You've never studied Genisis and held it up to scientific facts, have you?
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I have: 37 scientific errors in the first 17 chapters, and that's ignoring self-contradictions and repeats, and taking into account that I am only a lay-scientist. Specialists in each of the pertinent fields would likely find many more errors
Typical yes I did, no you didn't argument.
Let me keep it simple:
In response to your question, in one word...
YES.
More elaborate version: Yes, we have.
Even more elaborate: Yes, we have, and we believe Genesis to be a complete and utter FARCE.
Yeah, Genesis is a fairly typical creation myth, although unusual in its monotheism, and doesn't come within a mile of scientific accuracy.
Yeah, thanks, Anon, but we can look it up for ourselves.
Though thanks for pointing out the two contradictory stories.
Here are just a few of the contradictions. Anonymous 1 will now cover his eyes and insist that they aren't there:
Genesis 1:29
Behold, I have given your every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree ... to you it shall be for meat.
vs.
Genesis 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it.
Genesis 7:17
And the flood was forty days upon the earth
vs.
Genesis 7:24
And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
Genesis 8:3
And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the one hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
Genesis 8:4
And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.
vs.
Genesis 8:5
And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
Genesis 10:5
By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands, every one after his tongue.
and one chapter later,
Genesis 11:1
And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
Genesis 22:2
Take now thy [Abraham's] son, thine only son Isaac, ... and offer him there for a burnt offering.
vs.
Genesis 16:15
And Hagar bare Abraham a son: and Abram called his son's name, which Hagar bare, Ishmael.
The flood story says that all beings that weren't on the ark perished, but later books talk about the giants who apparently survived.
@ anon 1
The contradiction has been shown. 1 Genesis has Man and Woman created together after the animals, 2 Genesis has Man created, then the animals, then Woman. It's clearly a contradiction. The fact that it's not the only contradiction doesn't matter.
clearly has the wrong Bible. a 'help meet'? i presume that's supposed to be 'help mate', which is a poor translation. read mine, it's correct. It's the King James. You know, the basic standard generic Bible.
Also, you nitpicked a phrase and disregarded the request. You claim there are no contradictions. We have shown contradictions. Please explain.
@247625 - We're referring to this:
Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought [them] unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that [was] the name thereof.
Clearly Adam was created before the animals.
If you won't consider anything but the first chapter, explain the contradiction inherent in light being present before any sources of light were created and there being "evening and morning" before the sun existed.
The fundamental (hee!) problem here is that not just fundies, but virtually all faithful Christians and probably most Jews sidestep the self-evident fact that when taken together, Genesis 1 and 2 average out to a garbled mess. I'm pretty sure I noticed that the first time I read Genesis, because it seemed awfully weird compared to the way the kids' bible stories books presented it.
#662109: Those aren't in Genesis, so they don't count. :P
Fundie: AKA: "You don't believe in my special brand of fairy tale, so I'm going to assume that you're just ignorant. What, you aren't? LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALA."
I've never studied "Genisis", but I have studied Genesis, and yes, have held it up to scientific scrutiny, and it fails miserably, like the rest of the babble does.
"You've never studied science and the Theory of Evolution and compared to religious mythology, have you?"
That's what you meant to say, isn't it?
We have (if it's GenEsis, the first book of the Bible you mean), that's what turned us into agnostics or atheists.
If you build a woman out of a man's rib, she will be XY just like he is, and would therefore be a man, genetically speaking.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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