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Why is Obama unconcerned about bad science in the name of evolution?

Haekel fraudently made drawings of fetal emrio over 150 years ago and the fraud was known at the time and yet even the late Stephen J Gould lamented that these drawing were copied even to this day in public school science texts, high school science books and amazingly even in college text books on science. Obama expresses concern about bad sciece form intelligent design and creationism and yet bad sciecne abounds uncritically in science texts in the name of evolution. Why does he give it a pass.

whirlingmerc & relaxification, Yahoo Answers 36 Comments [1/17/2009 3:39:14 AM]
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Whatchoo talkin bout, Emrio?

1/17/2009 3:42:27 AM

Lucilius

Yeah, because all Darwin's work, all the supporting evidence from genetics, all the fossil series, and all the work by every evolutionary biologist for the last century is invalidated by a crappy drawing. What pathetic desperation.

1/17/2009 3:47:46 AM

Ayersy

You can't even spell science...so shush.

1/17/2009 3:48:33 AM

Darwin's Lil' Girl

Throughout all this mess of word salad and butchered grammar I actually managed to make some sense of this...

Evolution is fundamental to biology. ID and Creationism aren't even anything resembling science. See the difference? No, of course you don't. You're on Y!A.

1/17/2009 3:49:34 AM

Old Viking

We'll deduct ten points for every fraud discovered during the development of the theory of evolution if you'll deduct ten for every fraud discovered during the development of Christianity.

1/17/2009 3:57:18 AM

The Watcher

Probably for the same reason you don't end questions with question marks.

1/17/2009 4:00:29 AM

Illuminatalie

drawings of fetal emrio
Emrio? Haha. You big smart.

college text books on science
Ooh, yes, that big book that had 'Science' on the cover. I had that book, I think.

yet bad sciecne abounds uncritically in science texts in the name of evolution
Is that the best English you could manage, you illiterate kumquats? That sounds like it was made with a random sentence generator : "Yet happy acne whistles greasily under laboratory skulls in the land of mordor".

1/17/2009 4:10:55 AM

Zoo

That's not the only thing that's wrong with public school biology texts (and honestly I learned about this specific thing as a 'look at what someone used to think, and now look at the evidence we have to prove otherwise', though I think that may have been college level; I don't think we saw that in our high school book). The classification system many of them teach (as mine did) has been out of date for at least a couple of decades now, for example.

The thing is, books cost way too much money, and they're the responsibility of the local school boards, which are run by whoever the local people are willing to elect. Obama could perhaps say something about it, but I don't know really what more he could do (except repeal NCLB and let the teachers actually teach, but that's a completely separate topic). ID/creationism is a prominent nationally debated/contested topic, and one that was relevant to the campaign given who was running in the end. Seems appropriate he would comment on it.

If you're so worried about it, why don't you email him and see what he says? Better yet, get a look at your local district's books and complain to the local school board if you find that illustration being taught as current fact (be sure to READ THE ACCOMPANYING TEXT CAREFULLY!). You can't expect the president of the entire country to fix every single local problem in the place.

1/17/2009 4:13:37 AM



Why did any of your English teachers give you a passing grade?

1/17/2009 4:15:25 AM



I can't believe they're still harping on this....The errors in those drawings have been well known for decades and are not taught as fact anywhere.

1/17/2009 4:20:15 AM

topaz_witch

Please, don't use big words to try to sound smart if you ignore basic grammer rules.

1/17/2009 4:23:16 AM



So now Obama is responsible for everything that's written in science textbooks? Are you fucking kidding me?

1/17/2009 4:32:35 AM

Oirish_Martin

Don't worry, the crappy teaching will be fixed. But that doesn't mean your shitty science will be put in either ;)

1/17/2009 4:33:02 AM

Thinking Allowed

I'd be more concerned with your spelling, sentence structure and typos than Obama with bad science.

1/17/2009 4:35:49 AM

werewolf

The spelling, the grammar, it's blinding!

Wait! Two people wrote this dreck?

1/17/2009 4:50:49 AM

Shenron

Finding a rock in a pile of gold nuggets doesn't make the rest of the pile rocks, does it? Think about that for a few minutes.

1/17/2009 4:56:37 AM

A Friend

Science isn't bound to dogma like religion is. If something is invalidated then big freaken dea,l science goes on.

1/17/2009 5:00:10 AM

Quaffer

I do not recall Bush being too concerned about this either.

1/17/2009 5:06:57 AM

DevilsChaplain

Okay, here's the time period you're stuck in:


And here's where we are:

Please get with the program and progress into the 21st Century. Furthermore, I think Obama'll be busy enough as it is, what with two wars and a global economic disaster already on his plate....

1/17/2009 5:21:17 AM

LOLWUT

I wonder why we let people teach lies to children. Why was Kent Hovind thrown in jail only when he stopped paying taxes? He should have been locked up long ago for the damage he's been doing to your country.

1/17/2009 6:17:12 AM

Osiris

You do realize that what you are talking about is over 100 years old. Do you even realize the amount of progress science has made in evolution since then?

1/17/2009 6:45:24 AM

Nowonmai

You and your bible has been bamboozling and trying to force people to stay ignorant, and if you had your way, you would drag everyone in the world back into the dark ages.

Go away.

1/17/2009 7:14:55 AM

aaa

And why do you advocate pseudo-science?

1/17/2009 9:56:10 AM

Grimesy

Yawn... change the fucking record!

1/17/2009 12:31:22 PM

OHAtheist

I admit that there were images of Haeckel's embryos in my High School general science textbook. They were there as an example of how science just fucking works, and how that when many people are allowed to ask questions, we learn a helluva lot more than we do with just a guy making shit up.

1/17/2009 12:36:59 PM

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