[Here I want to address Senator Portman directly.]
To state it bluntly, Senator Portman, Christianity, the Word of God, and the proper view of homosexuality has nothing to do with you or your changing perspective. It has everything to do with the unchanging Word of God. Your attempt to cloak your opinion by distorting the Word of God is not only offensive but blasphemous. I encourage you to open your Bible and read what it says about false teachers and those who add to or take away from the Word of God.
I understand that your son is a homosexual. As a Christian you are called to love him but you cannot condone his sin and encourage others to do the same. Principles are higher than our individual circumstances. Principles do not change because the circumstances in our lives change.
He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it. (Matthew 10:37-39)
Condoning the sin of homosexuality will not help your son to lead a “happy, meaningful” life. He cannot lead such a life in direct opposition to the Word of the Lord. You have taken the easy path and it will only lead to sin and death, error, and worse.
My prayers are with you and your family but Christians must not let your attempt to pervert the Word of God to fit your own personal life go unchallenged.
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The word of God is, " "
What fundie cultists think the word of God is, "In the beginning .... reads all the Bible from beginning to end .... Amen".
In other words, fundie cultists refuse to acknowledge that what they think is the word of God is actually the manic babble of a load of old beardy middle eastern wannabe tent commanders who, lacking any form of decent character and attractive charisma, let alone, probably, physical appeal, resorted to the usual underhand tactics of grizzled numbskulls throughout mankind's existence in order to get virgins for sexual gratification purposes.
Of course, this is assuming that your view of God is correct and not anyone else's, like those who actually believe in a kind, compassionate, and loving God.
It is fun to watch them eat their own, though. Maybe Sen. Portman will finally understand all the religious anti-gay bigotry he was a part of all those years.
" the proper view of homosexuality has nothing to do with you or your changing perspective. It has everything to do with the unchanging Word of God."
The unchanging word of god used to say the white race should never mix with lower races. Sometime in the last 50 years it changed.
I expect it will change again in coming decades, after your generation of bigots has died out.
Why don't you go raise your own kids and stop trying to raise everyone else's.
Christians must not let your attempt to pervert the Word of God to fit your own personal life go unchallenged
Do you believe that the Earth is the center of the universe, that refracted light never existed before the flood, that slavery is okay, that rape victims should marry their rapist, that Pi is exactly 3, and that goats fucking in front of striped rods produce striped offspring regardless of the genes of the parents? If not then I can't let your perversion of the word of God go unchallenged!
"Condoning the sin of homosexuality will not help your son to lead a “happy, meaningful” life. He cannot lead such a life in direct opposition to the Word of the Lord. You have taken the easy path and it will only lead to sin and death, error, and worse."
So, the only ways to help make one's gay son's life "happy and meaningful" is to berate his sexuality or shun him?
Many "happy and meaningful" lives have been led without the "Word of God."
Sin is only possible if there is a deity to be offended. Death comes to us all. Every one commits errors. By worse I assume you mean hell, which, even if it was real, could be entirely discounted if your idea of a God wasn't a huge a$$hole.
Hmm... considering the places where the Bible speaks against homosexuality, I believe you've got two options here, Mr/Ms Kipling.
1. You believe that shrimp, mixed fibers, insects, etc. are also horrifically offensive to God and should not be tolerated
or
2. You believe Paul is God.
I'm going to guess it's none of the above, so why do you believe that God hates homosexuals so much?
"Principles do not change because the circumstances in our lives change."
People's personal principles DO change when circumstances in their lives change. One such circumstance might be being given information one didn't previously have. In this case, Senator Portman's view of homosexuals as evil and immoral has probably changed because he saw that his son was homosexual and yet good and moral. I mean, born-again Christians change their principles when they have their revelatory experiences, right? How is that not changing your principles based on changing circumstances in one's life?
It has everything to do with the unchanging Word of God.
Old Testament. New Testament. Your ball.
As a Christian you are called to love him but you cannot condone his sin and encourage others to do the same. Principles are higher than our individual circumstances. Principles do not change because the circumstances in our lives change.
First, hate the sin, love the sinner is bullshit. Second, when loving someone is a sin (father to son, OR one man loving another, in this case) you need to reevaluate your beliefs. And third, he IS staying true to his principles. Sorry his bigotry lay at a lower place than his family did.
Condoning the sin of homosexuality will not help your son to lead a “happy, meaningful” life.
Your right, clearly he's better off entering into a bogus marriage, barking out a couple kids into a loveless relationship, as he "falters" every few weeks, and finds himself sucking cock in a truckstop bathroom.
My prayers are with you and your family but Christians must not let your attempt to pervert the Word of God to fit your own personal life go unchallenged.
Funny thing here. He's not. He's just moving to work the legal definition of marriage. Not the religious one.
He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.
Well, fuck your god, then.
While I think it is a bit hypocritical of Senator Portman to change his views on gay marriage now, at least he has the balls to stand up for what is right, even if it is an attempt to score political points. But I can also see the Repubs fighting to nominate someone else when he comes up for reelection.
Unfortunately for the idiot kipling here, politicians aren't supposed to run the country based on religious beliefs.
Why arn't you getting angry at people who eat at Red Lobster and wear,well,pretty much anything nowadays that's mixed fabric? Why do you pick and choose shit out of your oh so magical 'holy' book to be dicks about?
This is exactly the kind of retardation that absolutists perpetrate with zeal. Your principals never change? That's great. Now go back to the Dark Ages where your principals belong.
Also, how dare someone let the love of their son get in the way of some absurd myths? What is he, a good father or something? We can't have that. He needs to beat him senseless, make him feel less than human, and demand that he be exactly like him. That's what love is... to a fundie.
"It has everything to do with the unchanging Word of God."
Translation: "I can't handle the World, so I just bury my head in the Bible instead. Life's so much easier when you understand that bats are birds and the Earth is flat. Pity I'll never know what pickled whelks taste like."
@Blarghonius
Principal / principle. That's all.
"the proper view of homosexuality has nothing to do with you or your changing perspective. It has everything to do with the unchanging Word of God."
1. What is the aincient Hebrew word for "homosexual" (as defined when the concept was created in the 18th century).
2. Where does that word appear in the bible?
" Your attempt to cloak your opinion by distorting the Word of God is not only offensive but blasphemous."
Pot, meet Kettle.
Sheesh, how insecure is your god that he demands that he be loved more than everyone else?
Someone's got issues.
God: "HOW DARE YOU LOVE YOUR FAMILY AND OTHER HUMAN BEINGS MORE THAN ME?!"
Okay, for those who don't know, that Matthew quote is the one that even the authors of the Left Behind series, of all people, tacitly admitted sounds completely psychotic 'out of context' (uh huh). When the villains fabricated a scenario with one of the heroes as a psychotic killer, they had him screaming this quote at the top of his lungs, and even author avatar Buck Williams admits to himself how crazy and extreme it actually sounds. (Please don't ask me how I know this.)
That's right...even the people who provided the template for Rapture Ready were visibly freaked out by this passage. You, sir, are officially more insane than Tim LeHaye and Jerry Jenkins, and the horrifying thing is that I thin you're actually proud of it.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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