[Submitter’s note: The “sources” listed for 2 are all links to Kiwifarms.]
2. A number of people who formerly used or at least visited FSTDT have noted that the site used to be more about satirizing unusually high levels of religious extremism but has since devolved into a front for sociopolitical leftism and zealous antitheism.[5][6][7]
13. They appear to have a weak grasp of hyperbole and tend to submit quotes intended as jokes or lighthearted satire. Ironically, RationalWiki, which FSTDT claims to be a proud partner of, has called them out on this by noting the site inevitably suffers from Poe's Law: they cannot always read a quote author's intended tone of voice unless there is a clear indicator of that tone.
34. They support the hypocritical, unscientific "fat acceptance movement", which teaches that there is nothing unhealthy about morbid obesity despite extensive research into the subject conducted by medical professionals worldwide. Anyone who speaks out against this movement is considered an "#ableist " in their eyes.
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Even if RationalWiki did call us out, what Bobby fails to understand is that's a good thing: unlike the rightist hegemony, where failure to put on a unified face is considered treason, things are a bit different on this side of the aisle.
Also, there is a big difference between someone discussing his weight with his doctor and someone having his weight thrown in his face by an individual who is weaponizing it as an insult. My weight, for example, is not your business . Whether I be underweight or overweight is no concern of yours. It's a concern of mine. Bobby and other rightists don't seem to understand the difference between what belongs in the private sphere and what belongs in the public sphere - and this misunderstanding goes well beyond weight. It extends into people's bedrooms and into what kinds of clothing they choose to wear. It extends into whether or not they choose to have children.
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Yeah, well, we laugh at them. IFF they were intentionally joking, they have no complaint, right?
I don’t recall anyone here “embracing” Fat Acceptance, just pointing out that ridiculing and making fun of people for being fat doesn’t do anything to help them lose weight, and indeed, often has the opposite effect. That’s why fat shaming is bad. Also, someone else’s weight—and health in general—really isn’t anybody’s business but that person’s.
Well, I've been here awhile, so I'll take a crack at the selection of points here.
2. One reason for that is because people talk more politics nowadays, political views are getting increasingly polarized so people say stupid things. Another reason is lots of religious quotes are just really samey. Unless you have something outstanding like talking with angels to summon a demon into your bathtub to shank it with swords, lots of stuff is just the same "Gays are evil pedophiles. Atheists (and everyone not in my sect of Christianity) worship Satan. This person is going to hell." Lots of the arguments for religion are old, so stuff is just regurgitated often. Sure, seeing Jimbo Bob give his poorly spelled version of Kalam might be funny, but it's just Kalam again for the n-th time.
13. Poe's Law is something that is hard to spot unless they are being very obvious about it. And the thing is, even if it is someone making a joke, there is honestly likely someone who agrees with it, if not agrees to worse things. It's why usually questionable posts will have "I hope it's a Poe", "This has got to be a Poe" or "If this isn't a Poe, this is why they are wrong." The poster could also be Schrodinger's Asshole, who's comments are both serious or a joke until one version makes them look bad.
34. Really? I might have missed it, but usually stuff is responding to a poster's ad hominem, whey they imply the person is wrong because they are fat, or just saying because the person is fat that they are a bad person. Both aren't good to say.
Oh, don't worry about being thought of as a Poe.
Because as proved - certainly by @rustyloot re. @Niam2020 (even I knew he was referring to the film "Society", thus proof that you're extremely sheltered) - you'll never be one, Bobby.
Your reaction to being called out for your racism here further proves what rustyloot says.
@pyro 's response is priceless.
[Submitter’s note: The “sources” listed for 2 are all links to Kiwifarms.]
…and one of them is TImeToTurn. TimeToTurn .
2. A number of people who formerly used or at least visited FSTDT have noted that the site used to be more about satirizing unusually high levels of religious extremism but has since devolved into a front for sociopolitical leftism and zealous antitheism.[5][6][7]
I have read many old FSTDT quote comment threads. FSTDT has always been a “SJW” site and the criticism of religion has actually become considerably more mature than it once was.
13. They appear to have a weak grasp of hyperbole and tend to submit quotes intended as jokes or lighthearted satire. Ironically, RationalWiki, which FSTDT claims to be a proud partner of, has called them out on this by noting the site inevitably suffers from Poe's Law: they cannot always read a quote author's intended tone of voice unless there is a clear indicator of that tone.
The RationalWiki article section in question
In relation to Poe's Law
In the clamour to get ever more insane speeches and quotes, the site invariably suffers at the hands of Poe's Law. A few quotes do come from what can be considered "legitimate" sources such as various Christian forums so they can be taken as genuine. However there have been examples of very deep cover parodists on some websites throwing out quotes insane enough to be featured. Often, the comments that have been posted for each quote will enlighten readers as to whether some quotes are obvious hoaxes, but ambiguity more often than not remains and the only conclusion is that at least some of these people are, in fact, for real.
So… not exactly as you suggested, isn’t it?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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