TheThirdHelix #fundie disqus.com

TSawesome: That's the kind of "gay stuff" that I usually do... Do I really need to "spell it out for you"?

Heteros are all about sex. You know, that's how we define people -- by what we imagine they *might* so in the privacy of their own homes.

TheThirdHelix: I don't know about the people you talk to, but I've never met any Christians who are particularly eager to discuss homosexuality, homosexual sex acts or anything related. The only reason any of us talk about this at all is because we're constantly bombarded with it and demanded to explain ourselves for our refusal to change our religion to be more accommodating of it.

Most of us would rather talk about almost anything else, but when we're met with lies and propaganda about what the Bible supposedly does or does not condone, we're forced to clarify, which entails explaining precisely what the Bible condemns, which entails naming the specific sin.

Then, when we do, people like you have the audacity to accuse us of being "obsessed" or "preoccupied" with the subject, when no -- it's not us. It's you.

TSawesome: Not from our perspective -- the ones "bombarding" and obsessing over our lives are the fear-mongering Fundamentalists. Tell *them* to knock it off.

TheThirdHelix: How are fundamentalists interfering with you at all, much less "obsessing" over your life?

TSawesome: Let's see... Passing legislation against LGBT in states such as NC, MS and TX, wanting to overturn marriage equality and obsessing by spending their energy arguing about bathrooms for my transgender friends.

All this things are obsessions generated by a fearful group of politicians and pastors afraid of losing power and influence to "others".

It's sad, really, that those people confuse holiness with persecution of some of the smallest and most vulnerable minorities in society.

TheThirdHelix: First of all, it's everybody's business if we're talking about giving grown men legally-mandated access to little girls' restrooms. I really couldn't give two craps about any of your sanctimonious indignation over our refusal to expose little girls to predators in order to enable people with a delusion. So get over it. Nobody's buying it. That you're attributing it to "fearful politicians" and "pastors afraid of losing power" without any regard for the other side of the argument tells me you are totally oblivious to any reality outside of your own precious echo chamber of identity politics and victimhood mongering.

Second, the government historically recognizes marriage because there is a specific public benefit to doing so. It is not because it's the proper role of government to endorse our romantic choices or to validate our sexual preferences. The government is in the marriage game because they know men and women are likely to have sex, sex makes babies, babies thrive with two parents who can divide up and cooperate in nurturing and material support duties, and when they don't have that, they're at a disadvantage later in life -- people who come into the world as bastards in the literal sense tend to grow up into bastards in the pejorative sense. High out-of-wedlock birthrates always lead to increased poverty and crime, which strains social services and public school systems, leading to societal economic hardship, so it's in the public interest for the government to incentivize marriage with tax benefits.

But gay "sex" doesn't make babies. There is no public benefit whatsoever to incentivizing gay "marriage."

And, if it were really about "equality," rather than gay supremacy, the LGBT lobby would have jumped at the compromise offered years ago in the form of civil unions, which would have bestowed all of the same legal benefits and protections as marriage, without calling it "marriage." But, the LGBT lobby, being typical Leftists, thinks the federal government can bestow moral and spiritual legitimacy, and it wanted to use the government as a cudgel against anyone who dares oppose their dogma. And, it's succeeding.

So stop with the persecution complex. You got your way.

I realize victimhood has been a staggeringly effective political weapon for the past 30 years and you don't want to stop using it, so you're still playing the persecution card whenever you possibly can, but you're in danger of overplaying your hand. When athletes are publicly hailed as "heroes" for announcing their gayness and every TV show has one or two gay subplots, giving gays representation in media vastly out of proportion with your actual numbers, and a nearly 70-year-old man wins a "woman of the year" award just for putting on a skirt, AND, on TOP of all that, Christians are losing our businesses and livelihoods because we don't want to participate in your subversion of western civilization ... it's pretty absurd for you to still be playing up the "oppressed and persecuted minority" farce. It's played out. You should quit while you're ahead.

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