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Quote# 134227

They didn't vote "'yes' for love"as the Prime Minister claims. They voted yes for sin, yes for darkness, yes for man's word over God's Word, yes for a perversion of the only true marriage God invented--one man for one woman (Genesis 1:27; Genesis 2:24)

Australia Votes ‘Yes’ on Same-Sex Marriage, Clearing Path for Legalization
More than 61 percent of voters in a nationwide mail-in survey supported the change, though the decision is up to Parliament.
nytimes.com


Ken Ham, Twitter 19 Comments [11/15/2017 11:46:32 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 134230

#How stupid do you have to be to say Christianity is bad but wanting to fuck children isn’t



Well, in that specific post I wasn’t saying that Christianity is bad (what it is, like all religions), I was just talking about how the whole concept of endless suffering is just disproportionate no matter what and it makes you questioning the moral values of people who support it and the god who punish people like that. Specially since if god was real determinism would be an obligated thing, there is no way out of that, what makes it even more unfair and just plain stupid. But that is a whole different topic, a discussion about theism and philosophy that I don’t think you are on the level for keeping. Also, I don’t have time for it right now (maybe i could write a post someday, however, who knows.)

But nah, I was talking about some specific theistic ideas, not making a statement about whole Christianity… But if you want one… Yeah, Christianity is bad. In fact, it is one of the worst ideologies that has ever been created. I think no one has so much dead people on their count. But anyways it doesn’t matter, religion discussion is not the topic.

About the second part of the sentence. No. Pedophiles don’t want to “fuck children”. When you say someone wants something you are adding will into it. Attraction lacks of volition. You can’t choose it. A pedophile just feels attracted towards some children, that only means they feel aroused by them, not that they *WANT* to have sex with that children. I talked about that here, anyways, I’m not repeating myself.

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All mental disorder s are natural so what we should celebrate bipolar


This only keeps going better haha Yeah, in fact, all diseases are natural, that is true! The natural thing is that people die from cancer or infections, medicine is a human invention that goes against nature. And I’m not being ironical, that is true. If you think a bit about it, illness is just a social construct. It is natural, we just choose that some things should be treated while we accept another ones as physiological/variations of normality. Criteria keep changing with time and you can see people fighting to get some things out of the disease classification (as autistic people, for example). But again, this is a whole different topic to discuss, it keeps seeming too complex for your level.

So yes, well, mental disorders are natural… But pedophilia IS NOT a disorder. It is a sexual orientation. The disorder needs to meet some criteria (distress or lack of self-control) to be taken like that. Info here, not repeating myself.

Also, bipolar doesn’t have anything to do with sexuality but ok…



Aleskakolja, Tumblr 5 Comments [11/15/2017 12:56:15 PM]
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Quote# 134254

Also let me add that you have no idea how trans people feel when they get misgendered or when they have to walk in their birth gender bathroom. It's humiliating to them because if they're mid transition they're not welcome in either bathroom. When I was at work using the bathroom a woman screamed at me to get out and called me a tr*nny and went to tell my manager. Do you understand how humiliating that shit is? No because you're not trans and you don't take your time to listen to trans voices


You brought that humilation upon yourself, YOU ARE NOT A WOMAN.

comradejordan, Tumblr 6 Comments [11/15/2017 11:09:38 PM]
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Submitted By: Daspletosaurus

Quote# 134193

[reply in thread titled "People against LGBT rights, what are the reasons you feel this way other than religious beliefs?"]

Bad for society due to lack of reproduction. I honestly would not have a problem with gay people if they acted like they used to. Get married, have a family, be normal, and maybe do gay shit on the weekends with the boys.

Another big problem I have is that homosexual acceptance, and the backlash of homophobia, has led to a world where male bonding is not really accepted like it used to be. Nowadays anytime two young men do something affectionate, they have to endure jeers from their friends about whether they are gay or not. Some of the young men may get so confused they start acting gay because everyone is saying they are gay. This didn't used to happen. Men should be able to effeminate sometimes without being accused of homosexuality. Like Liberace, he was super gay, but it was a massive surprise for people when he came out, this is how it should be. Sexuality should not be a defining factor of one's identity.


PlasticPill97, Reddit - r/AskReddit 21 Comments [11/14/2017 11:44:07 AM]
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Quote# 134259



Of course, Life goes on after death....even for those who think otherwise!!

We get reincarnated into other bodies and develop further...and when we are sufficiently developed, we become Free and stop reincarnating. That is real Freedom.....freedom from the sense of individuality that makes us self obsessed.

The entire Hindu, Jain and Buddhist philosophies are centered around this concept.

What evidence do we have? There are thousands of NDE's that indicate a life after death. Ian Stevenson has done significant research on reincarnation and found some evidence.

It also makes more sense than the 'food for bacteria' theory.....and ties in with our general tendency to become more and more loving, selfless and universal.

Sriram, Religion and Ethics 7 Comments [11/15/2017 11:15:39 PM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 126076

Leftists don't really want diversity themselves, this can be seen by the way leftists tend to live in ethnically homogeneous areas, although most of them still believe that diversity is a good thing and would still label anyone who criticised it as racist.
What proves this point is that the sort of places that leftists speak highly of and say how cultural and vibrant they are tend to be very ethnically homogeneous countries.
Leftists are most likely to say they much prefer Eastern European cities to Western European cities because they are so much more vibrant and interesting. The fact that these cities are almost entirely white doesn't seem to matter much to them.
You will find that it's cities like London, Paris, Rome, very ethnically mixed cities, that they would say they find the most boring and bland. It's Eastern Europe that is popular now with left wing travel journalists.
I wonder if even some white left wingers subconsciously want to live in an all white society too, but of course the UK is "diverse" so they aren't allowed to think that here, so they go to Eastern European countries where being white is the norm and they can enjoy being in an ethnically homogeneous society without being regarded as racist and bigoted.

Smashmarxism, Reddit 8 Comments [4/7/2017 7:21:58 AM]
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Quote# 134219

[Comments under "Here we go again. Polish Nationalist Youth March Draws Thousands in Capital. Crowd of mostly young people carries banners that read ‘Europe Will Be White’ and ‘Clean Blood’, and 'Pray for Islamic genocide'"]

@sebbyk:
@GreekCommnunist:
Ah crap in communist poland there wasnt sh&%'it like those.


Liberal: “that’s because communists sent everyone who disagreed with them to Siberia! Tens of thousands of Nazis marching is proof that Poland’s free now!”


From GreekCommnunist

I think that we would need to reopen the gulags for some liberals comrade!

GreekCommnunist and sebbyk, Reddit - r/communism 14 Comments [11/15/2017 6:09:18 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 60847

Leviathon is a spirit I have battled as well. It was a hard battle but was won. It was about four months or more ago. My wife and I were in McDonalds and were having a conversation with an angel and Leviathon had come up. I told the angel that i wanted to fight this demon and he said I could. On the way back to the hotel I asked the angel if he could bring the demon to a predestinated place and he said yes. I figured that since Leviathon was from the depths of the sea he would be used to the cold water so I filled the tub up with scalding hot water and blessed the water. The angels (there were two now) brought Leviathon bound to the tub and fought with me. We all pulled our swords from our hips and began running this demon through with all my strength and everything I had. I would say it took atleast half an hour or more. We were all spent but the battle was won.

nautical999, Ministering Deliverance 654 Comments [3/24/2009 9:03:36 PM]
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Submitted By: Comassion

Quote# 20730

I don't worship the same God as the Roman Catholics. My God is Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and God the Father. My God is not Allah

Before you ask what I mean by that...

The Roman Catholic Catechisms claim that Muslims and Catholics worship the same God. I don't worship the same God as a Muslim. They can if they want.

And here it is. Catechism 841
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day.

Wickedness. The Muslims DENY Jesus Christ. And if the Catholics worship the same God, they ALSO deny Jesus Christ.

Gideon, FSTDT Forums 40 Comments [2/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: David D.G.

Quote# 134241

There needs to be a relentless campaign against sitting liberals who support the change to marriage law in order to remove them from pre-selection and if not possible then to present an alternative candidate in the next election in each liberal/national electorate where this is the case. Turn Mr Turnbull's hairs completely white.

Lloyd Geldard, Facebook 3 Comments [11/15/2017 11:05:28 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134125

(=This is a comment on a Youtuber who was a former Flat Earther, and now devotes his Channel to debunking them=)

Ninja Man: Jeranism is as real and truthful as they come. The earth is flat and motionless so keep cheering for NASA and spreading free Masonic lies. We have heard it all before and are really not interested. People are waking up!?

B Robinson: What we have here folk is nice sellout shill.....sold out the whole human race for coins....Judas. The earth is flat and stationary, once are our eyes are open we are not going back, anyone that realizes the earth is flat and stationary does not go back to believe it is a spinning ball. You would have done better to just try to debunk the videos instead of pretending to be a flat earther than quitting....BIG SHILL GIVEAWAY.....You will pay for your shilldom, our Father the maker of the Flat Earth hates liars and he is angry with the wicked every day....?

Ninja Man & B Robinson, Youtube 1 Comments [11/13/2017 3:58:34 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 111810

QADIYA, Iraq — In the moments before he raped the 12-year-old girl, the Islamic State fighter took the time to explain that what he was about to do was not a sin. Because the preteen girl practiced a religion other than Islam, the Quran not only gave him the right to rape her — it condoned and encouraged it, he insisted.

He bound her hands and gagged her. Then he knelt beside the bed and prostrated himself in prayer before getting on top of her.

When it was over, he knelt to pray again, bookending the rape with acts of religious devotion.

“I kept telling him it hurts — please stop,” said the girl, whose body is so small an adult could circle her waist with two hands. “He told me that according to Islam he is allowed to rape an unbeliever. He said that by raping me, he is drawing closer to God,” she said in an interview alongside her family in a refugee camp here, to which she escaped after 11 months of captivity.

The systematic rape of women and girls from the Yazidi religious minority has become deeply enmeshed in the organization and the radical theology of the Islamic State in the year since the group announced it was reviving slavery as an institution. Interviews with 21 women and girls who recently escaped the Islamic State, as well as an examination of the group’s official communications, illuminate how the practice has been enshrined in the group’s core tenets.

Unnamed Islamic State member, New York Times 47 Comments [8/15/2015 10:24:30 AM]
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Submitted By: JeanP

Quote# 134210

The thing is that this "gender identity" nonsense is based on a theory of "inborn natural sexual roles" that would make the Victorians seem as flexible as acrobats. Do you like to dance? Why then you are a girl. Please ignore the number of men that have been dancers through out history. Do you like to build things? Why then you are a boy. Please ignore the women who have built and invented things in history.

Harmless Teddy Bear, Free Republic 8 Comments [11/14/2017 2:15:37 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134212

if i tie a string to a tree branch it hangs straight down. vertically. why is this? if the earth is rotating at 1,000mph, the rope should have a slight pitch caused by the earths rotation. if i take that same rope and hang it from my arm and hold still.. the rope also stays still... but if i try to move my arm at any speed, the rope is no longer vertical.

the end of the rope in my hand leads, the end closes to the ground trails behind it. theres no movement. simple as that. how about a helium baloon.. but one thats lost some of its helium so that it sits buoyant instead of rising...

if you have a string hanging from a helium baloon thats just floating. it stays in the same place... you cant observe the earths movement below it.. yet its not attached to anything. it just sits there... yet globers will use a pendulum as proof for the spinning ball earth.

Shawn Mcdonald, Facebook 12 Comments [11/14/2017 2:15:45 PM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134191

...only in the mind of alt-left lunatics who are willing to deceive, manipulate and flat out lie in their evil attempt to take down a conservative Christian. In fact, would you like to hear something funny? An insane, alt-left, Christophobe troll (that I've never met before) accused me of raping him. Check it out, alt-left lunacy on full display:



Crazy people (like the alt-left) do crazy stuff that doesn't make sense to sane people, like accusing a Christian conservative they've NEVER met of raping them because they can't accept disagreement. I speak from experience.
Edit: and that alt-left clown wonders why his lunacy isn't welcome in any decent community.

Lady Checkmate, Disqus - News Network 17 Comments [11/14/2017 9:18:31 AM]
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Submitted By: Jocasta

Quote# 20721

If you feel you married the wrong person, then you need to ask God to humble you. Anyone can live with anybody if they can learn to be a nobody.
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Let me also say, If Jesus was willing to be despised and rejected of men, beaten to a pulp, mistreated, scorned, assaulted, spit upon, and crucified to death ... FOR US ... then we should follow Christ's example when our spouse does the same things to us.

David J. Stewart, Jesus-is-Savior.com 97 Comments [2/15/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Doctor Whom

Quote# 20785

When I mentioned the maggots and radiation water, I didn't mean to say that science was always wrong. I meant that science is as inherently flawed as the people who pracitce it (which is a lot). The accuracy of science is limited to our limited knowlage. If science "proves" evolution, it could just mean that we havn't found the evidence required to disprove it. I admit this logic works in either direction.

But as for proof that evolution didn't happen, it isn't so much proof (It impossible to prove a negative) but pointing out some logical flaws. For example, if everything evolved by random mutation, it follows that we would see a bunch of failed species whose mutations didn't help them. You don't see any.
I admit their are new strains and breeds appearing, but that doesn't prove evolution of species. But even if evolution did happen, it means that God created evolution. The reason people champion evolution is because no better theory has yet arrived that leaves God out. It's not about science, it's about the elimination of God.


Sho-Re, NationStates Forum 43 Comments [2/16/2007 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Witty Name Here

Quote# 134205

The enemies of People's Korea like to claim that people are starving to death but it is the UK that has foodbanks and where the disabled starve to death .

Quote from the "Daily Mirror " 2015 "Disabled Mark Wood starved to death four months after he was found "fit to work" and his benefits were slashed.The “frail and vulnerable” 44-year-old weighed just 5st 8lbs when he was found."

UK Korean Friendship Association, Korean Friendship Association 7 Comments [11/15/2017 2:44:57 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 134201

(in response to a YouTube video titled "Three Reasons Gay Marriage Vote Will Fail #Australia")

What does gay marriage supporters and rapists have in common?
They won't take "no" for an answer.
What is the difference?
The rapist leaves after.

BlyndSDragon, YouTube comments 17 Comments [11/14/2017 11:56:05 AM]
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Submitted By: Chris

Quote# 134231

as a person who survived rape as a child with no justice served, fuck pedophiles, I hope they all get acid injected into their fucking bloodstream




Again, this, exactly this, is what I was talking about. What happened to you was terrible and no one deserves go through that. And I really really want this stops to happen, that no more children have to suffer like this. But what you are saying here won’t bring you peace or justice. That is revenge. But not only that. This is an attack to yourself and your own recovery. You are not hating your abuser, you are not even hating another abusers, you are full of pain and the way you are trying to take it out is by dehumanizing a group of people so you have someone to hurt to feel better. That is not right. That is abusive. That feeds your negative feelings and makes your pain stronger. There is a high chance that your abuser wasn’t even a pedophile, it is probably that the person who hurt you wasn’t even attracted to minors. And even if they were, they took their own decision. They abused you because they wanted to abuse you, not because they were a pedophile. I know it is hard to accept that someone, another human being, a person like you, can take such a terrible decision and hurting you by their own choice, but that is the truth. Don’t give abusers an excuse. They don’t hurt people because they feel a specific attraction. They don’t hurt people because they are subhuman monsters with black souls. They hurt people because they choose to do it (sometimes because they are ill and need treatment, but never for an attraction).

I know that dehumanization and hating of a group that you can identify with your abuser is a way to cope, tricking yourself into believe that “people can’t be so monstrous, therefore, the person who hurt me wasn’t human and everyone with this trait is not human either”, because it is easier think this that accept that human beings are able to cause so much pain. And if your abuser was someone you loved (like family) that makes it even worse. But this is not healthy. This is toxic, this feeds distortions and lock you up in a circle of anger, hate and constant reminder of your pain. You can’t heal while you keep hating. Every attack towards another people is an attack to yourself. You are not hating your abuser, you are not attacking them, you are not protecting children. You are attacking innocent people, you are ignoring what professionals say we should do to prevent CSA, you are hurting yourself and making your pain deeper. You won’t get justice like this. Only the day you stop to feel this hate and anger, the day you start to understand that not all pedophiles are abusers and not all abusers are pedophiles, only that day, you will find some peace and rest.

Do you want justice? You won’t get it by hating and attacking innocent people. The genocide of 350 millions of people won’t bring you any justice. If you want justice then help children to don’t be abused. Sadly, no one can change what happened to you, but we can stop it so no more children have to suffer like you did. We can’t change the past and revenge won’t help us to feel better. The only way to get justice is fighting so no one else has to feel like this, so no one else has to feel this pain and hate. CSA prevention is the justice you should seek. And genocide is not the way. I hope someday you can see it. For your own mental health. Try to be fine there. You are loved and you don’t deserve this pain. I understand you. I support you. And I really hope you can get better, be better.

Tags: #anon #anti community #anti map #anti pedophiles #map community #pedophilia #pro map anti hate csa cw: csa anti abuse anti csa answer asks





Aleskakolja, Tumblr 4 Comments [11/15/2017 12:56:24 PM]
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Quote# 134142

The same as it would take for me to not believe that Jesus is God's Son...............not a chance in this world would ever convince me differently...............remember I was a globe earther before I investigated the matter, my whole premise of investigation was to disprove the flat earth theory....................the only thing that stood in the corner of the flat earth theory for me, was the word of God and how the entire bible is filled with flat earth language and was written by flat earth believers....................then when you start realizing that we do see much further than the curve allows and start putting all the pieces together you can see heliocentrism is a satanic deception of grande proportions............just looking up at the stars at night you can see the stars are laid out in a dome shape, the sun shining down through the clouds with crepuscular rays shows the sun is close and local

back2thebible , Carm 4 Comments [11/13/2017 4:34:45 AM]
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Submitted By: Christopher

Quote# 134207

(This fundie is a member of the KFA, a pro-North Korea group)

The people of the DPRK assign great social importance to the three generals from Mount Paektu, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il and Kim Jong Suk. It was through these great personalities that Korea was liberated from imperial occupation. Had it not been for the formation of Juche-Korea, the whole of the Korean peninsula would still be in the grip of foreign powers, not in the interest of the Korean people.

Daily life inside the DPRK is focused on family, work and social education. There is no need for anything else to make the life of the ordinary worker happy. If foreign television was introduced to DPRK society without any guidance, people would be very confused and could be lead to think, by seeing nice cars, people with fancy clothes, and expensive things, that the west has more to offer and that living in a capitalist society is better than living in a socialist country.

True to the ideal of not polluting the people with media content, the authorities of DPRK broadcasting has correctly made the wise decision of not offering any content from outside sources. This means that broadcasting is only adapted for Korean needs, discarding everything that is counter-society or counter-productive or against the teachings of our leaders.

My individual opinion is that some content from western programming should be showed on a regular basic, teaching people about the reality of capitalist societies, so people can appreciate how safe the DPRK society is from crime, poverty, unemployment, expensive housing, and other social problems that plague the west. Such programming would have to be guided and adapted to a DPRK audience an narrated in Korean, and not displace Korean culture (i.e. not take much more than 1% of programming time).

Bjornar, Wikipedia 7 Comments [11/15/2017 2:46:08 AM]
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Submitted By: Katie

Quote# 17689

There is the god of the Bible, who is Jehovah. When you see L-O-R-D in caps, that is the name. It’s not Allah, it’s not Brahma, it’s not Shiva, it’s not Vishnu, it’s not Buddha. It is Jehovah God. They don’t have a relationship with him. He is the God of all Gods. These others are mostly demonic powers. Sure they’re demons. There are many demons in the world

Pat Robertson, god is for suckers 37 Comments [12/3/2006 12:00:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Damned at Random

Quote# 134234

You seriously work with kids? Why don't you tell the establishment you work with that you're a pedo then? Y'know since you're so proud of it and want to tell the whole world how disgusting you are. Go on. Tell them, or are you scared because you know how fucked up you are?


There’s no reason for me to tell them, I don’t have to tell anyone my sexuality, it doesn’t affect my ability to do my job.
Have you considered people like you are why MAPs are so scared to tell anyone:
(“Fourteen percent (Study 1) and 28 % (Study 2) of the participants agreed that people with pedophilia should better be dead, even if they never had committed criminal acts”
- Stigmatization of people with pedophilia: two comparative surveys )


People, please. Telling someone to admit their sexuality in hopes they’ll get fired from their job is disgusting and cruel. And it doesn’t matter anyways - whether someone wants to admit it or not, having an attraction to kids is not a bad thing. Especially when the people who do can’t control their attraction
If someone worked with kids, and used that as an excuse to groom and attract kids just to sexually abuse them, then, and ONLY then, should they lose the right to work with kids and, most likely, be sent to jail.
No-one on this earth is a danger to kids for thinking about them in any way. Its like saying something who thinks about killing someone should be arrested without even going through with it It’s your actions that define who you are. Thoughts are just that: thoughts. You can share them or keep them to yourself, but anyone who turns on someone for something they can’t control when they’re reaching out for comfort and assistance is wrong and disgusting and you should definitely think over your actions before you hurt someone close to you.



Consider this: THEY SHOULD BE FIRED. Do you want a racist as a cop? NO!


No, I shouldn’t be. I’m certain the kids there would be really upset if I was.
A racist had chosen to be a racist, they can reasonably easily stop being a racist. I never chose to be a paedophile and I can’t stop being a paedophile. A racist inherently harms others, a paedophile does not.



mapdean, Tumblr 7 Comments [11/15/2017 12:57:25 PM]
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Quote# 134185

Fidel Rivera [ Email him] 20th-generation New Mexican and author of tonight’s VDARE.com letter, angrily wrote:

You still have to pay for what you did to the Indians, THE REAL AMERICANS!

Mr. Rivera’s “real Americans” claim is a variation on the familiar trope that American Indians were “the first Americans.”

But they really weren’t, since what people almost always mean when they say “America” is the European-seeded polity known as “the United States.” Indeed, typing “America” into Wikipedia’s search box yields (without “disambiguation”) their entry for “United States,” and that article’s section on etymology concludes with this:

“American” rarely refers to subjects not connected with the United States."

So this place wasn’t really America until the whites came and developed it, a point that’s reinforced by a brief passage in Richard Bernstein’s terrific 1994 book Dictatorship of Virtue: How the Battle over Multiculturalism Is Reshaping Our Schools, Our Country, and Our Lives

(To forestall reflexive caterwauling about the nasty-nativist Bernstein’s violent hate speech [i.e. the three paragraphs just above], I should point out that the now-retired journalist was in his second decade at The New York Times when he authored Dictatorship, that he has a Harvard master’s degree in History and East Asian Languages, and that his wife is a noted Chinese classical dancer.)

So if the tribes inhabiting (before European settlement) what became the United States shouldn’t be called “the first Americans” or “the real Americans,” what should we call them? I propose “Turtle Islanders.”

Paul Nachman, VDARE 13 Comments [11/14/2017 5:48:44 AM]
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