But there are some of us that believe in all powerful God that created this world and He/She/It is beyond logic.
A omnipotent God doesn't need to go by the laws of logic, because nothing is beyond God.
So that's why logic doesn't play a part in Christianity.
I already know what kind of posts are coming next, so I won't be looking at them.
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It's sad, I would like to ask you, if God doesn't convey the laws of logic, why did he create it for us to work, to begin with?, why in everything except religion(which touches eventually everything)is permitted to use and not there?
You know, if you say something, and people are polite enough to read it, you should at least read what they've got to say.
So that's why logic doesn't play a part in Christianity.
No. God is logical enough. It's fanatic fundamentalist Christians who aren't logical. If you believe that God did something that doesn't conform to the reality in front of your face, you can do one of two things: assume your beliefs are wrong or assume that God did something that doesn't make sense. Fundies always go for the second option: they bend God to fit the Bible instead of the other way around.
"Because I don't conform to logic, and my mythology book says I was created in my god's image, he must not conform to logic either! Stop talking, I win."
-pb
@Old Viking: That's why I let Rild's comment stand without expanding on it. He/She did such a good job of summarizing Christianity that there was nothing more that I could add to it, except perhaps that I'd trust logic over faith, but, whatever.
Philosophically, Rild is correct, an omnipotent god is not limited by logic. Heck, I'm an atheist and even I'll buy that!
The problem is, such a being then could be neither proved nor disproved logically.
It wouldn't even matter if science irrefutably proven that the existence of an omnipotent god was a hard and fast requirement for the universe, since it is only logically that this would mean that the obvious fact there is a universe proves the existence of said god. Unconstrained by logic, an omnipotent being does not actually have to exist in order to do anything.
So if he is omnipotent, God could have created the universe and still not exist.
As far as arguments go, "God is beyond logic" isn't so much shooting yourself in the foot as cutting yourself off at the knees!
@David B.: That begs the question of why such a god would hide its existence. In the case of the Christian God, there's no proof, no evidence, and God would know of this, since he's omniscient, so why would he punish unbelievers? There's no proof, even though the Bible says that his existence is "self-evident".
So that's why logic doesn't play a part in Christianity.
I was going to call "Nutshell" but Adrian beat me to it. Instead I'll go for an honesty award for recognising that there's no logic in christianity.
Well, he is sort of right, but he's clearly a teenager (given the Narutoforums origin) who's taken a look through wikipedia's Omnipotence article, which sort of lists this as a possible solution to the age old paradox "Can an omnipotent god create a boulder he cannot lift" since there is no paradox here if the omnipotent god also goes above the laws of logic.
However, the ensuing conclusion that logic plays no part in Christianity is beyond retarded and the final comment makes it clear that this person has no idea what he's talking about.
Confused?
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