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Hi guys my first comment here
Anyway, CRAP. They found me out!
To be fair, I did have a bad church experience once. I went to it and it bored the crap out of me. Didn't change my theological views, though.
"I think they had a bad church experience "
Well, if you consider being bored out of my skull by the inane ramblings of the preacher a "bad experience," then sure, I guess.
or were abused early in life by a relative or neighbor who happened to go to church and now harbor bitterness and hatred. "
Nope.
The absent father syndrome is another reason "
Still a big nope.
That's not always the case but most of it "
I'd like to see your PhD and your body of work and research supporting that assertion, please.
Keep praying for them. "
Yeah, you keep doing that. I'm sure it will be just as effective now as it has been for the past several thousand years. *eyeroll*
I had good experiences with church. Our churches were pretty liberal, the pastors and youth group leaders were actually quite a lot of fun, the sermons usually interesting, even insightful and relevant sometimes.
However...
Too often, there is no reason for the rules, and blind faith is required. Even that might be all right, if those rules hurt no one. Except it seems to usually lead into baseless discrimination against a group of people, and I just can't do that.
The absent father syndrome is another reason
We didn't buy it with regard to gays, and we're not buying it this time either.
Yeah, I had a bad church experience.
I went to church and saw that it didn't make sense.
Ritualistic cannibalization of ancient Jewish zombie WHAT?
"I think they had a bad church experience..."
In my case, this is true. After eating a bad casserole at a church picnic, I instantly became a militant atheist, raving about how I hated God.
Lesson for you Christians: serve only pizza and pretzels at your functions!
What an arrogant cumstain. Concern over her perceived reasons for not having faith? Noooo...why would we do that. Attempt to reach out to those who are lost? Noooo...that's the godless humanist way. Put yourself on a pedestal, and wave the "I'm going to heaven and you're not, so neener neener neener" flag? There's the Christian way!
I had a boring church experience with nice but bland people, was never abused or molested, and my parents were married for 51 years. It's just that on close and thorough examination, their religion turned out to be bullshit rationalization of garbled mythology. Buzzardbutt just can't face that, and so is groping for another excuse.
Yes, my father is a christian, but he's still around and he never abused me, so fuck off, douche bag. I'm an atheist because I prefer using my grey cells to being a submissive fucktard like you.
No, the problem with us that we have brains and we use them. We somehow overcame the brainwashing and abuse that was foisted on many of us during our youths and just do not accept things without questioning them, without seeing some evidence.
Also, you are a fucking idiot.
"were abused early in life by a relative or neighbor who happened to go to church and now harbor bitterness and hatred."
First off, no. Second off, you'd be surprised how large the number of sexual or physically abusive adults are devout church-goers. Food for thought...
I think they had a bad church experience or were abused early in life by a relative or neighbor who happened to go to church and now harbor bitterness and hatred.
FAIL and FAIL
The absent father syndrome is another reason
FAIL
EDIT:
Dear fundies, Poe refers to Poe's law. ;-)
I don't get these people are they actually serious in what they say? I read the thread this was quoted from and some of those people say they are sarcastic most of the time. They always say we quote them out of context as well, it's like they just learned that word and they use it all the time for everything.
Ah, how easy it is to stereotype someone you know nothing about into your image of how that person should be. The Xians are not exclusive to this, we are guilty of it too from time to time.
While I was never raped by an acquaintence and I still have my Dad around, I did have a "bad" church experience: I was forced to go to mass six days a week, every weekday for the Catholic grade school I attended and every Sunday with my family of course. I don't even want to calculate the time wasted sitting there listening to our two old, cruddy priests go on and on about heaven and hell.
Buzzard, if you ever read this, I did not have a bad church experience, I have never been abused, and my father was there for me.
I just don't like people using their religion as an excuse not to use the brains God gave them. Remember the parable of the talents?
Yeah, that's why I don't believe in Thor. I was abused my an Uncle who worshipped him.
Do you see?
Why am I even bothering....
think they had a bad church experience
That bad experience was the pastor filling my head full of stupid shit with no creditable sources.
I also think he was eyeing me up on more than one occassion.
There is a large group of atheist and agnostics in this nation. You cannot generalize them.
I grew up in a good church, I have a father, and I was never abused growing up.
Check mate my friend.
EDIT: I just now noticed the typo in my name. LOL at my stupidity.
Let's see...nope, never had a bad church experience, wasn't abused as a child by anyone. And while my parents did separate, I still got to see my dad a lot, so I know that has nothing to do with it. I had a glorious life with extremely loving parents. But since I'm an atheist you still have to assume something went terribly wrong in my life, don't ya?
That's fine. It's your delusion, not mine.
Wasn't abused by family members, relatives, or neighbors of any religious persuasion, and my Dad was always there.
Nope, I had a bad acid trip in a church once, that's what did it for me. I thought my pew was an oyster and the carpet was lime jello, and I was chased by the incense and began shouting "go tell it on the mountain". Since then, I avoid churches because they give me flashbacks. But BuzzardHut was close, I'll give him that.
How to answer this nonesense with words of one syllable so even YOU can understand: NO
my father and uncle were both made altarboys (as punishment I recall). My grandmother lives next to a church.
Never been abused, the entire family's almost disturbingly happy in their marriages, most of whom are "sorta kinda believing in gawd" at best. The majority are agnostic or atheist.
Yet none of us are beating or molesting our kids/wives, and believe that if a book tells you to kill people for wearing two kinds of fabric or because your kid insulted you, then that book's obviously not worth bothering with; its nothing but hatespeech.
(the doctors, engineers -myself included-, nurses, geologist and two historians in the family don't help the whole 'believing' part either. We believe in reality.)
Sorry. I didn't realize being sexually assaulted by the music minister at my former church (who, incidentally, was old enough to be my grandfather) and subsequently being called a liar by my pastor and forced into asking for this music minister's forgiveness for "spreading rumors and bearing false witness against him" in front of the entire congregation wasn't a good enough reason to abandon Christianity.
I guess I missed the memo that said regardless of how you're treated by those who profess Christ you're still supposed to bow down and kiss his ass.
Just one more thing. What I find so amusing is how they like to try and claim that we have no lives and how we must live to wake up in the morning, get on their site and find shit to make fun of. Is that really any different than waking up every day, turning on the news to foam at the mouth over any news that talks about natural disasters, the election or Israel while simultaneously looking up at the sky to see if Jesus is in the clouds?
Second, it really pisses me off that LynGraphics made the comment about how she got so freaked out when she found out one of her posts had been linked here that she changed the avatar that she had with her children on it. We're non-christians, not fucking pedophiles. In fact, most pedophiles come from Christian upbringing. What does that tell you?
You're THINKING! Best way to get banned by Rupture Ready.
Let's see...No, no, and no.
100% Fail. Thanks for playing. We have some lovely gifts for you as you leave.
@KatAutumn ... that sounds beyond awful, what a double betrayal. But you make such a good point too ... Buzzardhut thinks that's an unreasonable cause for leaving the church, but you point out his absurdity.
*waves at posters from RR*
@Michael: first of all I'm rather envious. All those ancient manuscripts and the ability to unfold history. Seriously exciting!
@Elphaba "Not long ago there was a quote here and I'm paraphrasing, "If the KJV was good enough for Moses and Jesus it's good enough for me." That's what you're dealing with. Plus, they say God actually wrote the Bible. Go figure."
I actually liked going to church when I was little. It meant I got to stay the night with my grandparents, dress up, and sing. After about 1/2 hour, all the kids would go into another building, and we'd play games, sometimes not even Christianity related.
No, actually I didn't have any church experience (or very little) because my parents didn't abuse me by taking me to church to hear how everybody is bad and you will burn in hell for eternity if you don't ask zombie-Jesus to be your personal slavemaster. I did go to Sunday School on my own initiative a few times, because some of my friends went and I wanted to see what all the fuss was about with religion, I got bored of it pretty quick though. I really don't remember much about it.
I've gone to to church with Christian relatives a few times since then, on Christmas eve and Easter, They do a lot more singing on special occasions I think and I like that. I like singing. I don't agree with a lot of what they sing about, but I like singing.
And my parents were happily married, right until my mother was killed by a car. My father wasn't perfect, especially after that because he was depressed and stuff, but he did the best he could and he sure as heck didn't abandon me.
The reason I deny your religion is because it contradicts reality, logic, and common sense.
Yep, MASSIVE fail. I spent the first 20 fucking years of my life in a pew twice a week for mass and bible study, shit, my father was and still is a Youth Minister for a Catholic church. Once I started actually thinking for myself and actually :gasp!: researching information, I left the church. And never looked back. Not for a bad experience, not for anything other than actually figuring out reality for myself. And I don't mean your mythical, fairy tale faux reality that can't be proven, I mean reality that can actually be backed up by evidence & science. And I'm happier than I've ever been.
I think they had a bad church experience or were abused early in life by a relative or neighbor who happened to go to church and now harbor bitterness and hatred.
That's not always the case but most of it
-Feel free to direct me to some credible evidence supporting your claim.
Keep praying for them.
I have a present father, and I am sure that, regarding your comment, you do have present fathers too, do you agree?. I actually think that most of you had actually bad church experience, yes, some pastors can be anything but Christ-like and your comments help a lot too. You know, try not to give Christianity a bad name for a while.
Lessee...
1. Never had a bad church experience, just started finding it harder and harder to believe in what was being said as I grew up and grew independant of my parents.
2. I was never abused.
3. Dad was around all my life. Granted, he was in the military and would be away from home for several weeks at a time but he always kept in touch.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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