Many scientists believe the dinosaurs disappeared quickly, as in a cataclysmic event. In Luke 10:18, Jesus said he watched Satan fall from heaven like a flash of lightning. This may have been the catastrophe that killed the dinosaurs.
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Satan was the asteroid that caused the extinction of the dinosaurs? The K-T Boundary as evidence for the War in Heaven? A rather curious hypothesis, care to back it up with evidence?
And two points:
1. Our genes have evidence to suggest we evolved. Look up pseudogenes.
2. "Believe in me or else" is is not a choice.
Well, Tom here is closer than most people who make it onto this site, but his idea of the extinction event 65 million years ago is just plain funny, no matter whether you're fundie, atheist, or whatver!
Okay, yeah, sure, whatever.
Happy Holidays to you, too!
At least, he thinks that young earth creationism is wrong. But problem, almost any event, specially in that allegoric language, that the Bible outlines, can be used to interpret almost anything. If it's so clear, why didn't the shepperds who told first that story know not even a tenth part of what we know today?
Jesus was born millions of years after the dinosaurs were wiped out, and "a flash of lightning" is not exactly a "global catastrophy".
"True evolutionists"? "Evolutionism" isn't a religion. There's no such thing as a "false evolutionist". Evolution is science. You can have different opinions about it, but that does not make someone "not a true evolutionist".
Your concept of "pro-choice" is .... retarded enough for me to ignore it hence forth.
"I can only speculate, but probably many atheistic evolutionists consider themselves the only true evolutionists."
Fundies really can't tell the difference between science and religion.
"I can only speculate"
Why yes, you're pretty good at that. I like the bit about the Satan-impact killing the dinosaurs. Charming.
"The atheistic evolutionists may retort that I believe in God merely because I want to believe in heaven. The retort is true. But it’s also true I believe in Jesus simply because he wants me to."
Hahaha, you got me there. You win.
"Jesus has the ability to cause people to believe in him"
Why doesn't he just cause everyone to believe in him then? You are na-fucking-ive. But you don't seem to have the cruel streak so common in fundies, so Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you.
"scientists believe"
No we don't.
Many scientists believe the dinosaurs disappeared quickly, as in a cataclysmic event.
Actually, they believe the dinosaurs that were left disappeared quickly. Plenty of dinosaurs went extinct along the way. The stegosaurus and apatosaurus (brontosaurus) were long extinct before the dinosaurs disappeared.
Skeptic: why do you believe God exists?
Fundie: Because He wants me to.
Skeptic: But how can God "want you to" if He doesn't exist?
Fundie: I believe God exists.
Skeptic: But why do you believe God exists?
Fundie: Because He wants me to.
Skeptic: (bangs head against wall and wanders off ...)
attila, I think you're reading too much into it. This guy seems a bit delusional, but not hateful. I think he's trying to be civil with nonbelievers by not forcing his religious holiday down our throats.
No, I could imagine a person who thinks that God, being all-seeing, but not all-knowing, designed natural selection to create his creatures for him. Though to me, natural selection seems as natural as gravity.
Happy Earth's Orbit Day!
No, I could imagine a person who thinks that God, being all-seeing, but not all-knowing, designed natural selection to create his creatures for him. Though to me, natural selection seems as natural as gravity.
Happy Earth's Orbit Day!
There was a big grin on my face as I read the first paragraph. I actually began to be hopeful as I read "The young earth theory is probably wrong" Then I remembered what site we were on, but still, this one isn't as bad as a lot of the others.
"...many atheistic evolutionists consider themselves the only true evolutionists."
Possibly. But then, there's also probably a good deal of people who consider themselves the queen of mars. It doesn't mean they are. However, in my personal experience, most of the Only True Scotsman-esque problems fall on religion, not scientific theory.
"I can only speculate, but probably many atheistic evolutionists consider themselves the only true evolutionists."
I don't know anyone who considers themselves an "evolutionist." Just like no one considers themselves a gravitarian.
The young Earth theory is probably wrong.
That's one thing we agree on.
Concerning evolution, it is noteworthy that not all evolutionists are atheists. I can only speculate, but probably many atheistic evolutionists consider themselves the only true evolutionists.
You're partially right. Most people who believe in evolution also believe in a supreme being. And not all atheists believe in evolution, there are some fringe lunatic who think aliens brought life to Earth.
I can't help but notice that Jesus happened to watch Satan fall to Earth BEFORE (according to your bible) the first man and woman. I guess that makes Jesus a time traveler too.
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I can't help but notice that Jesus happened to watch Satan fall to Earth BEFORE (according to your bible) the first man and woman. I guess that makes Jesus a time traveler too.
response:
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Oh come on, he wasn't THAT bad! He was rather tolerant most of the time, overall logical, very polite, & only digressed into 1 or 2 Fundie moments.
Not the best record, but still, not very Fundie.
OMG, FSTDT material in comments:
I have a leg bone and a cow has a leg bone. Oh my goshhhhhh, I evolved from a cow. Actually, I have a coccyx, not a tail bone (slang).
Geez.
Here's the problem.
Since, according to the bible, Jay-sus, lived about 2,000 years ago, and virtually anyone with an IQ. larger than their shoe size would realized that dinosaurs (not counting birds) died out millions of years ago...
I'd have to say that while this guys almost in the land of reason... but got lost someone along the way.
This guy needs to read books other than the bible.
KnightWhoSaysNi wrote:
"I can't help but notice that Jesus happened to watch Satan fall to Earth BEFORE (according to your bible) the first man and woman. I guess that makes Jesus a time traveler too."
No no no no. You know how there are those New Testament passages where Jesus basically says he's always existed? You know, "And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began " from John 17:5, and stuff?
I think Tom H. is claiming that this pre-existing "Pre-Jesus Jesus" watched Satan fall from the sky 65 MYa.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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