["Is Trans-Identification a Social Contagion?"]
Of course it is. Find a case of “trans” before 2010.
When social media got their start.
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OMG really??? LOL, what? This person literally doesn’t think transgender people existed before 2010???
I can think of two trans people (who transitioned definitely before 2010) off the top of my head just from my knowledge of musicians…Wendy Carlos, a pioneer of synthesizers, and Dee Palmer, who was a member of Jethro Tull, among a lot of other things.
Also, social media existed before 2010 as well…
Christine Jorgensen, Dante “Tex” Gill, Lilly Elbe, Billy Tipton, Dr. Alan L. Heart, shall I go on?
@Sasha #240513
Literally their first attack on LGBT, with the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft being the first target in that campaign, with at the time the biggest library of medical literature concerning transgendered people, and their treatment.
Bearing in mind that historical standards of gender are very different from gender today and applying “trans” as a label is difficult, may I submit a fairly old one (1300s), Kalonymous ben Kalonymous.[1]https://www.transtorah.org/PDFs/On-Becoming-A-Woman.pdf
Caroline Cossey, A Bond girl in For Your Eyes Only, outed as a transgendered woman by the media in the early 1980s. First transgendered woman in Playboy, 1991.
@Anon-e-moose #240502
Unless you’re referring to some minor character from later in that series (Konatsu?), Ranma himself is an involuntary sex-shifter, but still almost exclusively identifies as male regardless of current physical form, so not a great example of being either transgender or genderfluid. A much better example is the earlier Stop!! Hibari-kun from 1981. The main character, Hibari, is AMAB, but identifies as and lives as a girl. I mean, it’s a comedy and there’s some problematic Japanese comedy tropes, but she’s not treated like some weird pervert or anything like that. Granted, that one’s obscure in the West outside the trans community, but it was popular enough in Japan to get an anime in 1983.
Of course it is. Find a case of “trans” before 2010.
They were literally doing Very Special Episodes on TV in the 90’s , you uncultured swine.
Also, I have family members who transitioned before 2010, but I’d rather not dox them.
@pyro #240540 1977 .
Well, the examples predating the 1990s were pretty sparse, so they were certainly missable, but if you were an adult regularly watching TV in the US during the mid-1990s to early 2000s, they were just common enough that it would be surprising if you never saw anything. Also there were at least a handful appearances of trans people being interviewed about their experiences on daytime talk shows during that period. But that really depends on the age of the OP and their TV-watching habits, since (again in the US, not sure about elsewhere) such episodes became less common after the early 2000s, and trans people weren’t fully normalized in the media until Orange is the New Black in 2013.
Oh really?! In addition to all the trans people in history already mentioned, maybe you should read the Female Husband, written by Henry Fielding in 1749. Nothing including transgenders is new under the sun.
@Zinnia #240547
Oooh! I was watching TV in 1977. Including the very short lived SciFi parody, Quark, had the character Gene/Jean (Tim Thomerson) the "transmute", a humanoid being with a complete set of both male and female chromosomes.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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