they are GOD GIVEN rights and only GOD can take them ............. better go back and read the DOI ......
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ...........
government only SECURES those rights .... they do not grant them ....... evil men do evil things .... especially when they are in power .... but that does not change anyones rights ......
UNALIENABLE ...... means .... MEN cannot take them away ............ no lien can be placed on them ..... but men are continually evil ..........
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Rights are man made not God given.
Personally I think we need far less "rights", more accountability and discipline. A benevolent scientific rule would be preferable to this farce we call "freedom" and "democracy". Have scientists and other very high IQ, genius level people, lead us to a brighter future.
Note that the DOI isn't law, and doesn't name the creator they allude to.
So it's still up to the govt. To identify the rights we do and do not have....
Wait a minute, if God can take rights away, then they're not really "unalienable rights," are they? They're privileges granted temporarily.
@Forscience314
A "benevolent scientific rule" sounds like a fine idea in theory....but how do you make sure it STAYS benevolent?
All just 'Words' on a 'Goddamn Piece Of Paper'.
What say we take away certain ones from such: thus ensuring it's Open Season, "Purge"-style, on you right-wing Fundamental ist Christains...?!
People had the inalienable right to drink Alcohol cruelly wrested away from them: and who were the most fervent in the Prohibition movement...?!
The politicians giveth, and the politicians taketh away. Just as the SCOTUS cruelly wrested away from the likes of you your right to Persecute LGBT people on 26th June 2015.
The DOI =/= the US Constitution.
Let us know when you pass the Bar Exam, Amess . It's why Doug 'Piranha' Jones is in the Senate: and not a paedo judge; a right-wing Fundamental ist one.
So everyone has unalienable rights, and this fact is self evident. Okay. That means that the mother who is intercepted at the border with her toddler has as much right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as every American citizen because the Declaration of Independence is a statement of our values. It does NOT say that these rights apply to Americans only. It says they apply to all because all men are created equal. All.
So for that matter, she presumably also has the right to peaceably assemble, to enjoy free speech, to be free from forced self-incrimination, to have an attorney present during questioning -- not because these are in the Declaration of Independence (they are part of the Constitution) but because the Constitution is based on our values every bit as much as the Declaration of Independence.
they are GOD GIVEN rights ... they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights ...
By the creator, not by god. His Lordship The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Creator, not god, so according to the "DOI", only His Lordship The Flying Spaghetti Monster can take them away.
@KingOfRhye
That is an interesting question. We'd have to uphold meritocratic values.
Psychology and psychiatry can also help us identify psychopathic personalities. Those people would be kept well away from power even if they are smart. They can still be productive, but only under strict lifetime supervision and well away from leadership positions. Even lower scale managerial positions involving authority over just 5 people. No way they are getting anywhere near world power.
Anything to keep the dreaded gays from being treated with equality.
This point was made to him, by the way, and his response was to say that he’s being KINDER to gays by threatening them with hellfire because that is “truth”.
If there was a single word I could ban Christian bigots from using, it would be “truth”, because none of them have a goddamn clue what it means.
So, no man can take the life from another person, or imprison anyone?
Their Creator - that can mean Nature, or Evolution, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Mom&Dad, or...
If they meant God/Allah/YHWH, they could have said so.
Confused?
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