The main problem you have with understanding creationism is that you are still looking at matter and the universe in three dimensions. Mathematics shows that there are at least 11 dimensions. This would explain how the universe is billions of years old, yet the earth is about ten thousand. You also need to explain how such precise organisms such as the brain could have evolved from nothing. If this were true, then an explosion at a lumber yard would create a three story house complete with deck and garage. I find it less far reaching on my imagination to accept an all powerful God, than a theory than cannot be duplicated in a test tube and is full of contradictions.
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The odds of random processes making something somewhere are much higher than the odds of random processes making a specific thing in a specific place.
I don't know enough about string theory to rebut the first bit, and I don't know enough about abiogenesis except to say that I've *heard* that some biologists have either managed to make bacteria in a test tube or are preparing to.
Morbo disagrees.
If this were true, then an explosion at a lumber yard would create a three story house complete with deck and garage.
This argument is on par with the "leaving a bunch of trash in the garage and it evolves into a brand new BMW" both in pointlessness and stupidity
full of contradictions
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That's all I can say to that
Mathematics shows that there are at least 11 dimensions. This would explain how the universe is billions of years old, yet the earth is about ten thousand.
No, seriously, wtf?
The Earth is younger than the universe. No-one's denying that. They're just denying it's as young as you think.
Apparently, since you can percieve reality in 11 dimensions, why don't you enlighten us and tell us exactly what you see and why it supports your theory?
And, umm, trying to apply all powerful God to science = theory that cannot be duplicated in a test tube and is full of contradictions.
At least it's a house this time and not a Boeing 747 like it usually is.
Basically:
The grass grows, therefore the tree talks.
Could I get a little logic before jumping to conclusions, kthx?
The mathematics (of string theory) suggest that there might be as many as 11 dimensions, but no other dimensions beyond the four dimensions we are familiar with today (3 of space, 1 of time), have ever been confirmed.
String theory really ought to be called string hypothesis, as at the moment it does not surpass the standard model in its ability to explain. However, and quite recently, it has begun to make predictions that might be testable now or in the near future.
But the 11 dimensional model does not behave the way RJ is suggesting anyway. All the everyday objects and forces we see around us happen in the 4 familiar dimensions, for if they did not, we would undoubtedly noticed before now. The implication, that the evidence for billions of years of prehistory on Earth, is a product of some unimagined interaction with some mysterious fifth dimension is beyond fanciful, it's simply absurd.
Like a crystal-healer using the words 'quantum' and 'holographic' to hike her particular brand of hooey, Robert is grabbing misunderstood and misapplied terms from physics to present the Omphalos argument in scientific garb.
Let's see, you have no understanding of evolution, biology, astrophysics, string theory or I suspect your bible.
"I find it less far reaching on my imagination to accept an all powerful God, than a theory than cannot be duplicated in a test tube and is full of contradictions."
Your religion cannot be duplicated in a test tube and is full of contradictions.
Conversely, the basic processes of abiogenesis can and have been duplicated in a test tube. Evolution can also be duplicated, not in a test tube but in a computer simulation, and it works not just for proving the workability of the theory, but for useful industrial application - complicated machines today are optimised based on evolutionary genetic algorithms.
String theory suggests that there are 7 extra dimensions, but they're so small and curled up they're only applicable in dimensions thousands of times smaller than an atom.
Generally, a theory difficult for the average person to understand, let alone the willfully ignorant like Robert.
(Willful ignorance was a phrase I saw somewhere on FSTDT, kudos to him)
My, my...what a Microsoft Word mindset, when an Ascii editor does the trick.
Three physical dimensions, and a healthy serving of the fourth, and, y'know, things happened to have fallen into place in the ways with which we are familiar.
I doubt that the big bang's ultimate purpose was to build a three-story house.
I'll buy the beer volcano theory, but not that lame house/BMW/747 nonsense.
Ok, first off, your example belongs to chaos theory, not the theory of evolution. Evolution is a biological process. Your example of the brain being a "precise organ" shows that you are looking at it backwards. Third, there are plenty of contradictions within your limited understanding of your faith to warrant you don't understand what you are talking about.
Mathematics shows that there are at least 11 dimensions. This would explain how the universe is billions of years old, yet the earth is about ten thousand.
And Bob has actually worked this explanation out mathematically? I'm impressed. We're all waiting for the paper to be published.
First point: this guy's spinning a line of bullshit, like Deepak Chopra or Gary Zukav and their love of "quantum" "physics". Real physicists cringe when they hear this shit.
And the brain didn't evolve from "nothing". But trying to explain the concept of "primitive nerve net" through groups of nerve ganglia through yada yada yada through crinkly cerebral cortex is not something these people wish to comprehend.
Mathematics shows that there are at least 11 dimensions.
Whiskey, tango, foxtrot.
Anyway, there are at most four, counting time.
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Er, no.
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Actually, it shows how the earth was created last tuesday.
because like all fundies, you have a weak imagination.
I find it less far reaching on my imagination to accept an all powerful God, than a theory than cannot be duplicated in a test tube and is full of contradictions."
So Gawd can be duplicated in a test tube? Does that mean that Jesus was the first test tube baby in the world?
No, but the best house designs are reused more, so that houses these days are more fire-proof, weather-proof, and sturdier.
And since when is anyone's brain an organism???
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