Yeah, they [scientists] think theyre so smart. Like they've got the whole world figured out. Sometimes I think the world would be better off if we ignored science altogether. Obviously they dont know what theyre talking about if they dont think God ever existed.
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Actually, we would be better if we ignored science altogether, just think of how glorious life would be! No more pesky vaccinations, we could rid of the sewer system by not having indoor plumbing, no plastic products, no books, transportation by crude horse-drawn wagons, an incredibly limited food supply, no means of communication between the continents....
I could go on and on about this utopia, but it's my bedtime.
Well, first off you can give up your internet connection... then your car, electricity, telephone, aspirin, television, air conditioning, medical treatment, packaged food, toothpaste, anything made of plastic, etc., etc., etc.
Then get off the fucking computer. Never visit a doctor, use electricity, or anything in that area.
Wait, I forgot you're an IFB and not Amish. In other words; you don't put your money where you're mouth is.
Yeah obviously...
Wait what? Sure science takes a generally dim view upon imaginary friends, but apparently yours gets special pleading.
Being as he doesn't exist now, and there's no record of his demise, we can in all likelyhood assume he never existed right? Especially considering how ludicrous the initial claims were.
'I reject your reality & substitute my own' has never been so apt.
Q: Do scientists 'Think' they are smart?
A: No. Scientific research requires years of schooling and training. You HAVE to be smart. Next.
Q: Would it be better if the world ignored science altogether?
A: Science is responsible for nearly every modern-day invention, including but certainly not limited to, modern medicine, technology, water-quality, water-treatment, vehicles of every sort, air-conditioning, CAT-Scans, movies, amusement parks, ATV’s, television, the internet, communication, rescue response, fire-fighting abilities, law-enforcement abilities, armed forces abilities, etc. etc. forever. If you don’t like it, go live in a cave. The answer is a resounding NO unless you choose to be a penniless hermit.
Q: Does the disbelief in an admittedly unproved deity equate to stupidity?
A: Absolutely the opposite.
*honk!
Ester, the short bus is here. Put on your helmet and take your pudding packs. *pats head*
Thus speaks a child who has grown up with every advantage 21th century science has given her. She wants to return to the "dark ages" that she never had to experience because of that science she hates. It's like "Randy's girls" advocating a return to "chattel" status after growing up in a society of equal rights created by feminism. It both cases you wish for a time machine to let them have their wish. "Beware of what you wish for, you might get it"!
For what its worth, there's two teens 4 Christ sites: teens4christ.org and teens-4-christ.org
The one with the hyphens is Bro. Randy's little cult. The one without the hyphens has a modicum of sanity -- it has posters who openly say the read and liked Harry Potter, for instance.
@Traitor1
No more pesky vaccinations, we could rid of the sewer system by not having indoor plumbing, no plastic products, no books, transportation by crude horse-drawn wagons, an incredibly limited food supply, no means of communication between the continents....
You'd have no phone, no lights, no motor cars, not a single luxury. You'd live like Robinson Crusoe, as primitive as can be...
"If you don’t like it, go live in a cave."
I beg to differ! As a member of a caving club, it so happens that I actually do live in caves, sometimes. And in order to do that, I carry a plastic helmet, a carbide lamp, a plastic skiing overall with a Goretex lining, rubber boots, ropes, circa 2 kg of metal gear, etc., etc.
Oh, and another thing - cave ecology is too fragile to cope with fundies, IMO. Which means that the remnants will pollute the aforementioned cave for quite a long time...
Wow! I feel like I was just beaten with a baseball bat of stupidity.
1 Scientists don't act like they have the whole world figured out, that would be you fundies.
2 Prove your claim, go live without science or any products of science for a month and get back to us on the wisdom of ignoring it.
3 There is no evidence for God, get over it.
@ Redhunter: LMFAO Omg, that was hilarious! Pudding packs.... ^^
No, but seriously, pudding packs and short buses aside, if we'd ignored science altogether, we'd still be grunting and swinging clubs. It's funny, even cavemen tried to better themselves. (what does that say about you?) I mean, they learned how to cook meat, right? That may not sound very scientific, but I'm sure that was a great breakthrough for them. Hell, we'd never know the joys of cooked meat if our ancestors ignored science altogther. Think about THAT the next time you want a nice juicy steak.
Dilvish the Damned
"If you don’t like it, go live in a cave."
I beg to differ! As a member of a caving club, it so happens that I actually do live in caves, sometimes. And in order to do that, I carry a plastic helmet, a carbide lamp, a plastic skiing overall with a Goretex lining, rubber boots, ropes, circa 2 kg of metal gear, etc., etc.
Were you really thrown by the statement or were you just bragging about your cave experiences?
As the equipment you are talking about was developed through science, they obviously wouldn't apply. No, she'd have to do it like the bears do, and crawl in a hole.
If you think that scientists think they have it all figured out, then you haven't been reading anything scientific. Mystery is what drives us on, the quest to obtain hard-earned truths rather than settling for the best guesses of our foreparents.
"Like they've got the whole world figured out. Sometimes I think the world would be better off if we ignored science altogether. "
The whole world would be better off if you ignored the results of science, like antibiotics and the computer you posted this with.
Funny thing is, esther, science is the very reason you're not dead of plague, tuberculosis, tetanus, or the flu by now.
Redhunter, the reason I mentioned all the gear wasn't to brag, merely to show that without equipment, based on scientific research in one field of science or another, you couldn't survive in a cave. Or, for that matter, "with the bears".
And to answer the question - by all means, as a biologist, I would side I was a little more than "thrown".
I'll try using a "sarcasm tag" next...
Obviously they don't know what they're talking about if they don't think God ever existed.
Lots of scientists believe in God. Lots of atheists aren't scientists. What does one have to do with the other?
I agree that probably few scientists believe in talking snakes and magic trees, but plenty of people believe in God without believing those things.
You wake up in a mechanically made bed in your mechanically made clothes.
You eat processed sugar for breakfast.
You ride to school in a mechanically-driven school bus, with laws of combustion and everything.
You go to school, built by architects.
You-
There's no point in going on.
you want to ingore science? Better get off your computer and get rid of your refridgerator, stove, sink, lights, heating, air conditioner, medicines, and synthetic fabrics then.
If there was a God, he would have punished us disbelievers and made us believe in him.
*RANTS ABOUT THE STUPIDITY OF RELIGION*
Yes, we should ignore science. Like, you know, that your hands can be used to manipulate objects, and that if you don't breathe, you turn purple.
Yeah.
And you obviously don't know what you're talking about if you're suggesting we throw away all research for deadly diseases and facts of life for something that has no proof of existance at all. Lemme ask this, if God can get rid of disease, why doesn't he? Is it because he doesn't exist or is he just an asshole that wants us to depend on ourselves and not him? If you can bring proof of his existance other than a book that could have been written by some drunk hobo in the early years, then i'll take back what i've said. Fair, yes? Good day to you.
Firstly...and you might wanna sit down for this...it's gonna be a shock...not all scientists are atheists. And some of them still believe in evolution!
Secondly...when we listened to religion over science...you probably would have been considered an old lady.
hmm..okay..you first. Please give up these items first: Computer, Refridgerator, Automobiles, canned food, cell phones, electricity, all printed books, eye glasses, medicines, electric stove, modern meat and vegetables, AC/Heat...well, thats good enough for now..good thing you really do want to ignore science, and we would be better off..you show us how better off you will be after a month.
Yeah, let's ignore science altogether. So hand over your cell phone, that was developed by science you know. No iPhone for you. And your car, hope you enjoy walking...And you want some water? Here's some that might have cow piss in it, as science was what developed the filtration system to purify it. No clean water for you...
And when you get sick from the new super-virus, since we've been ignoring science altogether, we won't have any medicine to help you. Hope you enjoy dying a slow, painful death. Good luck trying to pray the infection away...
And the fucking moron types this crap on a computer...
Confused?
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