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MCrow:
Religion offers no explanation of consciousness either. In fact, it takes it for granted. Science has difficulty because consciousness is a subjective concept which no one else is capable of experiencing. This is moving from science to philosophy, but there are scientific explanations of how consciousness arises, and again, google is your friend. Wikipedia has some information on it as well

Amos Moses:
yeah ... it surely does ....... "consciousness is a subjective concept which no one else is capable of experiencing" ... and yet we all do .... and it is not subjective .... if it is then all your observations are subjective ....... INCLUDING any science ........ so that is obviously wrong ............ nope .... not moving anywhere except you are running from what you clearly know but cannot accept ....... science has no explanation for human consciousness and you cant even begin to get to empathy and the rest of your worldview as you would like it to be ........ AND YOU KNOW IT ..........

MCrow:
Consciousness is something we cannot share as an experience. I cannot know the way you interpret data. This is true, and if you claim otherwise, you are lying. That said, reality is objective, and consciousness can evolve as a reaction to pressure. For example, the ability to predict and anticipate. These things allow creatures with consciousness to have advantage over those that do not

Amos Moses:
then YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE of empathy as a path to morality and your position is a LIE ............

MCrow:
Consciousness exists, but each consciousness is different and we are incapable of experiencing other consciousness. We can express it through communication.
Seriously, why is this so difficult to understand

Amos Moses:
you are trying to make a connection between EMPATHY and morality .... and you cannot .... and while your last statement is correct ........ it has NOT ONE THING to do with the assertion you made .... science has no ability to ACCOUNT for how human consciousness arose .... and then how empathy came about and how that was the path to morality .... it is all absolute garbage ......... sounds good in your head i guess as you continue to deny God in your creation ..... but you lack ANY EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER ...........

Bruce Wang:
Here is a paper you need to have a look at, called "The Complex Relation between Morality and Empathy". Replace the semicolon with a period. Just one will do.
spihub;org/site/resource_files/publications/spi_wp_135_decety.pdf

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