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Quote# 118612

But as a Christian, this is a critical point that you need to grasp: the concepts of right and wrong are defined by God, and He can change His definitions any time He wants.

Today God says it’s wrong for a father to chop off his son’s finger. But should God suddenly announce tomorrow that all Christian fathers must chop off their son’s fingers, then an activity which used to be wrong would suddenly become right. You see, morality is not a fixed issue, it is a fluid issue, but it is one that only God gets to define.

Anna Diehl, The Pursuit of God 21 Comments [4/30/2016 7:48:00 AM]
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Quote# 118610

The “Islamophobia is what ISIS wants so you are only helping ISIS don’t help ISIS” argument out of the left is effectively a blanket declaration that Muslims are so savage as a group of people that “radicalising” them is as easy as saying some bad words on the internet and wanting less/no immigration from their countries.

der-prinz-aus-stahl, Ship Captured For The Glory Of Makaan 15 Comments [4/30/2016 4:22:32 AM]
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Quote# 118608

Authorities found dozens of weapons, drugs, possible explosives and a still inside an underground bunker when they raided the home of a self-styled “medicine man” in North Carolina.

Reuben DeHaan operates two businesses, “Get Well Stay Well” and “Health Care Ministries International,” from his Kings Mountain home that investigators say earned $2.7 million over six years, reported the Charlotte Observer.

The 43-year-old DeHaan filed papers in 2010 renouncing his U.S. citizenship and challenging government authority, and he claims to be a minister of the Native American Church of Nemenhah — which claims to be a “healing-based religion.”

DeHaan sold naturopathic remedies, such as colloidal silver, to “detoxify” the body and cure diseases such as the Ebola virus.

But an attorney for the Native American Rights Fund described the church — which uses “sovereign citizen” tactics to challenge government authority — as nothing but “sham artists.”

Federal agents raided DeHaan’s home as part of a joint FBI/Internal Revenue Service investigation, and recently unsealed documents reveal a startling discovery beneath his front yard.

Agents said they discovered about 70 weapons, including high-powered rifles and ammunition, in a multi-room bunker, in addition to 10 more guns found inside DeHaan’s home and vehicles.

They also found food and beverages stored in the bunker, in addition to at least two 2,000-gallon water tanks, and materials investigators believe could be used to build a bomb — including including PVC piping, Tannerite, aluminum powder and 100 feet of fusing.

The underground bunker was outfitted with an air filtration system in case of a nuclear attack.

He also grew herbal remedies in the bunker, which he did not have a permit to build.

DeHaan avoided paying taxes since 1997 by claiming that his earnings were actually religious donations, but the IRS does not recognize Nemenhah as a tribe or a church.

He has been charged with tax evasion and attempting to interfere with administration of internal revenue laws.

His attorney described DeHaan, who held a passport issued by the World Government of World Citizens, as a “prepper” and gun collector.

Dehaan is not licensed by the state of North Carolina, and he’s not recognized by the North Carolina Association of Naturopathic Physicians.

“This is defrauding the public,” said Dr. Susan DeLaney, of the NCANP. “I mean really, would you go to see a mail order dentist?”

Reuben DeHaan, Raw Story 14 Comments [4/30/2016 4:21:59 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118604

Agreed Mr. Snyder. Well, folks, I believe it is time to start the drum roll of the march, for us believers, we are soon to be with our King, but not yet. What am I talking about? The end! The Lord told me shortly after the new year that people have ignored Him, his messengers, his church, and because of this willfull disobedience, God said to me I will speak to them through the Earth.
Things are going to be happening that has never happened before.
About 10 years ago, the Lord told me of a great shaking to take place. I took this literally and have been trying to win souls like crazy and warning people. To my dismay, life is just going on.
I believe God intends to shake things up, but at the same time, I believe a spiritual shaking to take place a revival of revivals. Healing is coming, but unfortunately, God has to open the wound to be able to apply the healing salve.

Scott, Charisma News 20 Comments [4/30/2016 4:20:13 AM]
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Quote# 118603



Society has gone completely insane.

One of the hallmarks of mental health is to accept the circumstances in life that cannot change, which is why a man who claims to be Napoleon is deemed mentally unstable. One of the goals of any psychiatrist would be to guide that would-be Napoleon to accept the fact that he is not Napoleon. Sexual identity is fixed at conception: a person who is born biologically as a male or female -- with the rare exception of those born with sex chromosome disorders -- is male or female, and always will be, regardless of his or her so-called "gender identity". So, any "sex change" operation, no matter how skillful or elaborate, does not change that fact, a fact that is evident in every one of the trillions of cells in the transsexual's body, which will still show as being XX (female) or XY (male) under a microscope.

A "transsexual" can never become what he or she wants to be, and any "doctor" who would maim people who want to "transition" to the opposite sex is no health care provider and should be stripped of his medical license and be put in prison for a long, long time. How is this different from apotemnophilia?

That more and more segments of society refer to transsexuals (those who have had "sex-change" operations, which are nothing more than expensive, elaborate, and permanent Halloween costumes) and transgenders (wannabes of the opposite sex who have a warped sense of their "gender identity") as actually having become the opposite sex makes me feel like the little boy in the story "The Emperor’s New Clothes" and blows my mind! You can make a sign that says "Cow" and put it on a horse but, no matter what happens and no matter how many people believe the animal with the sign on it is a cow, it is still a horse. Society has gone completely mad! And wow, how fast it has! What an Alice in Wonderland world we now live in!


GreggKB, Charisma News 20 Comments [4/30/2016 4:18:42 AM]
Fundie Index: 7

Quote# 118602

Wow, Christians versus child molesters, and look who the president and first lady side with. We're ten times more immoral than ancient Rome ever was.

Amy, Christian News Network 21 Comments [4/30/2016 4:18:36 AM]
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Quote# 118601

[ What do you think of the official changing of Jackson's face on the 20 dollar bill to Harriet Tubman face. ]


It’s bullshit pandering, nothing more.

It disgusts me to see people on the right celebrating as if this is some civil rights glass ceiling we needed to break.

If they’re gonna replace anyone, it should be Lincoln, seeing as he was a tyrannical fuck head anyhow.

[ You’re saying that replacing someone responsible for the trail of tears and the Indian removal act with someone who actually did some good is bullshit pandering? ]

Indians
>On our land
>Why wouldn’t we remove them?

I’m so sick of hearing about the poor fucking Indians. Jesus Christ. Maybe if they’d evolved culturally past 400bce they’d still be here and we wouldn’t.

I think you’d be hard pressed to find another nation that’s conquered territory and then carved out spots for the conquered natives to remain autonomous.


Jackson was an American war hero and unlike Lincoln, he didn’t kill 600,000 Americans, and unlike Hamilton, he didn’t support centralized banking, which as we’ve seen has turned into a shit show and allowed the government to keep their boot on our necks financially.
And yes, a black woman, by this president, at this time in history, is absolutely pandering.


[ Cool. So if you conquer a place you have a right to treat the populace however you want? That’s not how that works. You aren’t right just because you won. ]

And yes, actually winning a conflict where you’re specifically trying to conquer new territory does make you right.

I don’t understand why we’re the only people on earth that have to answer for taking of new territory, when we’ve put it to much better use than the people who were living on it previously. Somehow we’re the most humane conquerors in history, save for maybe Cyrus of Persia, and yet we’re expected to answer for every death. Sorry, I won’t apologize for things that happened during a war, 200 years ago.

[ So the Nazis are only wrong because they lost. Got it. I’m not asking anyone alive today to answer for the people that were killed, but the people who did the killing sure as hell are responsible. ]


You’re asking America as a whole to say “we were wrong, so sorry” and change how things work because whiteguilt.exe

Based on your logic, Washington and Jefferson should be kicked off the 1 and 2 dollar bills, because they were slave owners after all, and we can’t have that in our history.

“History is written by the victors.” If the Nazis had won, do you think your history book might be a little different? I do. We wouldn’t know about a great number of their transgressions. And from their point of view, they’d teach that they were the morally righteous group.

Might literally makes right. Unless someone can or will challenge your authority, then saying “you’re wrong” is just whining.

Violence is the root of all authority, and consequently, the reluctance to engage in it, or failure to use it to your own advantage, places you under the authority of someone who can.

Why do you pay taxes? Because you’ll get fined if you don’t. What if you don’t pay the fines? Men with guns will come and find you. What if you don’t go with them voluntarily? They will force you, with lethal force if necessary.

There is no authority without violence, or the threat of it, and consequently, conquered people have no choice but to submit to their conqueror, or fight him to the death

[ Hey Bill. I mean sure, you’re an angry old piss ant who’s angry at the world because you get your rocks off to dead children overseas. But I mean are so fucking dense, so fucking delusional to think that the Native Americans were on OUR land? Oh so just shelling them off their properties, confining them onto small plots of property on the opposite end of the country, landscapes and climates they grew up in is a sense of “entitlement”? The US government killed more Native Americans than they killed protecting their own land, and somehow they’re the fucking problem? I mean do you just gargle with the government’s dick or are you so fucking stupid that you honestly believe any of that was justified? Sure, I mean, since when did you give a shit about human rights? You’re a cranky old has been who spends more of his time pretending his military service makes you some kind of fucking god when really, my friends and family in the military would sooner put a boot up your ass for your sadistic and pathetic excuse for morals. You’re a tool. A racist old windbag who’s beyond his glory years who spends his time pretending to be some just cause on a website filled with people a quarter his age. Now, you see I’m one who prefers to use logic and facts instead of some fucked up bias he learned from watching Alex Jones and Bill O'Rielly, but in this case, I’m willing to make an exception. Because frankly, no one cares about your shitty, cynical world view. In fact, your delusions of grandeur are so misguided you think that people actually respect you just because you were in the military. You’re a disgrace to the uniform and anyone who died protecting the liberties of everyone in this god damned country. You and people like you are the problem with this country. Not Obama, bot MUH Muslims. Nah, just a bunch of has been whiners who hide behind a badge or uniform as if it excused your sorry excuse for an exisance. Get fucked. ]


LOL Wat?

Do you get this pissed at Alexander being called “The Great” since he killed a whole fuckload of people, took their land, and made it his?

It is our land, because they lost it to us. What is so hard to understand about that?

If someone else fought the US, and took over our land, it would cease to be our land, and would be their land.

Would I be happy about that? No. But my choices would be to die fighting for my land or accept my new rulers.

Also, just for giggles, how old do you think I am, exactly?

bill-11b, Tumblr 15 Comments [4/30/2016 4:18:25 AM]
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Submitted By: Menomaru

Quote# 118599

I see the liberal, secular feminist and the homosexual/transgender ideologies running smack into each other like bulls. The losers in this bloody clash? There will be many, but let’s talk about the most ironic losers: women.

Neither ideology respects true femininity and the beauty of womanhood. Both want to empty it of its gift and uniqueness.

Both have created a caricature of woman. Both exploit what they find useful about the female body and shun the rest. Both have reduced womanhood to only the parts that serve their agenda.

Both the modern, perpetually-contracepting woman and the transgender “woman” are sterile. The former disdains her natural fertility and procreative nature, going to great lengths to quash the nuisance; the latter insists he doesn’t even need fertility to be a woman.

The transgender ideology insists that a man can, through chemical and surgical means, simply “transition” and become a woman. Poof! It’s magic!

Gender is supposedly “fluid” now and a meaningless social construct at that.

But hold on, not so fast!

The transgender movement insists there is a distinct difference between the male and female brain; between the male and female soul. Those who “transition” are considered trapped in the wrong body — the dissonance between how they feel and think and their genitals is proof. Yes, they say, being male or female obviously matters, and there are clearly important differences.

We’re told that “men” have menstrual periods now. “Men” have abortions, too. (So much for the shiny trophy of “women’s reproductive freedom.”)

Even the liberal feminist theme show, favorite of college students everywhere, The Vagina Monologues, is now sexist and insensitive because it excludes those “women” who don’t have a vagina.

I can’t believe I even wrote the preceding paragraphs in earnest. It all sounds insane. It is insane.

In 2015, it’s just a matter of adding or removing pieces and parts, like playing with Mr. Potato Head. Or Mrs. Potato Head. (How long before that toy becomes just Potato Head Person? Any bets?)

I’ve had enough of misappropriated womanhood.

Bruce Jenner gets pumped full of female hormones, has cosmetic facial surgery, gets large breast implants, hair extensions, makeup and a push-up bra, and suddenly, he is supposedly a woman. That’s all it means to be a woman: big boobs, lingerie and makeup.

Never mind that his new breasts are useless. They’re just decoration, and garish decoration at that. They symbolize a superficial “womanhood” that’s empty of meaning or purpose beyond sexual arousal.

A woman’s breasts mean infinitely more than that. The human race can credit its entire survival up to our modern era on mothers’ breasts. Mother’s milk from mother’s breasts is an integral part of being a woman, whether the modern feminist likes it or not.

The female body is gloriously designed to grow and nurture new human life. It’s an undeletable part of the female code at the deepest level. Whether our wombs ever carry a child, or whether our breasts ever nurse a baby is irrelevant to the fact that our feminine physical nature was created for that miraculous purpose. It’s inextricable to womanhood.

That is not something any surgeon can replicate with silicone, nor any doctor with artificial hormones. Bruce Jenner’s surgeon has created a mannequin, not a woman.

Adding insult to injury is the exploitation of women’s reproductive parts in the service of manufacturing children. Women are merely “ovens” used to create babies conceived without sex for the satisfaction of same-sex couples, single parents and other couples who want to “design” their child according to their specifications.

Mothers are replaced with “donor eggs” and surrogate wombs, and neither will actually have any presence in the child’s life. Who needs a mom? All that’s wanted is the raw material and the human incubator, please.

This is a profane indignity to women, to womanhood and to motherhood. It once again reduces women to parts. Parts that can be bought, rented and used to satisfy someone else’s wants. We can’t yet grow our special-ordered kids in the lab; we still need God’s equipment to get the job done, so we gotta have some wombs to use.

Those who champion abortion, free contraception, same-sex “marriage” and surrogacy are the ones always screaming that Republicans, conservatives, and especially Catholics, treat women like “breeders” without brains or any worth of their own. Ironic, eh? Who’s zoomin’ who here?

Who really appreciates the inherent, unique gift of womanhood? Those who just want to use the egg and rent the womb but refuse the mother, or those who know that a mother is irreplaceable in a child’s life?

Who really values women? Those who think plastic surgery and pills can turn a man into a woman, or those who understand the feminine genius that goes beyond boobs and makeup?

Who really respects a woman’s body? Those who believe it’s necessary to shut down her natural, healthy fertility with carcinogenic hormones, and even intentionally damage a healthy, functioning organ with crazy devices? No way. Doing damage to a woman’s health and body in the name of “equality” doesn’t sound very equal to me.

Fertility and child-bearing are part of the whole package of a woman. You can’t claim to value women, or champion women’s rights or equality and then pick her apart like you’re scouring a used car for spare parts. You can’t take what’s useful to you and leave the rest of her.

You can’t fabricate a sterile “woman” out of a man’s body and call him a woman. A woman is nobody’s Play-doh creation. She’s the marvelous handiwork of God. Her physical body, her feminine nature, her mind, her gifts and her strengths are all designed with intent and purpose by Him out of great love.

Respect the whole woman — her body, her fertility, her nature that is complementary to a man’s, her motherhood — or you don’t really respect her at all.

Jennifer Hartline, The Stream 18 Comments [4/30/2016 4:17:44 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 118598

It is time for the generations of men to grow up. Before you get upset at that statement, consider the evidence of what has happened to our understanding of masculinity.

First, men are now conditioned to live in a state of permanent adolescence. They are not raised, coached, mentored, and taught to be men. They are just “guys”. Women don’t want to marry a “guy” then want a man.

Second, men are told that their masculine traits are merely culturally created and therefore should be shed or being a man is all about selfish conquering of desires.
These problems are highlighted in two articles below:

Where Have the Good Men Gone? – The Wall Street Journal. A snip:

Not so long ago, the average American man in his 20s had achieved most of the milestones of adulthood: a high-school diploma, financial independence, marriage and children. Today, most men in their 20s hang out in a novel sort of limbo, a hybrid state of semi-hormonal adolescence and responsible self-reliance. This “pre-adulthood” has much to recommend it, especially for the college-educated. But it’s time to state what has become obvious to legions of frustrated young women: It doesn’t bring out the best in men.

What Porn Does To A Relationship:
What I would like for everyone to see is the devastating change brought to the marriage from pornography, from a woman’s viewpoint:

Not only was I shocked when he told me, I was also hurt, confused, scared, betrayed and angry. I felt like my world had just been turned upside down; my safety and security were crumbling away. His confession was overwhelming.Within minutes, the foundation of our marriage was shaken. The trust we had built was destroyed. I no longer felt safe or loved. I was suddenly bombarded with lies—he doesn’t find me attractive; it’s my fault he strayed; I’m not beautiful; I’m not sexy; I am a horrible wife; I’m a failure; he is stuck with me; he doesn’t love me … these seemed to instantly go from ridiculous to quite possibly true.

The results are the emasculation of men. To emasculate means – “to deprive a man of his male strength, role, etc.” or “to make something weaker or less effective.” This is certainly the result of men who fail to understand and properly live out true masculinity.

The idea of the full-grown man living as an adolescent guy, who is only out for himself, isn’t masculinity but a betrayal of what a man is supposed to be. Furthermore, porn twists a man into believing that he is masculine by conquering women for his sexual gratification. It isn’t being manly at all. Think of a man that you look up to. I am not talking about a movie star, musician, or athlete. I mean someone who is a real example of humble virtue. Someone who is a true leader of others. They certainly aren’t the kind of man who looks at porn, can’t hold down a job due to bad habits, is selfish, or immature.

We need to stand up to this corruption of masculinity and really live out . To be a real man is just what I posted a several years back – it is to respect, protect, love, and serve.

We must live this true calling of being a man out, model it for others, teach it to our children, and challenge others to live it out. We cannot sit back and allow the culture which turns men into pleasure-seeking, bumbling, incompetent fools do it for us. They see men, fathers, and husbands as incapable of real virtue.

These issues are not only killing masculinity, they are also killing femininity. Because only when masculinity is truly lived properly will femininity flourish.

So, where do we start? We start with discovering what a masculine man is NOT:

an emasculated ninny.
a testosterone infused sack of passions.
going to turn away from a challenge, just because it is difficult.

A masculine man is this ->

A man who desperately seeks to follow in the footsteps of THE MAN.
He will be courageous in the face of danger.
He will fight for and maintain self control.
He will put to death his lusts.
He will be in control of his emotions and yet not afraid of them.
He will find himself in losing himself.
He is humble, but sure of the gifts God has given him.
He is gentle when he should be and rough when necessary.
He is a man of strength of character and his word means something.
He says I am sorry, thank you, and please.
He fulfills his promises.
He isn’t ashamed of his Lord or either of his mothers.
He holds open doors, looks people in the eye, and has confidence in himself.
He will put life in the proper order – 1 – God; 2 – His wife (if he has one); 3 – His children (if he has them) 4 – Others; 5 – Himself

A real man isn’t afraid of his masculine traits, but embraces them as a gift from God. He doesn’t abuse them, but understands the way to use them in service of God and others.

It is time we men resurrect true masculinity. It is time for men to grow up.

Marcel, Aggie Catholic Blog 14 Comments [4/30/2016 4:16:04 AM]
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Submitted By: Ivurm

Quote# 118597

(In response to PaigeWhitley' post about her son being attacked by demonic lizards every night)

I has been 33 years ago, but when I was saved at the age of 32, ALL HELL broke loose within 36 hours. I prayed to receive Jesus on a Sat. night, and was at the church door the next morning, and made it public. The next day when I got up, I literally saw black, transparent human-like figures coming down the stairs to where I was in the living room, TRYING to read my bible. I was about as scared as I have ever been in my life, since I innately knew these were EVIL. I had no idea what to do, and ran out of my house. After several days, and thinking I was going crazy, my brother-in-law who was a new Christian, told me what was happening. He said Satan was SO mad because I didn't belong to him anymore, that he was having a demonic SNIT, and trying to get me to believe it wasn't real. He also told me to confront him and tell him NOTHING he could do could take my salvation away, and for him to HIT THE ROAD "in Jesus' name". I had to do that a ga-zillion times for the next week or so, but things finally stopped. But that fear did cause my baptism to be somewhat anti-climactic , as I was still in the throws of utter fear that night.
I will pray HARD for your son right now, and that Jesus will send him angelic protection to guard him from Satan and his "posse". Tell your son to command the demons (lizards, etc.) to leave in Jesus' name, and that he knows they MUST obey Jesus. I promise to pray for your son for the next week before bedtime for Jesus' protection.
Please re-post and let us know how he is doing. I SO feel for him - just the most scary thing in the world.

madcat, Rapture Ready 10 Comments [4/30/2016 4:15:13 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 118596

I don't know if what I'm seeing is truely what I'm thinking that I'm seeing.

I don't spend a ton of time on forums and that sort of thing. I post here more than anywhere else. The moderators know how long I've been around, and my small number of post show's just how much of an active poster I am.

But I do "lurk" a lot on all sorts of comment threads. Especially on many different news sites.

Consistantly, everywhere I go, when our faith is brought up, Christians, Christianity, our Lord Jesus, the Bible are all mocked and put down in some of the most shocking and vile ways.

It seems to me like it's EVERYWHERE!

I mean, in my day to day life I don't run into it a lot.

But online, you can't go anyplace without us being verbally ripped to pieces.

So your opinions.... what do you think. Am I getting an accurate picture about how our culture feels about us and our faith? Are we at the cusp of actual literal physical persecution here?

Or.... am I just stumbling on the reactions of a bunch of sad individuals that simply prowl the comment lines of all news outlets in the world to talk down and insult believers? All from the comfort of their mother's basements.

I'm of the opinion that this is really how the public at large is feeling, it's just that the computer lets them vocalize it more. People in day to day interactions are at this point, still too polite to act like this in person... just yet.

It's just so thick out there. The way people are speaking, they all think we're no better than ISIS and should be destroyed. Really, I see it over and over again.... these people are saying that we "christians" are no better than ISIS.

I think these lost souls are looking (though they'd denie it) for a reason to cut loose on believers and really start harming us..... it's just under the surface.

Scilent, Rapture Ready 19 Comments [4/30/2016 4:15:07 AM]
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Submitted By: Arceus

Quote# 118593

The facts may tell you one thing. But, God is not limited by the facts. Choose faith in spite of the facts.

Joel Osteen, Twitter 36 Comments [4/29/2016 3:26:26 AM]
Fundie Index: 28
Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118592

Fox News host Ainsley Earhardt wondered this week if the best way to deal with the 2016 presidential race was to “pray about it and God will pick the right candidate.”

On Tuesday’s edition of Fox & Friends, host Steve Doocy asked The View host Candace Cameron Bure what it would take to unite Republicans behind one candidate.

“I don’t know what it’s going to take,” Bure admitted. “But I’m an American and I hold conservative values, and I think at the end of the day, I realize I put my faith in Jesus Christ, not in any one person.”

She added: “And whoever becomes our candidate, our nominee and eventually our president, I will pray for them and support that they make the best decisions for our country.”

Earhardt pressed Bure about the role of religion in selecting a candidate.

“I know your faith is important to you as it is to many of us,” Earhardt said. “Do you feel like in this election, we just pray about it and give it to God? And God’s going to pick the right candidate?”

Bure, however, recommended that Christians should vote.

“I don’t know who I’m going to vote for at this point,” she insisted. “But I will pray about the decision of who I’ll vote for.”

Ainsley Earhardt, Raw Story 22 Comments [4/29/2016 3:26:00 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118591

Did dinos give rise to birds? No—they ate them
Dino-ate-birds
by David Catchpoole

A fossil of the small theropod dinosaur Sinocalliopteryx gigas found in Liaoning, China, was so well preserved that researchers were able to make out its intact stomach contents.1 They were able to see the last thing it had eaten—a bird dinner. As the bird had only been partially digested (indicating death of the Sinocalliopteryx had occurred not long after its last meal) the researchers were even able to identify the species of the bird: Confuciusornis sanctus.

What’s more, that bird specimen was not the only one found in the dinosaur’s stomach. There was another Confuciusornis sanctus carcass as well, and “both were in a similar state of partial digestion”.1 Given that “remains as delicate as small bird bones have presumably short digestion periods”, the researchers conclude, logically enough, that the two Confuciusornis birds must have been consumed in fairly rapid succession, “in order for the first individual not to have had time to be digested noticeably beyond that of the second.”1

bird-dino
Evidently the dinosaur liked eating birds, because there were the remains of a third bird in its stomach too, in a somewhat more advanced state of digestion, which the researchers say might also have been a Confuciusornis. Paleontologist Scott Persons mused, “The fact that this Sinocalliopteryx had not one but three undigested birds in its stomach indicates it was a voracious eater and a very active hunter.”2

The secular uniformitarian models, based on the idea that ‘the present is the key to the past’, really don’t even begin to make sense of the fossils even just at Liaoning, let alone globally
How did this fossil, and many other fossils at Liaoning similarly “exquisitely preserved”,3 with even “abdominal contents in exquisite detail” being preserved,4 come to be this way? The secular uniformitarian models, based on the idea that ‘the present is the key to the past’, really don’t even begin to make sense of the fossils even just at Liaoning, let alone globally. Rather, knowing what really happened in the past is the key to understanding the present world—including fossils. The Bible tells us of a global catastrophic event, the Flood of Noah’s day, about 4,500 years ago. This is why we find billions of fossils in sedimentary rock worldwide.

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This correct understanding utterly washes away the millions of years so needed by the evolutionary paradigm. Textbooks, museums, and television documentaries promoting that paradigm have said that over millions of years dinosaurs gave rise to birds, which in turn evolved the ability to fly. But the Confuciusornis birds in the dinosaur’s stomach were birds “capable of powered flight”,1 and also had a beak rather than teeth. And as this is not the first dinosaur discovered with bird remains in its belly,5 where does that leave the millions-of-years dino-to-bird scenario? No wonder that evolutionists are “in a flap”.6

David Catchpoole, creation.com 24 Comments [4/29/2016 3:24:52 AM]
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Submitted By: PETF(People eating tasty fundies)

Quote# 118586

Governor Pat McCrory said that voting in North Carolina should be as difficult as it is to buy Sudafed in his meth-producing state. McCrory took time out from his gymnastics defending North Carolina’s bathroom bill in order to issue an official statement with some verbal jujitsu. The governor lauded the fact that North Carolina’s “common sense” approach to keeping a lot of folks from voting had been affirmed by a judge’s ruling, which struck down a challenge to the law.

The New York Times summarized the restrictive voting rights bill and the ruling that upheld it:

“The opinion, by Judge Thomas D. Schroeder of Federal District Court in Winston-Salem, upheld the repeal of a provision that allowed people to register and vote on the same day. It also upheld a seven-day reduction in the early-voting period; the end of preregistration, which allowed some people to sign up before their 18th birthdays; and the repeal of a provision that allowed for the counting of ballots cast outside voters’ home precinct.

It also left intact North Carolina’s voter identification requirement, which legislators softened last year to permit residents to cast ballots, even if they lack the required documentation, if they submit affidavits.”

The governor’s two-sentence statement likened the constitutionally-guaranteed right of citizens to vote as the same as buying Sudafed or boarding a jet.

“This ruling further affirms that requiring a photo ID in order to vote is not only common-sense, it’s constitutional,” said Governor McCrory. “Common practices like boarding an airplane and purchasing Sudafed require photo ID and thankfully a federal court has ensured our citizens will have the same protection for their basic right to vote.”

In hopes of reducing the manufacture of methamphetamine, many states require a customer to present a photo ID when purchasing Sudafed and other decongestants that contain pseudoephedrine, a precursor drug to the illegal drug. In 2013, North Carolina busted up 513 meth labs.

By likening voting rights to buying Sudafed, the governor appears to be arguing that preventing some people from voting is an act of public health, like keeping dangerous drugs out of the hands of the wrong people.

A quick glance at the Constitution does not reveal any provision in its amendments for flying or treating a cold, but seems pretty clear on who has the right to vote.

Gov. Pat McCrory, Raw Story 20 Comments [4/29/2016 3:17:16 AM]
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Submitted By: Demon Duck of Doom

Quote# 118584

In the constellation Coma (desired or the longed for), the Star of Bethlehem appeared. There was a traditional prophecy, well-known in the East, carefully preserved and handed down, that a new star would appear in this sign when he whom it foretold should be born. New stars have appeared again and again, but in 125 BC that a star, so bright as to be seen in the day-time, suddenly appeared. The second Adam (the promise seed of the woman Gen.3:25) was born, born is September.

newnature, Religion and Ethics 17 Comments [4/29/2016 3:16:51 AM]
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Submitted By: Nearly Sane

Quote# 118583

Casual has no place in a Jewish home. Casual is not an attitude for a Jewish woman. This applies to women who work outside the home and women who work inside the home. And women who do both. Women with numerous graduate degrees and high school dropouts. Women with many small children and empty-nesters. Dressing to look attractive for your husband should be a priority.

[...]

Yes, it can be burdensome to feel compelled to dress up at home, to look nice when you want to lie around the house. But is that business deal more important than our marriage? Does that client's opinion carry more weight? Can our best friends never see us without make-up and our husbands never see us with it?

My kids might interject that I talk a good show. I've been known to indulge in casual attire at home, not always treating my marriage with the same attention as those long ago exams. But I know it's a mistake. And it doesn't always require a major effort. We don't need to change into "power" suits (my husband says I look like a linebacker in them anyway!) but how about putting on a little lipstick? Changing the shirt with the large stain down the front? Staying out of pajamas until it's actually bedtime? We will be teaching our children an invaluable lesson about the importance of marriage. And although we won't get any public accolades, we'll certainly receive many deeper benefits and pleasures. Because we don't really have a casual attitude towards our marriages. We really do give a hoot.

Emuna Braverman, aish.com 19 Comments [4/29/2016 3:13:35 AM]
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Quote# 118580

Shes just as bad as her husband. She needs to go back and look and the constitution about religious freedom and she needs to read the bible about trangender, gays and the religions she was talking about. There is only one God. He is not hindu or budhist or muslim. He is also againest homosexuality and men and women dressing like each other. God says love the sinner not the sin. Dont condone it. And dont push it on all of the true Christians. Christianity is free for all. Its not forced on anyone. So LGBT the Obamas and everyone else need to stop pushing the ignorance on us this country was founded on God. And unless it goes back to that. It will fall

Sam, Christian News Network 17 Comments [4/29/2016 3:13:10 AM]
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Quote# 118578

(Emphasis original)

The Homosexual Agenda Is Destroying The Black Man.

Am I homophobic? No, I don’t fear homosexuals. But I do deal with facts and the devastation that homosexuality is doing to our African American community, our families, our churches and our value system. Is this hate speech? No, it is freedom of speech – and freedom of speech does not just apply to agreeable speech, ideas and mindsets. So if you are offended, then the truth offends you. But its time someone spoke up to the sin of homosexuality. I call homosexuality what God calls it, perversion and abomination. So if you have a problem with that, you have a problem with Him, not me. I judge nothing, but I am not afraid to relay the message regarding what has already been judged by God.

There is a strategic and deliberate effort by the powers that be who control the media, the music industry and the feminist groups to emasculate men (specifically African American), reduce our roles and impact in society and create a new class of effeminate young men who are lost and who think their behavior is normal. People like Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey are on board with this plan and it is happening even as we speak. The sociological acceptance of deviant behavior such as homosexuality is gradually becoming more accepted as it infects our schools, our churches, our TV shows, our literature, our music and our youth. As the perversion spirals out of control, we are seeing our young people under the illusion that they can change gender and more confused about what they were born to be than ever. A young masculine boy (down low) suddenly wants a “tranny” or an effeminate boy or to be a girl. A young feminine girl wants a girl (stud) who looks, acts and dresses like a boy. None of these youths know who they are, what they are, how they should act or who they were created to be. THAT IS AUTHORED CONFUSION!

IF WE KEEP ALLOWING OUR SPIRITUAL AND MORAL BOUNDARIES TO BE RESET, ERODED OR DESTROYED, WE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR OWN RACE AND WE WILL NEVER FIND OUR WAY HOME AS A PEOPLE

We must stop supporting any image, concept, practice or ideology that contributes to the sabotage or destruction of the African American community. No excuses. We cannot and we must not aid in our own demise. We have to see the big picture and recognize there is an agenda put in place against us, not for us. Am I perfect? No. Do I sin? Yes. Do I want to or make excuses for it? No. Do I blame God for my behavior? No. Am I working to change behaviors that I know are wrong? Yes. Being a heterosexual does not make me perfect, but I neither struggle with nor accept homosexuality at any time, under any conditions. I don’t want sensitivity classes because I do not plan to be sensitive to obvious perversion and blatant immorality. What about you?

Apparently homosexuals think they have better practices than God so let’s see. Let’s look at the facts. Two homosexuals cannot reproduce and there is a biological reason for that, like it or not. This means the more homosexual couples there are, the more our reproduction numbers drop in the “black” community. The father’s involvement with the child increases dopamine in the child’s brain (the motivator chemical), like it or not. The mother’s involvement with the child balances serotonin levels in the child, like it or not. Therefore both parents are biochemically necessary. Homosexuality hurts your spirit, your psyche, your family, your example, your community and your race.

The Bible says we are to capture thoughts that exalt themselves against the knowledge of God (II Corinthians 10:5). We are not to entertain them, act on them and then make excuses for them or blame Him. If you believe this, you understand my point – and this article. But if you don’t therein lies your problem. If we do things just to have our own way, we rebel against the right way, the best way, the most productive way. And in the long run we will wake up or we will lose. There is a way that seems right to man, but in the end there is a loss of more than we can ever imagine.

Marque-Anthony, Thy Black Man 19 Comments [4/29/2016 3:12:25 AM]
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Quote# 118574

Former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay has written to a federal judge asking for leniency for ex-Speaker Dennis Hastert, the Republican politician who pled guilty last year to illegally structuring bank withdrawals as part of what prosecutors now say was a scheme to pay off a former student whom he had allegedly molested during his days as a high school wrestling coach. Prosecutors say that Hastert sexually abused at least four boys.

The former GOP leader has acknowledged that he “committed transgressions for which he is profoundly sorry.”

In a letter to the judge who will be sentencing Hastert in the banking violation case, DeLay defended Hastert as a good, godly man with very few flaws and who “doesn’t deserve what he is going through.”

Although DeLay's letter is undated, the Chicago Tribune notes that most of the letters in support of Hastert were “written in late February and early March — before prosecutors detailed sex abuse allegations against Hastert from decades ago.” Although prosecutors only recently laid out the new charges against Hastert, the allegations of child abuse were widely reported in May of last year.

But while Tom Delay may not think that Dennis Hastert deserves the public shame of being called a child abuser, he doesn’t feel the same way about LGBT people. After all, this is the same Tom DeLay who has demonized LGBT people by grouping them with pedophiles.

Just days after the Supreme Court delivered its landmark marriage equality decision, DeLay claimed that he knew of “a secret memo coming out of the Justice Department” that would legalize “12 new perversions,” including “having sexual with little boys.”

Tom DeLay, Right Wing Watch 21 Comments [4/29/2016 3:11:55 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 118573

This election is much more than Trump or Cruz. It is about saving our country by defeating the communist leftist democrats.

Have no doubt that if the democrats win, they will bring in millions of young muslin men just to spite conservative Christians whom they hate. Many of the young muslin men will be jihadists. We will have weekly killings of Americans at churches, schools, and sporting events. Mark my words.

For that reason I will vote for Trump if he wins the nomination.

LarryBo, WND 24 Comments [4/29/2016 3:11:28 AM]
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Submitted By: Ibuki Mioda

Quote# 118572

I was teaching at this school in Toronto today and I was lucky enough to sit through an Earth Day assembly. It was very educational. Unlike a typical school assembly, this gathering was in many ways very similar to a Southern Black Baptist church service. There was singing and shouting. One of the songs was "We've got the whole world in our hands", which I guess is the Leftist version of "He's got the whole world in His hands". It's revealing when you think about it. It's not just that we have to take care of the world; it's that we are gods and the world is our kingdom. It's that since we are atheists, the Left generally and environmentalism specifically is our religion. I looked at the student body, a group of kids aged 5-12, and I looked at the teachers and the parents who had come, and what I saw was a sea of ecstatic faces with glazed over eyes. They had all been indoctrinated into this cult long ago. I saw a choir of brainwashed 4th graders, singing about how we should only use what we need, and how it was our moral responsibility to re-use and recycle all that we use. I saw a slide show of polluted waters, littered fields, and carbon-belching smokestacks, all set to sinister sounding music, and I heard people (kids and adults) shout out in horror and anger at those pictures. It reminded me of the "two- minutes hate" from Orwell's 1984. Kids were actually crying during this slide show. The last slides were of hippy children and adults wearing Earth Day t-shirts and flowers in their hair picking up and throwing away litter. (By the way, there were several children and teachers at the assembly who had flowers in their hair.) At the sight of these last couple of slides, the audience cheered ecstatically (much like at the sight of Big Brother at the end of two-minutes hate).

As I said, this was not a school assembly in the typical sense; this was a meeting of a religious cult. When men like Mark Steyn, Dennis Prager, Mark Levin, and the people at PJTV talk about how the Left is taking over America (which is the last place in the civilized world where their takeover is not yet complete) it is crucial to realize that this is not hyperbole on their part--It is a literal description. It is not alarmist or xenophobic to call out the Left for their attempt to undermine the American revolution and replace it with their own modern brand of Marxism. The First of the Ten Commandments is "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me". When God gave Moses this Commandment 3,500 years ago, God may have been referring to Baal or Molech or any number of idols that other civilizations sacrificed their children to. Nevertheless, despite the fact that these idols are no longer relevant, this Commandment remains entirely applicable today. The false gods of today include: nature, social justice, cultural and moral relativism, feminism, gender equality (which is code for undermining the family), and anything else the Left values. The best way to smash these idols is for those of us who were chosen by God to reveal Him to the nations, to continue to affirm the One true God of Israel and to proclaim His name and His Law throughout the Land. If we don't, the Left will win. If this is frightening to you, so be it. If fear is what it takes to motivate us to defeat the Left, then it is worth it to be afraid.

zachor_ve_kavod, JTF.org 22 Comments [4/29/2016 2:57:37 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 118571

Amos Moses:
No, you are confused......... and you are trying to confuse the issue...... XX or XY..... done and done........ all of this other nonsense is just that... we do not choose our gender.. it is not "imposed" by society..... that is all subjective nonsense...

Gender Ideology Harms Children
Originally posted March 21, 2016 – a temporary statement with references. A full statement will be published in summer 2016. Updated with Clarifications on April 6, 2016.
American College of Pediatrians

(Transphobic copypasta from the American College of Pediatricians)

Ambulance Chaser:
OK, that's nice, but the American Association of Pediatrics has taken the exact opposite position on this measure. So there are some "doctors, men of science, pediatricians" who strongly disagree with this law. So now you have to make a choice: which are you going to believe?

1. The American Association of Pediatrics is the official, nationally-recognized organization for representing pediatricians. It has over 60,000 members nationwide and publishes the respected Journal of Pediatrics.

2. The American College of Pediatricians was founded in 2002, specifically to oppose everything the AAP says. They have somewhere around 200 members (at best) and put forth no scientific evidence to support their positions. Those positions are basically the Republican platform on everything medical. In other words, they're a fringe group that exists solely to oppose liberal ideas and the AAP, while sounding like a legitimate medical organization so that right-wingers can quote them and sound important.

Amos Moses:
i am going to believe Christ..........................

Ambulance Chaser:
What was it you said before about not being able to refute the points?

But hey, that's your prerogative. You can "believe in Christ" on this issue. What was it He had to say about transgenderism again?

Amos Moses:
Matthew
19:4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
19:6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Oh, gee,,,,,NOTHING there about transgenders......... just MEN AND WOMEN.....XX and XY....

Ambulance Chaser:
Yes, as you said, nothing about transgenders. He doesn't define "male" and "female" and there's certainly nothing about chromosomes in there.

Amos Moses:
The bible is not a science text.......... So it would not say those things...... especially the so called modern English terms.... people invent words to avoid being told they are wrong.... God created men and women....... there is nothing outside of it.......... except sin and confusion.......... make all the convoluted arguments you want.... it wont change anything ...

Ambulance Chaser:
No, I'm sure it won't change anything for you. You've made it clear that you aren't interested in hearing facts.

Amos Moses:
If you ever find any........let me know............. but i doubt you have any to begin with.......

Who do you say Christ is?............

Ambulance Chaser:
If you really want to learn about transgender people, you might start with the APA's position paper. It's full of answers, backed up research, and publicly available.

Who do I say Christ is? I don't know what that means, but I don't think much about Christ on a daily basis because the subject has zero impact on my life.

Amos Moses:
Good to know your opinion on Christ.......... the rest of what you write about then......... is of no interest to me because......... it lacks any verifiable truth...............

"6 Reasons Why Most Scientific Research is Fake, False or Fraudulent"

(Citation to Waking Times, a conspiracy site)

Ambulance Chaser:
Well, aside from the fact that Waking Times appears to be a nutcase crank website (it cites Cracked as a source!?), let's assume that what they say is true.

Okay, so now we've established, for the moment, that something is not automatically true just because it's written in a scientific journal. There could be flaws, bias, whatever.

So, what are the flaws in, oh, pick a study on transgenderism. Any one. And critique it.

No, don't throw me more crank websites or arguments against "science" as a whole. Those aren't useful or relevant. No peer reviewer ever earned a grant by saying "hurr durr, science isn't reliable, so this study is false lol!" I mean ACTUALLY read it, critically, and with an eye toward any problems it may have.

Yes, what I'm asking you to do is HARD. It's work. I mean, graduate-level psychology-type work. Work I can't do, by the way; I freely admit it's beyond my skills. But it shouldn't be a problem for you, because you believe that your knowledge of psychology is greater than that of the preeminent experts in the field.

So what do you say? Are you up for this?

Amos Moses:
It is all fallacious... it cannot be science..... it is all subjective "feelings".... by definition.... NOT science........ unless one thinks a person is just a mixed bag of blood and electro-chemical processes and that men have no control over who and what they are...... which is also fallacious............

"I was born this way"..... is just garbage reasoning for "my feelings" are the only thing that is important........... Hey....... i was born the way i am....... a christian with a sound mind...... so who are any of them to tell us that we are wrong and they are right if that is all it is.............. It is NOT!.........

Ambulance Chaser:
It's "all fallacious?" So then, a few posts ago, when you were trumpeting the American College of Pediatricians' position as "scientific" was that fallacious too?

Amos Moses:
No, because it lines up with scripture, science, and common sense............. just because a scientist says it.......... does not make it science........... and peer review only costs about $500 and you can get pretty much any nonsense published....

Ambulance Chaser:
So, science is great and we should all believe science, as long as it's science that supports what you want to believe. Otherwise, it's fake.

Got it.

Amos Moses:
Very good......... because that is exactly what many "scientists" are doing today ..... they have "a Priori" removed certain conclusions based on nothing but their biases and beliefs.... and that belief is "materialism"......... so that even if all the evidence points to anything outside "materialism" ................ it is "a Priori" dismissed as being the correct answer......................

Dr Scott Todd, an immunologist at Kansas State University
"Even if all the data point to an intelligent designer, such an hypothesis is excluded from science because it is not naturalistic."

The prominent evolutionary biologist Richard Lewontin
"We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfil many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."

So DESPITE the claim of an "Open Mind" and "Following the Evidence"..........they have clearly stated that they.... and a vast majority of "scientists" .......WILL NOT follow the evidence.................. So anything they have to say............ IS NOT SCIENCE...................

Amos Moses, Christian News Network 38 Comments [4/28/2016 3:37:18 AM]
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Quote# 118569

Palestine, Amalek and Nazi Nation

During some points of the recent wave of terror which has plagued Israel, there were reports showing attacks against Jews every 10 minutes. The official PA schools run by Israel’s “moderate” peace partners openly support terror against Jews as does the Arab media. Arab mothers praise their children who kill Jews and glow with happiness when their martyred offspring die, as long as they kill a Jew along the way. This sweeping type of hatred against Jews is unprecedented in Jewish history. If anyone wants to get a better understanding of the rationale of the mitzvah in the Torah to wipe out Amalek – men women and children or the similar law that applies to the 7 nations, one need only look at the Arabs in Israel, where men, women and children are part of the armed terrorist struggle against the Jews. It is no surprise then that the Gematria – The mathematical sum of the letters that form the word “Phalastin” - “Palestine” and the sum of the word “Amalek” are equal to 240 (239 plus the kolel). The Nazi nation (haleum haNazi) is also equal to 239 (with the kolel).

7 Nations is a concept and not just about genetics

The Or Hachayim says that any nation that lives in the Land and that believes that we are thieves who stole their land, must be wiped out or expelled, because they will never settle for anything less than the expulsion or annihilation of the Jews- the people who they view as thieves – who stole “their land”. Indeed, it is us or them. There will never be peace and security until they are removed from Israel or until we lie down our arms and leave Israel.

Amalek is also a concept

Rabbi Yosef B. Soloveichik Z”L held that Amalek, as well, is not exclusively determined by genetics. He maintained that the German Nazis were halachically classified as Amalek. I know the Arabs have not succeeded in murdering 6million Jews, yet, G-d forbid. However, I also know that the so called “Palestinians” reached new heights when it comes to their level of Jew-hatred. I have yet to hear of Nazi grandmas who were happy to see their grandchildren perish in battle as long as they could aid in the murder of Jews. I have yet to hear of 11 year old German children who brandished weapons to hunt down Jews, or of 72 year-old German women who joined the hunt. These are not people you can reason with. These are not people who you could live side by side in peace with. No Jew will be able to cross a street or walk 4 meters in Israel without turning his back in fear of being attacked by Arabs. That is the reality whether we want to accept it or not.

They must go or we must go

They must go or we must go. Currently it is only legal to speak of expulsion of Jews and surrendering more land in a futile exercise of appeasement that only makes the Arabs more brazen, and thirsty for Jewish blood. To propose the expulsion of Arabs is considered racist according to Israeli law and can land the one espousing such words in prison. That has to change and will change if we wish to retain our Jewish homeland and if we wish to live in peace, security and tranquility. There is no other alternative.

Israel will survive

It is likely that when Israel ultimately takes the type of action that it needs to take to finally quell Arab terror and to distance the hostile Arabs from Israel, that this will bring international condemnation and sanctions against Israel. Better sanctions and life for the Jews and the Jewish state, than accolades, Auschwitz and funerals and flower sympathy wreaths to be laid at a new Yad Vashem that will G-d forbid memorialize the Jewish state that was. Israel will survive, but Israel will need to wise up and legalize the only program that could yet save the state. Legalization of Kahane? Call it whatever you want or show me another alternative that is based on Torah and/or logic that could save Israel.

Binyamin Yisrael, JTF.org 10 Comments [4/28/2016 3:36:45 AM]
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Submitted By: TimeToTurn

Quote# 118567

I'm a progressive, but also a pessimist and a misanthrope. My support for progressive policies is motivated by a firm belief that most people are crazy, evil, or just plain stupid and cannot be left to their own devices without ultimately screwing themselves and/or others. I don't see any contradiction between being a progressive and a control freak because "freedom" to me means freedom for them, not us ... since we have well-developed internal restraints, so while reducing external restraints wouldn't change our behaviors, it would change the behaviors of the people that we are logically most interested in controlling.

The irony is that while mental illness is regarded as grounds for leniency, I could argue that diminished faculties means they're more likely to require strong external controls and simple, powerful associations between undesirable behaviors and negative consequences. If only we really could "throw away" all the clinical psychopaths (as defined by patterns of behavior and/or measurable physical differences in brain structure): throw every banker, MBA, and Republican politician in jail.

Visceral, Daily Kos 28 Comments [4/28/2016 3:34:02 AM]
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