All was asked to the LGBT+ was to leave children out of it: no grooming and no transition before adulthood. Is that simple and somehow you've failed this basic civilizational point.
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And that’s the thing; children aren’t being groomed, you liar. Because just teaching children that any humans outside of cisgendered heterosexuals exist is NOT the same as grooming them. It’s that simple and somehow you've failed this basic comprehensional point.
And you know what? I’m actually not even entirely sure anymore if I am “truly” heterosexual myself; lately I’ve been wondering more and more if I may not have some form of asexuality. Sure, I may have a libido targeted towards female anatomy, but my aversion to having coitus itself unless it’s someone I’m emotionally intimate with makes me wonder…
My point being that if it wasn’t for the huge stigma on LGBTQ+ people that our society has I may have figured those issues out a LOT sooner.
EDIT: Also just apologies to anyone if I overshared a bit. I still have trouble differentiating between sharing and oversharing.
“All was asked to the LGBT+ was to leave children out of it:”
Asked? You guys lie and demonize and demand that children be uneducated about a fact of life and pretend that’s a compromise.
Fuck all the way off.
“no grooming”
Which apparently includes offering a dictionary definition of an observed medical condition and maybe suggesting some classmates not be burned at the stake.
“and no transition before adulthood.”
This is the party that resists limiting marriage to actual adulthood. That forces minor rape victims to get an abortion, rather go through the trauma of bring the rape baby to term. But god forbid someone in the wrong body begin dealing with that.
“Is that simple and somehow you've failed this basic civilizational point.”
You’re not civilization. Ignoring your demands isn’t a failure.
I was listening to an episode of the Best of the Left podcast recently. It was one focused on trans issues and one person made an excellent point. Parents of trans children who are bigoted or even just don’t understand LGBT stuff sometimes say “well my child started claiming they are trans after hanging out with a trans friend. Is this kid making my kid trans?” And then the person said that the parents are asking the wrong question: they should be asking “is my child hanging out with this trans child because they are also trans?”
I fucking hate all this “LGBT people existing near my child will instantly make my child gay and they’ll die horribly and our whole family will all end up in hell if we don’t beat the gay out of them and create laws that make it so any LGBT person being in 100 mile radius of a child, intentionally or not, will go to prison for life”. I mean, states like Texas are trying to make it so trans people can’t go within a 1000 feet of a school. People are trying to take us back to the time when all of us were seen as unnatural monsters who prey on unwitting children while ignoring the societal structures that make it easy and even acceptable in some cases for hetero adults to prey on children. I’m so frustrated and scared and tired and I really just want this whole year to go away and for me and the Ratso to be immediately transported… somewhere not stressful like this.
@Malingspann #194501
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That time, and even into the 2000s.
Also, I love how they never mention that girls are equally vulnerable - but it’s because older men being into young girls is so normalized (hi Matt Walsh!) and it shouldn’t be.
@Timjer , @shy :
I guess that would make me demisexual as well, though I would not identify as such, as it does not seem significant or useful information to who I am to me. But yes, I certainly have very strong overwhelmingly gynophilic desire, but that is very much interwoven into longing for the love of my life, with whom to start a family and to grow old with, to the bitter end - not out of naive heteronormativity, but very much out of introspection and cathartic acceptance of true desires that I tried to push away not believing they could ever become true, whereas casual sex is deeply offputting and alien to me.
I would like to point out that this, at least as I understand it, a completely different component/axisn of sexuality to the homo-hetero spectrum. Which would fit with an observation I made… it might have been a few years since, actually… that, even though we may be both heteroseuxal men, I have no common ground with people like Roosh (…yes, this was back before he fully rebranded to Chrirstian fundamnetalist - not that I have any more common ground with him now! Feeling old, having turned thirty yesterday…) or “FamilyValues™” Republicans…
Confused?
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