[Told to another theist who was rationally questioning the doctrine of Hell as illogical and unfair]
I seriously recommend you don't apply science to death. It will lead you to convince yourself of arguements that simply deceive you. Eternal life comes through faith, nothing more... nothing less.
I dont know about you guys, but I don't care how my chicken or meat is killed. Whether its drowned, suffocated, hacked into bits, however, its still going to end up in my stomach and then in a drainage thingy. It really doesn't matter. Whether chickens are stomped on, thrown against a wall, we're still going to eat them. Why does it matter?
Paradoxes are for people who think they are too smart for their own damn good.
This subject sucks. How the hell are you a christian yet believe that crap? besides eveloution is so over talked its sick... You are stupid for bringing this up again. Anyway, whats your damn problem? We were cave men? yea right! God brought all the animals to Adam and had him name them. You think a [censored] cave man could name every animal known to man? Oh and it happened over billions of years? yea that fits with the 6 days stated in the bible, that was probably a typo right? If you really are a christian I suggest you actually take some time to read the Bible.
yeah thats true, but I just happen to disagree with the whole theistic evolution, mainly because of the lack of Biblical evidence...
Atheists are hypocrits because in all reality they are the most closed-minded people in the human race.
Doesn't it make you a little nervous that the God/Jesus of the Bible in which you don't beleive in, can't be disproved?
At one time the wisest men on earth believed the earth was flat, the sun rotated around the earth, the atom couldn't be split and on and on.
If I'm wrong, I just die and never know if I'm wrong. If you're wrong...well, lets just say, bring a fan.
[Replying to 'unsupported assertion']why don't you just go away? Let the Christians debate..you better pray to your chance God that I don't ever become a moderator or something. your entire brain is an unsupported assertion.
[Comparing masturbation to murder]
And to the bright ones who say 'if it makes you feel good, why not.' So your saying, if I kill someone, merely because I want to feel power, and feel alive/good... It's ok, because what.. It makes me feel good? haha...
ok ill put it this way then..... being gay is not normal..... there i said it..... now accuse me of being a hate monger, ect., ect. its disgusting gross and not normal... why do you think a majority of churches wont do it... O well this only means The coming of Jesus is one day closer. Prepare my friends for we all know what happend at sodom and gomorah.
[To a person complaining of pain from surgery]
Your a chick so fair enough...
If you were a guy I would've said 'stop being a pussy and take it like a man'".
One more thing that is always said by atheists is "No one has ever been killed because of atheism." I beg to differ..I believe that every death since the beginning of time was due to atheism. Even the crusades...I believe every single solitary sin, even little white lies, even by a Christian, is caused by atheism...
We are getting smarter as humans. Organization from chaos? Cancels out evolution as a plausable theory in my book.
Yeah I like this side of the fence. We can be weak and not have the ability to resist our fleshly lusts. All of this we can do without a loving being breathing down our necks warning us of the danger we are in. And on top of all that fun, we get to go to hell! Woooo hooooo! I just can't wait.
Atheism - For the Common sense impaired.
Du, that's Pathetic.
[If I were God] id probably just wipe them all out honestly...people talk about how wrathful the God of the OT was but really he was quiet merciful...
When your about 80 and possibly deing of cancer, conjestive heart failure, etc. I am sure you will start to feel a little on edge about the fact that there MIGHT be a God, and possibly a God that could save you from your disease and let your pain go away.
Adam and Steve.. haha Thanks for the post man, I couldn't agree more
all I'm saying is DO NOT EVER draw your own conclusion.
Thousands upon thousands of scientists are creationists, so that sorta counterballances your few, doesn't it?
I'm tired of people misrepresenting Christianity. We do not believe that God sends people to hell for being nonbelievers. We believe that the only way to avoid being justly condemned is to acknowledge our sinful nature and take advantage of the salvation that Jesus willingly provided.
all the people who have schizophrenia need for a friend is God-they don't have to make someone up in the back of their head-i'm not too familar with schizophrenia, but a friend of mine has it-she said she wished for a friend, and then she "heard a voice of a woman" in the back of her head-they wish for a true friend so badly that their mind (or, rather their heart) plays tricks on them to thinking they have someone in the back of their head, because the desire was so strong-they need God, a REAL and TRUE Friend
The anti Christ will be part jew and will come from europe
So your saying that God is just made up in the human mind? Wrong. God talks about this in James. If you doubt when you ask, your as unsteady as a wave on the sea being driven by the wind. Also, how can God do what you asked Him when you don't belive your going to recive what you asked for?
Sounds like your brainwashed into belive God isn't real and you don't want anyone to tell you otherwise.
lol..like it really matters wheather you feel like something or not, you are nothing w/o God, I am nothing w/o God. It's nice that you have convinced yourself that anything you do good really matters, it's nice that you think you know what good is, good for you is not good for me, and good for me is not the same as someone else. Obviously good for Hitler and Pol Pot wasen't good for the Jews, but what does it matter, WE ALL DIE!! but until you are able to conquer death then anything you do on earth matters not, if there is no God.
They have no possible way to know of what happend a million years ago,let alone a couple billion. Well,if they have a way to know,i'd like some proof. a million bucks says no one will be able to give me some proof...
[On what they'll be doing in heaven once they get there]
To answer the point of this thread...
We (who are saved) will be judging angels, haveing a 1000 year millenial reign with God as heavenly host, while the jews are in a eutopia on earth due the fact that Satan is bound.
This is after the tribulation....
PM me if you have any questions.
How can science explain why things were created? And I don't accept other relgion's reasons for why because of problems I have with the other religions. If I don't believe what the rest of the religion says, why would I believe what it says about creation?
Science has shown that were made out of dust just like the bible and they have also done experiments in trying to prove evolution but they failed. Also many tests year after year the age of earth would change. 4 billion, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 12, etc. years. Rescently they have discovered that the universe is made of subtomic particals.
This is an uneducated statement because I've heard nothing but contradictions of evolution from evolutionists and creationists. The fact that there is still apes is one of millions.
Since when are diests not a subset of Christians? I consider myself both a Christian and a Diest, though I have a fairly unique set of beliefs. I don't see why the belief that God designed the world for us to try to understand excludes the belief in Jesus as savior.
Proponents of "choice" don't want to force women to have abortions? Since when? China does it now. And if you think for a minute that justifying abortion morally and legally does not translate into forced abortion as a realistic means of population control in the future, then you are not being honest with yourself.
Ok heres the truth. Evolution is false, and Creation is true. You ask how's that. Well First off Im a Chistian and I know that God Created the Universe, and second how can something so Beautiful just appear like that? Its impossible. I mean Baseball or Basketball or cars just didnt appear just like that they have to be thought about and then they have to be created. So thats my explanation.
i used to think pot was cool, that was until i basically learned it was a harmless substance, then im thinking what is so cool about something as soft as pot. it is a pussies drug for people who are too scared to anything harder, and if they do that, then they're just an idiot.
Why do you think a homosexual lifestyle doesn't hurt others? I believe a homosexual lifestyle does affect others, just like pornography, masturbation, and smoking pot hurts others. [Emphasis added]
Christians do not think science is useless, we just interpret the facts in a different yet completely rational way. God created things with the appearence of age. Please show me how the existance of a God is irrational.
let me break it down
If u call urself a democrat u believe...
Abortion is always ok
we should never use missles or go to war
no one but cops should carry guns
we should make pot legal(yes its true)
gays and lesbians can marry
If u call urself a republican u believe...
Abortion is wrong in every sense of the word
there are times for war and times to use missles
u should have a gun if u are responsable ITS OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS
all drugs are wrong period
gays and lesbians shouldnt marry nor adopt children
I PERSONNALY hate our goverment system because it is run by democrats almost and when democrats ran the country they pass all the stupid laws so yea im a republican
If i could stand there personally and show you, 666 is in the barcode... its not something you can just glance at and be like 'oh hey there is 666 this bag of chips is doomed to hell!!! hahaha' If it was that obvious it probly would be harder to market. Its there though i promise and go ahead and mock me... Its ok i got no hate for ignorance just no understanding.
[Replying to thread started by another Christian; the topic title was provocative, but what was said was that the Bible should be respected but taken with a grain of salt because it was written for the ancients]
too long, didnt read, but i completely disagree with your thread title and it doesnt matter what you wrote, because you can never prove that your right. so shut up and stop trying to destroy the faith of the people that truly believe in the bible. your really stupid if you tink you can convince people that the bible is wrong, because its not wrong, its right because i believe its right.
Thinking without the bible is like a carpenter trying to work without his tools.
one thing that always intrigues me is time is based on Jesus and his walk to the cross... [He] must of been doing some cool [CENSORED] to be that important that time is based on his very existance...
the thing about Jesus is that he declared himself to be the only way... he is either self centered or God in the flesh. you can guess what i think about Him. krishna and allah lead to Hell. follow them if you want to.
If I were to serve you dinner, and you asked for table salt, or sodium chloride, and I gave you sodium and chlorine, I could go to jail (if you inhaled too much chlorine). There is a substantive difference between the parts and the whole - most people recognize that. Once a sperm has fertilized an egg - everything is there, it is whole, just immature.
He can not be disproven either!!
Faith is all we need to belive and have proof of GOD.
although i can not prove God YOU can not disprove GOD. Thank you.
geez why are u all so thick headed u dont have faith? or too lazy to belive? plz read the proof! The bible.
I know that I was asked to remove my signature which said 'DARWINS MOTHER WAS AN ASS' by the moderators which kinda pissed me off, but it's not mysite so I did what I was asked.
I am constantly being attacked with depression,
anger and lust and even family problems along with money issues.
I am very happy for that cause it tells me that I am a threat to
satan
The kind of macro evolution we are taught in schools says that we came from: *drum roll please* NOTHING!!! That nothing EXPLODED!!! (how does nothing explode?) and turning into PLANETS and the STARS!!! which got RAINED ON!!! for a few billion years!!! which turned it into PRIMORDEAL SUOP!!! which evolved in TWO CELLS!!! of DIFFERENT GENDERS!!! which FOUND EACH OTHER!!! in all that primeordal soup. Quite a trick, if you ask me... which takes more faith, Believing THAT, or believing that God created in 6 literal days, as it states in Genisis.
[On infants dying of horrendous, torturous birth defects]
Chew on this.
Innocent child is brought into this world! This child is terminally ill and will not survive. This child has not yet had the oppurtunity to sin or lead a sinfull life whatsoever.
Thusfare, the child dies (in wordly fashion) and goes to GOD's kingdom.
Meaning no life of sin, but an eternity of eternal and everlasting life!
[To another poster who was arguing sex before marriage isn't wrong]You want a wife who has it open like a 7-11. Not only that you want everyone else to whore it up so you can feel better about yourself. And we wonder why divorce is up? You give std's a bad name!
[Replying to 'if someone had a gun to your kid's head and asked if you believed in God']
Trust in God. All things work for his Glory and it will be best in the end. Thus, never deny God. If your child is killed he won't have to go through the hardships of life and is with the lord so double bonus to him.
My point from the beginning was that STD's are God's way of preventing pre-marital sexual relations. My point also was STD's are God's way of preventing homosexuals from having sex.