There is way too much emphasis on what the Bible means to me or you, personally. I don't read it to hear what I want to hear; I read it to hear what God has to say. So I'm not interested in sugar coating the truth. I am not interested in flat out ignoring verses in the Bible because I've found some personal reason to think that I should.
I've been pointing out what I see as obvious contradictions. Even if I marry one day and find the idea of submitting to another human being absolutely insufferable, that DOES NOT give me the freedom to reinterpret the Bible in some other way. It doesn't matter what I personally think God should have to say on the matter of a woman's place in the world. It only matters what God actually says about it.
When God says He created man and he became a living soul when God breathed life into him, and that He then put this man to sleep and created a woman from his rib, and then someone here goes on to say "well maybe what God really did was create man through evolution", then we have a serious problem. If you don't believe the whole Bible, you're just picking and choosing what you want to believe, making up your own religion as you go.
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Everyone brings something different to the Bible. That's what you brought. WHATEVER you see in the verses, that doesn't guarantee that someone else is going to interpret it the same way. How do you KNOW that yours is the right way? Are you just always conveniently right? Who are you to presume to know the Will of God as set down in a different language thousands of years ago?
Believe me, you're as picky and choosy as the person who you're talking to. EVERYONE picks and chooses. You choose to take things literally, others choose metaphor, others choose application in the present world in comparison to then... Who really presumes to KNOW?
If you don't believe the whole Bible, you're just picking and choosing what you want to believe, making up your own religion as you go.
Actually, that's one of my reasons to dislike christianity, it's all hogwash anyway.
But it's amusing to hear a fundie say it.
"If you don't believe the whole Bible, you're just picking and choosing what you want to believe, making up your own religion as you go."
Um. So, you stone your neighbor when he wears his business suit to work, right? Oh - and what about the fact that he cuts the hair at his temples short?
Mirror mirror on the wall...
This really is fundieism in a nutshell. The whole bible must be true. For fundies if any part of the bible is false then the whole thing is false. Which explains why they leave the bounds of reality trying to explain how bats really are fowls, how pi really does equal 3, how the earth really is the center of the universe, etc. The best defense fundies have is to not read the whole bible which most don't, and that makes them even funnier.
Someone already brought this up but it's an important issue. If you really do take the entire Bible literally and think it should be followed to the letter, why aren't you out killing gays or at least petitioning to make homosexuality legally punishable by death ???
Congratulations, your last sentence describes the basic contradiction that causes this site to exist. While fundies accuse everyone else of this, they are the world's worst offenders with their cherry-picking verses to fit their agenda(kill the gays, ignore the kill the shell-fish eaters, football players, near-sighted, pork-eaters, and Sunday workers in the surrounding verses). "Rapture" and "saved" are interpretations of scripture, not literal. Your religion is called Christian, so why do you always quote Paul as though he were God's chosen son and ignore Jesus? Why do you demean women(like Paul), when Jesus picked a female (Mary Magdalene) to be the first one to see him risen and spread the Gospel?
"I am not interested in flat out ignoring verses in the Bible because I've found some personal reason to think that I should."
One of the many problems with the Bible is that one HAS to ignore some of the passages. Many passages flatly contradict other passages. The best a Christian can hope for is to be happily hypocritical.
I don't read it to hear what I want to hear; I read it to hear what God has to say.
Um, it still means that you hear what you want to hear. You haven't proven that gawd exists.
Even if I marry one day and find the idea of submitting to another human being absolutely insufferable, that DOES NOT give me the freedom to reinterpret the Bible in some other way.
Of course not. You'll bow down and do as you're told like a good little christian slave wife.
If you don't believe the whole Bible, you're just picking and choosing what you want to believe, making up your own religion as you go.
Yeah, it's funny that you should say something like that....
Every religions and follower cherry picks the Bible. Fundies are the worst. They use the Bible to justify hatred and bigotry. That's why it needs to be kept in a historical context.
Or what the latest interpretation of the book.
There are two different ways Adam and Eve were created, according to Genesis. Which version do you believe?
This is the problem with religion. It's given a voice to brainless robots like you.
So, I'm going to assume you keep Kosher, refuse to work Sunday's, don't wear mixed fabrics, stone a few rape victims, and that your wife covers her hair when she prays and goes to Church? No? Then shut up. Biblical "Literalists" pick and choose just as much as anyone else, they just pretend they OMG take it lyke, totally literally!!!eleventyone"
I think it's funny how fundies claim they take a literal interpretation of the Bible, yet when you ask them how come they never cut out their own eye or hand they say..
"Oh but Jesus didn't really mean.."
In that case, care to explain how snakes speak?, or if I should not approach the altar of the Lord because I wear glasses?, or how can I sin if I eat lobster?
I guess you also don't eat seafood or wear mixed fabrics?
Face it, EVERY Christian, fundies included picks and chooses which parts of the Bible to believe and which to reject.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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