So Woke people...who’s higher in the victim hierarchy? Are you gonna keep white knighting for China? Or are gonna side with Africa?
Edit: Read caciquecaribe’s comment below because goddamn, China is upping it’s oppression against foreigners HARD! How can anyone defend China now!? If you still think China did nothing wrong and it’s the US who’s evil...then you’re a communist! You are a fucking communist! I am really curious what the left is gonna do with this info out there? I know SJWs are fucking hypocrites but can we all agree that this is fucked up? How can you defend China after seeing all that and say you”re not be a communist?
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If you still think China did nothing wrong and it’s the US who’s evil...then you’re a communist! You are a fucking communist! I am really curious what the left is gonna do with this info out there? I know SJWs are fucking hypocrites but can we all agree that this is fucked up? How can you defend China after seeing all that and say you”re not be a communist? Well... as you lot are the sort who worship Putain - as that... thing is one of your so-called 'Strong Men' - and think it can do nothing wrong...:
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...you tell me.
Especially when the likes of you tell us via your computers with Chinese components within such. So I'd be extremely careful about your throwing out the 'Hypocrite' accusations if I were you.
My computer:
Dell M4500: Made in Japan.
Yours...?!
As an actual communist, I do not feel any need to defend China.
To be a communist, one needs to believe that the workers must control the means of production. And that all people are basically equal. That the basic necessities of life must NOT be privately owned, or sold as commodities. That education, healthcare, and justice, must be available to all. Not just to the rich. And that limits must be placed on how much power or wealth any one person can have.
That's odd, I'm under the impression that actual leftists are *not* defending China. In fact, I'm quite certain they hate China even more than right wingers.
Unless by "defending China" this guy means "saying that we should not attack random Asians for bringing the virus here".
I can think BOTH China AND the US of A are bad. The Orange Clown has praised Xi, just as he’s praised Putin, Erdoğan and Kim Jong-un, almost as if he looks up to dictators…
What info? That now, in a pandemic, a lot of people find it a good thing to HELP EACH OTHER, to WORK TOGETHER, and the thought of a Big Government isn’t as scary as it usually is for rightists, that governmental aid programs are not for “lazy people who refuse to work”, but mostly for people who very much want to work but aren’t allowed to.
I don’t defend China! I think they should have attacked the virus instead of the people warning about the virus. If they had, it might not have become a pandemic at all, and a lot of the dead people around the world would still be alive.
How can YOU say you”re not be a communist ? It doesn’t make any sense. What’s the inch-mark doing in there, for example?
Blaming the Chinese for the virus existing is stupid, they occur naturally and can spread anywhere. If that’s what you want people to hate on China for then you’re an idiot. China apparently trying to shift the blame over to Africa in exactly the same way without any kind of sense is exactly as stupid for exactly the same reasons. I don’t know who exactly it is you think is defending a Chinese deflection of that kind while condemning the USA except maybe those pushing sympathy towards totalitarian states hoping the US moves even further towards a fascist dictatorship or insane racists who want an excuse to bomb Africa and if you think Stormfronters and the KKK are “SJWs” you’ve taken one too many blows to the head. Is it China’s deflection you think we should hate on China for? That’s easy enough to condemn and doesn’t require some kind of racial victimhood totem pole as you think judging any kind of action requires rather than judging the action itself and it certainly does not mean we have to take a side and declare an entire country or as your language not so subtly implies an ethnic group our enemy just to condemn a shitty political move.
One can commend the implementation of social distancing in China which I imagine you take as “defending” the Chinese while condemning the excuse being taken to single out minority populations or the heavy-handedness of the most extreme quarantine actions because those are two different things. Again, judging an action on it’s individual merits rather than trying to create a collective group identity to simply declare good or evil. Do you want people to stop mentioning the positive progress and imitable actions used to stop the spread of COVID-19 and purely hate on China with the excuse that for whatever effective actions they are taking or whatever they pointedly are not responsible for (such as a virus existing) they also did something that supposedly offends your sensibilities and all fact-checking must stop if it paints them in a positive light? That’s an argument that backfires the minute you demand criticism of the US ends because you think you can see a positive in the current shitstorm that you insist trumps the negatives. You also lose a practical evaluation of how effective those measures are if you refuse to observe them objectively because anything “defending” the Chinese is deemed unacceptable.
Shaming China for being slow on the draw to admit there was a problem let alone contain it and trying to downplay the virus before it escaped their borders can be valid but considering the current situation in the US and their slow response despite advance warning the Chinese never had and ongoing self-sabotage of containment efforts with a clear prioritization of punishing unflattering portrayals of the response over actually solving the issues that get brought up means you’re firing off mortars in a glass house. Best leave that last criticism to people with a leg to stand on, because even if China was slow to act they’re acting now and that’s something the Trump administration can only say if they’re lying. And they are. And they can’t go five minutes without alternating between telling the states it’s every man for himself and demanding unconditional praise for bold leadership despite aforementioned refusal to take the lead. (Just horrifically abuse powers in ways they were never meant to be used to seize goods and provoke bidding wars for crucial goods bankrupting the states buying back medical and protective equipment benefiting only private sellers while preventing that gear from actually being used.)
There is also the fundamental and very relevant distinction between criticism of a foreign power and criticism of the government that is ostensibly in your service and that your voice is meant to affect through your votes and elected representatives. Basically it’s the difference between complaining about a problem directly impacting you with the potential of those complaints to contribute to constructive solutions or pressure to act and just bitching pointlessly at people you already don’t like. You prefer to bitch over fixing, I see.
Who the hell is defending China (aside from paid shillls)? Seriously, EVERYONE with even the slightest awareness has known for decades that China is the greatest force of evil we have in the world currently. It's just that politicians and business are too cowardly to not appease China because of its enormous economic power.
Dude, progressives have been condemning the Chinese government for DECADES. Since before you were born, in fact. The only people who I’ve ever seen defending the Chinese government are paid Chinese commenters (or bots), and the handful of ultra-fringe hardcore communists that believe any kind of government that is even remotely communist - even/especially when it’s authoritarian - is something to be praised unconditionally. But those are weird outliers that you have to search REALLY hard for, so I’m pretty sure you’re just building strawmen.
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