Lori: So the Atheists are offended by God being in the Homeland Security plaque eh?
No, I couldn't give a fuck about what is says on the plaque, I'm offended that a state I used to call home would so blatantly violate both the letter and the spirit of the US constitution.
You know what? I will be offended if it is NOT in there
Just because it would offend you doesn't give you an excuse to violate the law, just as it doesn't give me an excuse to violate it also. I oppose the wording not because I'm an atheist, and not because it offends me, but because it is against the law.
95% of American's are NOT offended by this so why should we change it for the 5% that are?
Because it is against the law
That is so ignorant. If they don't like it. Don't read it and may the good Lord have mercy on their souls.
The only one ignorant is you. Igrorant of the concepts that make america what it is. Ignorant of the restrictions that the constitution puts on government. Ignorant of the precedent that is set when those restrictions are violated and the violation isn't challenged. It doesn't matter whether I like it or not, IT IS AGAINST THE LAW. Are you incapable of getting that through your head?
Gale: Let's take all these atheists and send them to Iraq and other war areas and see who they call on to get them home safe.
This might shock you but there are atheists in foxholes, and you know what they do when under fire? They fight back just like they have been trained to do. Only a fool drops to their knee's during combat to pray to god that they don't get harmed. It's not as if there are no atheists in the military, and your a damned fool if you think that is the case.
"G": I cannot believe that a small group of atheist try to control the gov
They aren't trying to control the government, they are just trying to hold the goverment to the standards that were set for it by the founders.
by taking god out of the state home land securty
The constitution took "god" out of the government long before "homeland Security" was an issue.
if you unbelievers don't like the way the gov is run then keep your damm mouth shut.
Excuse me? I could have thought that you just told me that my right to free speech was dependant on being religious. Let me tell you this, When the government, be it state or federal, violates any part of the constitution it is the responsible citizen that speaks out, patriots don't "keep your damm mouth shut", they speak out and fight against government when it violates the rights of the people, including the right to not have government dictated by religion.
"Anonymous": Can you say MONEY, MONEY, MONEY? Thats what this is all about.
Can you say freedom of religion? Can you say 1st ammendment?
They don't believe in God so it should just be another word three letter to them. Can we sue them for not believing in God?
It's about the priciple of the constitution. And no, you cannot sue me for not believing in god. There is no law that says I have to believe in any god, there is however, a law and several SCotUS rulings that say it is against the law for the government, local, state, or federal, to favor any one religion, which is exactly what your state gov't has done.
William: God is Love
So you say.
so they want Love out of homeland sucerity? they want a hateful homeland sucerity?
You haven't the slightest idea what your going on about do you? Please either go back to grade school and learn how to spell, or quit doing things that require you to do things like write.
Mike: I suppose the next thing on their agenda should be filing suit to have The Declaration of Independence edited to their satisfaction.
I see no problems with the non christian wording of the DoI. Not that it means anything, the DoI isn't a government document and has no bearing of effect upon the laws of the US. Deal with that.
Personally, I'd like to sue to force them to remove "American" from the name of this whiny, insipid little band of pinheads.
I'm sure you would, now who's being elitist? It doesn't suprise me one bit that you would like to strip the citizenship of everybody who doesn't believe in your god, after all, that's what bigots do. What you don't hear is atheist calling for your citizenship to be stripped because you do believe in a god, but I'm sure you'll still cry persecution regardless.
But it's all irrelevant because you can't, but just remember, it you allow something like that to be done to us then you have opened the door of it to be used against yourself also, and believe me sooner of later somebody would.