said in Matthew 11:8, "But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses." John the Baptist was rugged, as a man should be. The men who lived in the palace wore "soft" clothing, i.e., they didn't look or act like REAL MEN. I've never seen a construction worker wearing a kilt. I've never seen a truck mechanic or a coal miner wearing a kilt. I only see men with clean jobs, or playing bagpipes, wearing kilts. Kilts are for men in the palace, not for John the Baptist type men ... real men!

David J. Stewart, Jesus is savior 145 Comments [2/11/2009 4:51:04 PM]
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Submitted By: Nameless

Quote# 126102

[Comment under "The Complicity of FTTs in the harming of women"]

Its complicated, and for me, personal.

She, my daughter is both victim and complicit. Wrapped up in my own flesh and blood. Who I have known from before her birth. Who we have cared for and fed all her life. Who I have cleaned shit and puke off, waited endless hours in hospitals for, bought clothes, toiletries and towels for.

I can empathise with why she has made her choices, how she can't stand alone against the misogyny and homophobia of society, how every org and social group that should be telling her shes fine as what she is, is telling her that its just so much better to trans and how being a lesbian or even a GNC straight woman who isn't gagging to poked, is just so uncool and transphobic.

But I hate the ideology that led her there and I hate it still when she repeats it. Sometimes is really hard not to hate her.

GenderCriticalDad, Reddit - r/GenderCritical 10 Comments [4/8/2017 5:01:26 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 8966

Sure, the [birth control] hormones in birth control lower the risk of ovarian cancer, which is, at this time, undetectable, but I've read reports that the estrogen in it raise the risk of breast cancer. Personally, I'm not going to take something that lowers the risk of one type of cancer while raising the risk of another type. I'll take my chances with natural family planning (which is NOT the rhythm method) and my family history of neither types of cancer. Also, the pill is only 99% effective if taken at the EXACT same time every day, and I don't know any teenager that's capable of that (in the case of Jerusha_Girl.) I disagree with your want to take your daughter to family planning the day she gets her period so much, it's not even funny. It's as if you're saying, "You're a woman now, go have sex!"

firstkid4me, Christian Forums 14 Comments [1/11/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 141886

India outcry after scientists claim ancient Hindus invented stem cell research

The organisers of a major Indian science conference said they were concerned by speakers citing religious texts and ideas at the event

The organisers of a major Indian science conference distanced themselves on Sunday from speakers who used the prestigious event to dismiss Einstein’s discoveries and claim ancient Hindus invented stem cell research.

The Indian Scientific Congress Association expressed “serious concern” as the unorthodox remarks aired by prominent academics at its annual conference attracted condemnation and ridicule.

The distinguished gathering of Indian researchers and scientists, which was held over the weekend, hosts Nobel laureates, but in recent years has seen Hindu faith-based theories edging onto the agenda.

At this year’s congress, the head of a southern Indian university cited an ancient Hindu text as proof that stem cell research was discovered on the subcontinent thousands of years ago.

“We had 100 Kauravas from one mother because of stem cell and test tube technology,” said G. Nageshwar Rao, vice chancellor at Andhra University, referring to a story from the Hindu epic Mahabharata.

Rao, who was addressing school children and scientists at the event, also said a demon king from another centuries-old Hindu epic had two dozen aircraft and a network of landing strips in modern-day Sri Lanka.

“Hindu Lord Vishnu used guided missiles known as ‘Vishnu Chakra’ and chased moving targets,” added the professor of inorganic chemistry.

Event organisers tried to hose down the remarks, saying it was “unfortunate” the prestigious event had been derailed by controversy.

“We don’t subscribe to their views and distance ourselves from their comments. This is unfortunate,” said Premendu P Mathur, general secretary of Indian Scientific Congress Association.

“There is a serious concern about such kind of utterances by responsible people.”

Another speaker, a scientist from a university in southern Tamil Nadu state, also raised eyebrows by questioning the breakthroughs of Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein.

India is no stranger to prominent figures citing ancient Hindu texts like the Puranas and Vedas as ironclad evidence of the country’s technological prowess.

India’s minister for higher education Satyapal Singh last year said Darwin’s theory of evolution was wrong, and vowed to change the national school curriculum to reflect that.
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The minister hails from the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), which rules 17 of India’s 29 states and territories outright or through alliances.

BJP leader and prime minister Narendra Modi in 2015 pointed to Hindu scriptures as proof that plastic surgery existed in ancient India.

Science minister Harsh Vardhan last year said ancient Greeks took credit from India for early mathematical principles and misquoted Stephen Hawking as praising the Vedas for discoveries greater than Einstein’s theory of relativity.

The Breakthrough Science Society, an Indian-based educational charity, said it was “astounded and even horrified” at the remarks made at an academic summit.

“Puranic verses and epics are poetic, enjoyable, contain moral elements and [are] rich in imagination but [are] not scientifically constructed or validated theories,” the group said in a statement Sunday.

“Such a hallowed assembly of scientists has been misused to make false and chauvinistic claims about ancient India.”

G. Nageshwar Rao and others, The Guardian 8 Comments [1/7/2019 5:31:59 AM]
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Quote# 141911

*Responding to a comment on David and Jonathan*

Oh look, another fool who thinks they were gay. Read this to learn.

http://coldcasechristianity.com/2012/were-david-and-jonathan-homosexual-lovers/

*Gets informed that historical King James himself may have been gay and gets a link about that*

More foolish nonsense. No doubt something random you pulled out a search engine to make your point.


Mark Jones, Religion News 11 Comments [1/9/2019 4:55:27 AM]
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Quote# 141918

I Hate Everyone

I was typing away on my computer, when my mother commented that I hated everyone.

The idea never actually occurred to me before. However, I realized I don't like a single person on this planet. I like my cat, I like my dog, and that's about it. I try to be a good person, do the right thing...

But everyone is just so selfish, self-absorbed, annoying to the extreme. I can't stand to be around people most of the time and listen to their tiny mundane concerns when really -- the whole world is pretty messed up and there are seriously more important problems than x, y, or z. Then it occurred to me. Is there a reason why I'm so nice to people who frankly don't deserve it? Why do I put up with people hugging me and shaking my hand, when really I wish them on the other side of the planet where they can't bother me or anyone else.

I claim to be "zen" without any hatred, but maybe I'm just deluding myself.

I look at history and I see so many places where we could have taken a different path ... and maybe this would better.

So, I guess I'm asking for a bit of advice. Am I misanthropic? Wikipedia is being so vague ...

Or do I need to go searching for some other explanation as to why I feel this way.

excentrykemuse, r/misanthropy 11 Comments [1/9/2019 11:44:01 AM]
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Submitted By: Pharaoh Bastethotep

Quote# 3366

OK, so what if the earth is billions of years old. So what? That doesn't prove evolution exists. Besides, in the Bible, it never states how long it was between the creation of man and the fall of man. It could have been billions of years. Civilizations like Atlantis could have existed in this period.

Aqua_Raptor, BlizzForums 11 Comments [6/1/2003 12:00:00 AM]
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Quote# 141922

China’s ambassador accuses Canada of ‘white supremacy’ in Huawei CFO arrest

Ambassador Lu Shaye wrote in an op-ed for an Ottawa-based paper that western countries are employing a ‘double standard’

China’s ambassador to Canada has accused the country of “white supremacy” in calling for the release of two Canadians detained in China last month.

The arrests were in apparent retaliation for the arrest of a top Chinese tech executive in Canada.

But Ambassador Lu Shaye said in an op-ed in the Ottawa-based Hill Times on Wednesday that western countries are employing a “double standard” in demanding the immediate release of the Canadians.

“The reason why some people are used to arrogantly adopting double standards is due to western egotism and white supremacy,” Lu wrote.

“What they have been doing is not showing respect for the rule of law, but mocking and trampling the rule of law.”

China detained Canadian ex-diplomat Michael Kovrig and entrepreneur Michael Spavor on 10 December 2018 on vague allegations of “engaging in activities that endanger the national security” of China.

The arrests came 10 days after Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Canada at the request of the US, which wants her extradited to face charges that she misled banks about the company’s business dealings in Iran. A Canadian judge granted Meng bail while she awaits extradition proceedings.

Le wrote that “elites” in Canada are completely dismissing China’s law by demanding the immediate release of the Canadians.

“It seems that, to some people, only Canadian citizens shall be treated in a humanitarian manner and their freedom deemed valuable, while Chinese people do not deserve that,” Lu said.

Lu also wrote that Meng was arrested without violating any Canadian law, suggesting that Canada should never detain someone for extradition.

Roland Paris, a former foreign policy adviser to Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau, called Lu’s claims “hogwash”.

“I don’t know what the ambassador was trying to accomplish but his article won’t help China’s cause,” Paris said.

Paris noted Canada is following extradition law while the Canadians were seized in China under suspicious circumstances and China has held them without charge.

Julian Ku, the senior associate dean for academic affairs at Hofstra Law, noted China has still not revealed any specific information about what Kovrig and Spavor are charged with and have not given them a judicial hearing and thus Canada is not wrong with calling the arrests arbitrary.

“I am struck by how brazen they are being by making this appeal,” Ku said. “He says: ‘You are being racist by not respecting our law.’ That’s an easy card to play.”

Lu also seemed to admit detaining the Canadians was in retaliation for the Meng arrest.

“I have recently heard a word repeatedly pronounced by some Canadians: bullying. They said that by arresting two Canadian citizens as retaliation for Canada’s detention of Meng, China was bullying Canada. To those people, China’s self-defence is an offence to Canada,” Lu wrote.

Alex Lawrence, a spokesman for Canadian foreign minister Chrystia Freeland, did not address Lu’s claims.

Huawei, whose billionaire founder Ren Zhengfei has long had ties with both the People’s Liberation Army and the Communist party, has faced national security concerns in multiple countries.

Huawei has been banned from involvement in the installation of 5G mobile networks in India, New Zealand and Australia, blocked from making acquisitions in the US and banned from selling phones on military bases by the Pentagon.

But, in his column, Lu dismissed such concerns and instead pointed to monitoring and spying programs carried out by the US National Security Agency and the Five Eyes alliance countries (Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK and the US).

“Something is considered as ‘safeguarding national security’ when it is done by western countries. But it is termed ‘conducting espionage’ when done by China. What’s the logic?” he wrote.

Lu Shaye, The Guardian 5 Comments [1/10/2019 10:02:01 AM]
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