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No sport what I am saying is In the beginning God literally created everything Genesis Accounts for in 7 days. Then between the last day of creation (the rest) and the fall of Man your 4.6 billion (or whatever number your precious science wants to plug into that slot) happened, then about 5000 years ago (give or take) the fall happened and Man was expelled from the garden. So yes Adam and Eve were potentially in the garden for 5 billion years, or whatever number you need to plug into that spot. (Per the tree of life which they had access to.)
That is why the tree of knoweledge was so tempting to eve. (it was the only thing left in a garden the size of 2/3's of North america that they had not done/was an unknown.)

So Again a literal 7 day creation, but a very long period between the last day of creation and the fall of man which starts the geneologies found in scripture that dates 'man with soul' to about 5000 years.

Drich, AtheistForums.org 32 Comments [1/30/2015 4:30:27 AM]
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Psycho Tits

For all the oddity of this man's beliefs, this is one of the most interesting of the literalist beliefs - that the world evolved over 4.6 billion years while people and certain animals remained untouched in Eden.

I don't believe it, obviously, but it's more clever than the "God made the world look old to confound the unbelievers" argument.

1/30/2015 4:40:52 AM

Goomy pls

How come there are no fossils of man from before a few million years ago? It there were, maybe I could consider your viewpoint.

1/30/2015 4:45:24 AM

Grimsoncrow

Ans what about all those Cro- magnons and Neanderthals running around?

1/30/2015 4:45:26 AM

anothga

So yes Adam and Eve were potentially in the garden for 5 billion years
And your proof for this is...?

So Again a literal 7 day creation, but a very long period between the last day of creation and the fall of man which starts the geneologies found in scripture that dates 'man with soul' to about 5000 years.
So, it's figuratively literal? Gotcha.

1/30/2015 5:05:35 AM

Mister Spak

Well, this is a new lame excuse for ignoring observable reality.

1/30/2015 5:31:18 AM

commonbloodysense

it took them 4.6 billion years to shag and have babies?

1/30/2015 5:54:23 AM

pip

Tell us another one sport.

1/30/2015 6:02:35 AM

Doubting Thomas

It's bad enough that the bible says that Adam lived for some 900 years, now this moron is claiming that Adam & Eve lived for 5 billion years.

I'm so glad I no longer have to jump through ridiculous mental hoops like this like I did when I was religious.

1/30/2015 6:44:17 AM

KittyKaboom

In the 'Mental Gymnastics Done to Justify a Biblical Worldview' event, you win the gold.

Congratulations.

1/30/2015 6:51:35 AM

Arctic Knight

Well, then, that's a new one. I had not heard of A&E living billions of years before.

1/30/2015 7:25:29 AM

dionysus

Then between the last day of creation (the rest) and the fall of Man your 4.6 billion (or whatever number your precious science wants to plug into that slot)

Yeah! Fuck those eggheads! Fuck science! Let's go back to the days when predators hunted us and we died at the grand old age of 25. Those were the greatest days of all. Those nerds in lab coats ruined everything!

1/30/2015 7:34:24 AM



"God literally created everything Genesis Accounts for in 7 days."


1/30/2015 7:49:35 AM

Elie

You know, I almost have more respect for the blind literalists because at least they don't attempt to clothe their beliefs in mistaken science.

1/30/2015 9:22:42 AM

StoneSpiral

That makes no sense at all. All the other animals were commanded to be fruitful and multiply. You mean to tell me that Adam and Eve weren't allowed to breed until *after* they were cast out of the garden?

Still sounds like a set up. God wanted a population to punish, so he waited until they were banished to let them have babies, that way he *made sure* they would be dirty little sinners from the start and could be as much as a douchebag as he wanted from the get go.

1/30/2015 9:23:27 AM

Prager

Anything to prevent having to face reality, eh Drich.

1/30/2015 9:24:57 AM

freako104

It's like he is not trying

1/30/2015 11:10:43 AM

Yossarian Lives

So, Adam and Eve were quite content to lead a life of blissful ignorance for 4.5 billion years without a single thought of rebellion? Also, when they did make an error, which was never actually explained beforehand by God, it was unwilling to give them another chance, despite their 4.5 billion year adherence to God's plan to have them live a life as troglodytes? What a temperamental sod!

1/30/2015 11:51:34 AM

Jonathon

"So Again a literal 7 day creation, but a very long period between the last day of creation and the fall of man..."

Is that Biblical?

Your fellow Christians would see that as blasphemy.

1/30/2015 12:29:14 PM

John

Adam and Eve were potentially in the garden for 5 billion years

No; we're told that Adam lived for 930 years (Gen. 5:3). We don't know when the Fall happened, but it had to be several decades less than 130 years, since that's how old Adam was when Seth was born, and Seth wasn't born until Cain and Abel (who were born after the Fall) were grown and Abel was slain.

Per the tree of life which they had access to

They didn't eat from the Tree of Life. If they had, they would have lived forever. They were kicked out of the garden specifically to prevent them from eating from the Tree of Life (see Gen. 3:22).

In the beginning God literally created everything Genesis Accounts for in 7 days

A day is defined as the period between successive appearances of the sun. There was no such thing as a "day" until the sun was created on Day 4.

1/30/2015 12:35:55 PM

Frank

"it was the only thing left in a garden the size of 2/3's of North america"

So only two people were living in an area as big as a continent. That's one big garden. Eat from the tree of knowledge. I'm amazed they could even find it in a garden that big.

1/30/2015 1:06:57 PM

checkmate

No sport

Speaking of 'sport', let me quote Sportin' Life from Porgy and Bess about longevity in the Bible: "it ain't necessarily so."

1/30/2015 1:34:10 PM



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Yoruba creation
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1/30/2015 1:43:46 PM

Hasan Prishtina

The Bible says Adam lived 930 years, not 5 billion. Next.

1/30/2015 2:44:15 PM

Old Viking

I planted a tree of life in the back yard. The damned thing was dead within a month.

1/30/2015 3:16:57 PM

Mech610

Wow, you're desperate now, aren't ya?

1/30/2015 5:06:16 PM

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