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If you read history you would know that science is just a theory with no evidence to base its assumtions on in the first place...
If you read history you would know that science is just a theory with no evidence to base its assumtions on in the first place...
My opinion (nothing against you) is that [Joseph] Smith was a delusional liar. Kinda of like an old school David Koresh or Pol Pot.
So why is the universe then. Big bang doesn't cut it either. If you quote thermodynamics you still have to explain where the tiny little particle that exploded into the universe came to be. Please tell me, if not God then what?
So many people have bought into the lie that conservatives are racist, homophobic, ignorant, backwoods, sexist morons. LIES all lies. We are the opposite and the left know it but use these lies for personal gain. You watch to much CNN!
Jesus charged people to spread his word. And they have done just that. And by diying for that believe testifies that something is powerful enough to be willing to give there lives for.
Didnt know we had a whole buncha biologists in this forum. I guess if my facts dont add up to you, let me put it this way: I have no interest in living life under the depressing fact that 'I am a worthless piece of random generation that has no purpose... on this earth then meet my own personal extiction.' How can you live like that? There is a God. And if that takes faith over facts to believe i, so be it
If i was a mother (i'm a male) and i got raped and pregnant, i wouldn't risk my soul by getting an abortion. even though it was forced upon me, i wouldn't kill an innocent young baby whose only there because maybe, GOD wanted him/her there.
[On the Shroud of Turin]
From what I watched on the tv show and what the Bible say, Jesus was raped in it for 3 days and then He rose from the dead.
Well, I would have to agree with you on this one (the person that wrote this message) ok, dude, there has to be CHANGE, but evolution is incorrect. Nothing can NOT CHANGE over time, especially over thousands of years, it's impossible, but the 'Theory' (that's just what it is, a thought passing by someone’s head) that we came from a monkey, is stupid.
Look at what you just said. You belive He was killed 30 AD? Ok, look at this, the BC means before Christ and the AD means after death. So, apparently there had to be a Christ who died for us.
[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]
Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?
All objects whose creation has been observed have been man-made, and require design and intelligence. Even a ball of mud requires design and intelligence. We've never observed something being made without design, intelligence, or method."
"It's pretty much a fact that if you ask anybody if they like grapes with seeds or grapes with no seeds better, they will say grapes with no seeds. The way grapes produce is by using feces as fertilizer to spread their seed that is eaten, but if "early man" only ate seedless fruits as a preference (and he spit out all the seeds), how would fruits reproduce in the first place?"
"Humans wear clothes. Scientists are still trying to decipher at how clothes came to be. But the point is, we all wear clothes, but why? Because it's in our "genetic makeup" to wear clothes when it gets cold out? What about in tropical areas? Why not just move there and go naked? Even though people wear less there, they don't go naked. Man is shameful of his nakedness because he discovered it to be that way (Genesis). Also, if man developed his shamefulness of his nakedness over time, how would the species reproduce "millions of years ago", if a man was afraid to be naked in front of a woman?"
"The Creation was directly observed by Adam and Eve
if you believe that their isn't any hell, you gotta be apart of some cult or something or just blind as a bat!!
more and more it is seeming to be the Evolutionists... [are] just changing the theory again to match what they have found rather than just stopping..... and rather than letting the theory dictate the facts let the facts dictate the theory.
If you learn from your parents that apples are purple, and that you beleive the color red is purple and pruple is red, you beleive that it is true.
However, unless you stay at home your whole, in security of your limitations, you will soon find out taht others thik differently and that they infact realized the truth.
Instead of God Bless America, America Bless God for his great mercy. Thank God for the attack on 9-11 for it woke us up to very serious threat.
Men throw themselves on gernades to save their fellow soldiers in war. This isn't martyrdom either. It is dying for a cause.
[On Noah bringing little baby dinosaurs on the ark to conserve space]
And why not? There's no reason not to bring aboard juveniles instead of outgrown grandfathers. Their life expectancy would be greater anyway.
i didnt read the article cause i dont have time. i have to leave in a bit but i saw the subject and i just want to point out a couple things.
1. scientists are even saying that there was most likely like 99% a worldwide flood.
2. wood (the same kind Noah used) has been found at the top of mount Arat(where the Bible says the ark landed). The bible said that the ark was above every mountain so thats how it got to the top in case your wondering.
3. explain the grand canyon
4. there have been fossils of fishes on the top of mountains. explain how they got there other than this.
5. there are many ancient documents on stone tabs that are almost exactly like the flood story. many point out that only one mans family survived.
Uh , buddy why dont u read about hitler. Ill get the name of the murderer for u tomorrow and then youll be happy. What is a devout evolutionist A DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST! what does devout mean ask urself. DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST=Atheist Atheist= no god no god= no purpose theres some deductive reasoning for ya! And yes some creationist believe in evolution .. . ill argue against that if u want me to. Really why are u trying to deny this? What are u afraid of huh ....God? heheh
Ted Bundy didn't see anything wrong with it [porn] either. Neither do most serial killers.
aetheism is based on Materialism, Rationalism, scientism, and evolutionism. so in either way, you are denying god and giving in to the world of sin... have fun!
And dictionary's are not as reliable as the Bible. uh Duh.
Getting any kind of Biblical advice from N.A.T [an atheist] is like asking Ray Charles to tell you about the mona lisa. It's like asking a deaf person to describe one of Beethoven's symphonies.
the bible should be the way to check the accuracy of archaeology, not the other way around.
but you must realize that anything against evolutioned is being hushed by the scientific field because of fear that creationists will use it for their benefit.
The descendants of Noah's fancier specimens (behemoth, leviathan, velociraptor, et cetera, et al) do not seem to have adapted very well at all! to the brutal climate shift, and thus to have died out fairly thoroughly, although some question remains as to just when...
[On the unconstitutionality of teaching creationism]
Not really. If they used the Genesis account, it covers Christianity, Judaism (Orthodox Judaism, at least), and Islam. If they just do Genesis 1:1 ("In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.") then that covers pretty much every account of it but atheism, which says it isn't a religion anyway and therefore shouldn't complain--- its doctrine is already taught.
Besides the historical inaccuracies of the Book of Morman, which the Bible does not have, the Bible warns against things like the LDS.
Atheism is not only a religion, it is an organized religion.
Yes we have similar genetics to animals..but you know what, our genes match rats more then they match apes..and we have similar genes to that of house plants. You call it ancestry. I had no idea my great, great, great, aunt was a cactus. meanwhile.. I have yet for you to find somthing irrational about creationism.
HEY YA"LL. IVE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY> IM GOING TO FUCKING HEAVEN. I KNOW IT> I SWEAR TO GOD ALMIGHTY BY MY LIFE IM GOING TO HEAVEN. YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNNNNNNNNNOOOOTTT CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE< I SWEAR. I SWEAR> I SWEAR> HOW CAN I GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS>.???????????? I FUCKING KNOW IT. ITS IN MY HEART. I KNNNOOOWWWWWWW IT. NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER> GOT IT>? THAT is HOW sTRONG IT IS> WHEN YOU KNOW, THEN YOU KNOW IT,. WELL GODAMN, WHEN YOU ALL ARE STILL WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD PICK BUDISM OVER CHRISTIANITY ILL BE SITTING NEXT TO JESUS> I SWEAR ONE DAY WHENEVER I DIE, JESUS IIS COMING TO LIFT ME UP IN GLORY AND HES SAVED ME< BY GOD HE SAVED ME> AND IM GOING TO LIVE WITH HIM FOR ETERNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM THHHHHAAAAATT SUUUURE. THERE IS NO QUESTION.
Reasons [to disbelieve] are man made, they stem from fallible minds. While there may be reasons that advocate the absence of God, these reasons merely destroy the faith's credibility, but never its validity.
Ok Leon, I don't get it. A defendant is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. So God exists until He is proven not to exist. Making Sense....... You just contradicted yourself with your own example. Poorly put.
i dont think mohammed was on any drugs at all - he was just decieved by a demon posing as an angel
I don't think someone understands justice or basic Christian doctrine. There are many worse things in life than Harelquin Fetus syndrome." [Warning: click that last link at the risk of your sanity...]
I watched Hell-Raiser 2 last night and well... hell looks BAD. Trust me... you don't want to go there for ETERNITY.
The idea of theories is that they will be either proven or disproven. If they are proven repeateadly then it become a law... IE gravity was a theory once. It has since become a law. It became a law becasue they were able to prove it 100% (i would have questions if tehy didnt ).
being disgusting?
threatning people?
neither of those were my intentions-i was stating the Truth-i was not threatning anyone-if some are uncomfortable with hearing the bitter Truth that without God they are nothing, then so be it-they have heard the Truth-the Truth is, if you don't have God, you're going to hell-and, no, i'm never going to stop telling people that-since people seem to respond better to things that scare them, that's why i brought up the reality of hell, instead of the reality of heaven-if you have a problem with hearing of the Truth, then i suggest you learn to take it, because if you're not saved, you're going to experience it, so if you cringe just by reading the words, then maybe you should start thinking about what it will be like when you have to go through it
again. i'm not trying to threaten people, or be disgusting-and, i'm still not convinced my stating what is true is either of those-i'm telling the Truth-and, if some people can't take the Truth, then oh well
[On Wicca]its on the same page as Buddism, Islam, Satanism, Scientology, Antagonist, Atheism, Mormonism, Jehovahs Witness, New Age, basically all false, but no where near Christianity. is it a real religion- nope- just another cult really oh yeah, what i also forgot-'I'm undecided to the subject but are glad that they have something to believe in.' Well, i can easily say i believe in beating up women or murduring people just as well. Does that make me not right then?
When will you realize that marriage was made for heterosexual men and women for the soul purpose of having kids. Marriage first came about in the Roman Catholic Church so don't even try to argue with me. Marriage is a privelage, not a right. Homosexuals don't deserve that right.
God knits the baby together in the females womb at conception, any birth illnesses or defects come after this. God has never made an inperfect baby. Therefore I believe is no possible situation when abortion is a possible choice.
Atheism is pushed on us Nocheese...This Country is founded on God..You think the Country should be run by Atheism...that is a religion too..you see we all worship a God weather we know it or not
I have proff. A while back on a Moday, I started feeling like I was getting the flu. So, I just said, "No, I'm not getting sick. God heal me of this in Jesus name." And not 10 mins later, the symtoms were gone.
Tell me why I should be [an atheist]? What advantage is there to being one? What does it have to offer?
Why does athiesm suck? There is no evidence. NONE. And if there was nothing, and there was a big bang, then what exactly was it that banged together? Yea.........
[After being asked to show evidence for God's existence]
theres no way to prove it without seeing him but about 30 years ago science heard a radioactive "boom" lost in space. it has been guessed to hav been the boom from the earths creation. scientists hav also discovered a great square mass of matter out in space believed to be heaven.
A life without eternity isn't worth liveing, if ur atheist, go kill yourself. seriously, we're basically here to get ready for eternity, so if we don't believe then there's nothing to get ready for, so basically screw life if ur an atheist.
[Told to another theist who was rationally questioning the doctrine of Hell as illogical and unfair]
I seriously recommend you don't apply science to death. It will lead you to convince yourself of arguements that simply deceive you. Eternal life comes through faith, nothing more... nothing less.
I dont know about you guys, but I don't care how my chicken or meat is killed. Whether its drowned, suffocated, hacked into bits, however, its still going to end up in my stomach and then in a drainage thingy. It really doesn't matter. Whether chickens are stomped on, thrown against a wall, we're still going to eat them. Why does it matter?