The biblical ignorance here is astounding. I was once there myself but not any more. The Bible is a difficult study no doubt and I am still a babe learning with a fantastic biblical scholar.
I wish I was further along so I could contribute here, however, it would fall on deaf ears anyway!
Did you know your body is full of phosphorus which the Bible refers too. It is mainly in your skeletal system and you know what. It must be there for you to exist! Oddly, when the physical body dies, although we still see the mass of flesh...the phosphorus dissappears!! So where does it go!
Did you know you glow? Yes, this phophorus glows yet you cannot see it with the naked eye!
Check it out! You glow but you can't see it! Why?
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-The Bible never mentions phosphorous. I'd like to see where you get that idea - chapter and verse, if you please.
-If we 'glowed,' we would see it. Glowing is the emission of visible light.
-Phosphorous does not glow without a chemical reaction.
-The phosphorous in our bodies does not 'dissappear'[sic], it - like most of the minerals in our body - gradually dissipates due to the process of decay. It ends up in the surrounding burial area, along with all the proteins, water, and nitrogen in our systems.
You are grossly misinformed, I'm afraid.
As someone who knows biology, you are full of shit. Phosphorus is used in the cells as part of a molecule called atp. go ahead look it up. and it's still there after you die.
P.S. i suspect phosphorus is used elsewhere as well, but to say what this twit is...
"The biblical ignorance here is astounding..........". They're still laughing with your Phosphorus theory. Moreover, what do you consider Biblical scholar knowledge?, to quote randomly verses in Elisabethan English?
I wish I was further along so I could contribute here
Good idea. Phosphorus wasn't discovered or named until the 1600's, so it couldn't be in the Bible unless it was used to mean something else (it means "light-bearer" in Greek). Eosphoros ("dawn-bearer"), a related word, appears in the Septuagint. It was translated to "Lucifer" in Latin.
The hard part of bone is mainly a mineral called apatite, which is a compound of calcium and phosphorus. Bone meal is used as a plant fertilizer for its phosphorus content, so it obviously stays in bones when you die. Phosphorus only glows in its pure form, which doesn't occur in nature. Apatite doesn't glow.
The stupid, it burns ... almost as much as the phosphorus would if she held the actual element in her hands instead of stable compounds ...
We tried, believe me, we tried ... unfortunately she was another hit and run fundie-ette who bailed out when people with real knowledge started addressing her deficiences.
I think you will find more Bible knowledge at most anti-fundie sites than in the average fundie church. We read the whole Bible, and do not just cherrypick the Old Testament and Paul. But more to the point, if we glow, but we can't see it, how the heck do we check it out?
There is no mention of "phophorus" or phosphorus in the Bible.
The human body contains many different minerals. Phosphorus is one of them. So what?
The phosphorus doesn't disappear when one dies.
You need to find a more fantastic "Bible scholar."
Wow, where do you guys&gals keep digging up those quotes? All the quotes I read today seem to be fulfilling Poes Law, yet the concentration of them make it likely some of them are serious. Wow ... just wow! I would like to have a conversation with this clown in RL. Although I think it is impossible to get past a skull that thick.
Conservation of matter.
Kill yourself now.
"The biblical ignorance here is astounding."
And the scientific ignorance. I can only assume that this first line refers to your own posting.
Just out of curiosity, if I can't see something that must be seen to be checked out, can you please describe the methodology by which I am to observe it?
P.S. "I was once there myself but not any more."
There are those who would absolutely agree that you're not all there.
Phosphorus is indeed in the skeletal system, as hydroxyapatite. Scientific statement correct.
This mineral will also disappear after death, but of everything within the body, it will take the longest to decompose. By then, you will be well and truly fossilized. Science here = incorrect.
And phosphate doesn't 'glow' any more than anything else in your body does. And the reason we can't see any electromagnetic radiation that it does emit is because God didn't give us photoreceptors that can pick it up.
Hey, I think I figured out Sad Sack Sadie's problem (well, one of them).
She's probably a member of Women's Aglow (now Aglow International) - an organization of fundy women founded to combat the "evils" of feminism. Now, obviously, any woman who'd join such a thing can't be too intelligent. Sadie, however, is on the low-end of the IQ scale even for fundies so, naturally, she took the name much too literally.
The alternative theory is, of course, that Sadie thinks "phosphorus" is just a polite way to say "shit," the substance that she is actually full of.
Woah, woah, woah. Give me chapter and verse where the word "phosphorus" shows up. And no, not some obscure metaphor or wacky translation. The actual word.
And phosphorus doesn't just dissapear when you die. It might be taken in by bacteria, but it can't vanish. Cite me a scientific study that proves your statement.
"The Bible is a difficult study no doubt"
My dear sadie. There isn't anything difficult to understand about the bible. It's a collection of (plagiarised) mythologies, that silly little plebs, like yourself, think is the literal truth...nuff said.
I drink like 3 liters of cola everyday. My blood is 6M concentrated phosphoric acid as a result. According to the Bible, this means that I "invisible glow" so much that it's actually a visible glow! And when I die, all that concentrated phosphate will disappear! That's the mass of my soul exiting into the afterlife. This means I have a bigger or "more" soul than the rest of you! Praise da Lawd!
I suspect that a) this guy doesn't know the difference between phosphors (IIRC a good number of which are actually lanthanide compounds with no phosphorus in them) and phosphorus and b) that only white phosphorus glows, and that primarily because it's obnoxiously reactive. I mean, it's used as a weapon, for crying out loud, and a nasty one at that.
Seriously -- the stuff will rot your bones if it doesn't fry you with a chemical burn first...
PhantasyElements, with respect to this:
"Woah, woah, woah. Give me chapter and verse where the word "phosphorus" shows up. And no, not some obscure metaphor or wacky translation. The actual word."
If you check the link to the forum thread, she actually had the hubris to lecture me as though I was a three year old in plastic pants, and told me to "go and do my homework" when I mentioned that I'd never seen the word "phosphorus" in the Bible. So, just to shut her up, I checked out no less than nineteen different translations. Guess what I found? NO occurrence of the word "phosphorus".
Guess no one taught her basic science. She was probably homeschooled by fundie parents with the scientific literacy of an amoeba.
Oh, by the way, anyone who wants to check out the grisly effects of being in contact with elemental white phosphorus without protective clothing, just do a google search on "phossy jaw", a nice little industrial disease that killed off workers in the match industry in the 19th century. If you worked in the dipping rooms, your life expectancy was 18 months. Guess no one bothered to teach Sadie some basic history either.
This is almost as good as "the world is flat in God's eyes, but nobody can tell 'cuz we're all evil and evil makes things look round".
If every possible observation, test, and result leads to a "wrong" answer, how wrong can that answer be? You can certainly use it to predict things with accuracy.
Presumably sadie555 is implying that this magical, glowing stuff that disappears from the body upon death is - ta-daaaaaaaaa! - the soul. Otherwise, what's the actual point of the post?
But if that's true, that means the soul is made of phosphorus, and phosphorus is matter, and the soul isn't supposed to be made of matter at all, and so, well, you're talking utter tits.
"Udder tits?" Isn't that redundant, Prim? :P I kid.
Anyway... Well, let's see, where to begin.
Y'know, the body has sodium in it too. And the body has water in it. Did you know that when you put sodium in water it causes a violent chemical reaction?
Wouldn't it be neat if everyone who didn't understand that pure chemicals and chemical compounds don't act the same way had their way, but just for them?
Why, then your bones would glow and your entire body would explode! :D I would pay for footage of that. DEATH BY CHEMICAL IDIOCY!
Dude. Duu-ude. Learn some basic chemistry or something? Only white phosphorus (P4) actually glows, and it is also hella toxic and pyrophoric (self-igniting). If there was any in you, you wouldn't glow, you would BURN, MUTHAFUCKA, BUUUUUURN! And no, we don't need no water.
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