[Evolution vs. Intelligent Design: Which has the better argument?]
put it this way, ask anyone who believes in evolution why is it that they cannot mention who were the first people that came from evolution and felt naked and why is it that we wear clothes and not live and walk around like the animals in bare skin.
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@Fek'lhr
Indeed Fek'lhr, especially since we posted at the same time, most likely. But the sad thing is, a great mind isn't even needed to realize the obvious answer here, yet this fundie couldn’t figure it out.
Common sense must be at an all time low these days, huh?
In the Savanna region of Africa where the hominids first appeared it was warm enough so no clothing was necessary (there is a reason why most tribes in Africa during the centuries never developed a tradition of wearing much clothing).
@Bass X0
I think the question is why humans decided that being naked in puplic was indecent if it didn't start with Adam and Eve.
It is easy to refute this question as irrelevant, as not all humans think that it is indecent to be naked in public.
"why is it that they cannot mention who were the first people that came from evolution and felt naked and why is it that we wear clothes and not live and walk around like the animals in bare "
Because there is
put it this way, ask anyone who believes in evolution why is it that they cannot mention who were the first people that came from evolution
Evolution doesn't work that way! [/Morbo]
and felt naked and why is it that we wear clothes and not live and walk around like the animals in bare skin.
Currently? Because I'd be freezing my dick off at least 4 months/year without clothes, and I don't live in a particularly cold country. Originally? I guess keeping warm was one reason, and protecting sensitive dangly bits from thorns and other hazards another.
Go walk around naked in Alaska in winter, then come back and and see if you can ask that question without feeling like an idiot.
Also, clothes were invented about 70,000 years ago. That's when head lice and body lice evolved from a common ancestor.
It can't be answered because generally it is not believed that there were so called first people.
You cannot put your mythical stories of the bible into a scientific theory and make it work. Stop trying.
*Because in cold countries your willy would look like a wee prawn. And you'd not attract many mates like that. So the species would die out.*
This may be one of the greatest thing I have ever read on this site.
I don't actually know why so many people wear clothes besides tradition, but it probably happened during the Ice Age or when people left Africa as you definitely need to wear clothes 24/7 just to survive anywhere more north or south than Africa.
</I can't remember the history of mankind right now, so I kinda made something up>
"ask anyone who believes in evolution why is it that they cannot mention who were the first people that came from evolution and felt naked..."
What. An. Idiot.
The first people ... who felt naked? How on Earth could we possibly know such a thing? Apart from the whole issue of how you differentiate the first humans from precursor species (i.e., you can't, since it's a gradual progress with no clear line of demarcation between one generation and the next), does he think that we developed written language and extensive documented records of our social practices before we even figured out how to skin animals to clothe ourselves?!? What! An! Idiot!
"Who"? Of course we can't answer "who were the first to wear clothes?" question; this was prehistory, before written history (I'm being purposefully redundant, if you can't tell), so there are no written logs and certainly no names. However, when can give you a rough "when". This is because when human ancestors first began using furs for clothing many of the fleas migrated from the head hair to the fur clothing hairs due to the opening of space. Since clinging to a vertical wall requires different flea legs, they evolved, and because we know the rate of mutation we can determine how long this process took. I can't recall the estimated time, unfortunately.
A lot of "savages" from more amenable climes didn't clothe themselves...at least not until asshole missionaries forced them to. I read about a tribe in which they would only cover their dangly bits when they had an STD or menstruating. When the missionaries came and told them to cover up they were mortified. Long story short, clothing protects us from the cold and from the sun.
I'm going with the first people who felt cold. There are people who walked around naked up until they were found by good wholesome white folk.
Then again, maybe it was people who hunted and needed protection against brambles and such, your right, we don't know. And really, who the hell cares?
Oh, and I have no problem with being naked. The neighbours on the other hand tend to complain.
Umm...I wear clothes because I either wish to remain warm in cold weather or I wish to protect the "delicate" parts of my body from sunburn.
...ask anyone who believes in evolution why is it that they cannot mention who were the first people that came from evolution...
If by "people" you mean the first "True Humans" then let me set your mind at ease. We do have a name for the first (and subsequent) ones to appear: Homo Sapiens . Maybe you've heard of them.
Because clothes are such a mystery.
Never understood this as many cultures feel no shame naked and some people from every culture also don't mind being publicly naked. Kinda blows the Shame game and put it back to protection, from sand, wind, cold, and the sun. Shoes a mystery to ya?
Fundies trying to disprove evolution is mostly funny, kind of sad, and rarely intelligent. However, this one is even worse off because of some grammatical problems. Learn to speak clearly, and then come back and argue.
All evolutionists know that the first true humans were Bob and Edna. Before then came Ughh and Hmmm but theres some question about them.
I live in the Northern midle of the USA. During winter if I went outside naked I would turn blue. Blue is sooo not my color so I wear nice earthtones and stay warm.
Also if I appear naked with women around I cant get anything done because of the pawing and drooling and such ;-) so I wear clothes to hide my manliness so the womens not be overcome with teh lust.
"put it this way, ask anyone who believes in evolution why is it that they cannot mention who were the first people that came from evolution and felt naked and why is it that we wear clothes and not live and walk around like the animals in bare skin."
Put it this way: you don't want to see the reason why I need to wear clothes. And no, not for purely legal reasons ('Indecent Exposure' etc), nor for the obvious reason. [/perv]
Two words: Robin Williams.
And I guess, re 'argument', you're in that river in Egypt over Kitzmiller vs. Dover three years previously. How - via the decision of a Conservative Christian judge - the final nail was hammered into the coffin of the whole 'Intelligent Design' (Religion) vs. Evolution (Atheism) debate. Guess which was the hammer-wielding funeral director, and which was the rotting, pustulent corpse in said coffin?
Try this gcococ1, try climbing trees, running through fields of waist tall grass and gathering produce from bushes multiple times every day with nothing covering your genitals.
Sound like fun? No? Well, you're in luck, our ancient ancestors invented something to help you out.
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