Planned Parenthood is pro-rape. It’s good for business and they refuse to report criminal sexual molestation of girls to the authorities as they are required to by law.
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I echo carmen sandiego:
Says who??
Planned Parenthood. As in, making sure people (and I think especially women) have a choice (note that all-important word, 'choice') in their own sexuality and family planning. Rape isn't choice. It's the complete opposite of choice. Not that fundies seem to understand the concept of choice anyway.
Sorry, but no. They aren't required to report anything. It's usually up to the person who was raped to report it.
If a parent brings their minor daughter to the clinic that does carry them out (ie. NOT Planned Parenthood), they aren't expected to give a full account of why their kid is knocked up.
You are a fool, at least your name reflects that.
What they may mean is that Planned Parenthood doesn't report to the police the men who have(consented)sex with underage girls and are over 18, which is statutory rape. However, failing to do so, how does it equate with being "pro-rape"?
I guess you think that Planned Parenthood is getting tons of money from every abortion that's performed? Because that's about the only way this statement could make any sense.
And [citation needed] on the refusal to report sex abuse.
I actually looked it up on ndaa.org (national district attorney association).
I found that:
(1) There is no federal mandatory reporting requirement.
(2) In my state, Ohio, counselors, etc. are not permitted to report rape on behalf of a victim against the victim's desires where it would violate doctor-patient confidentiality.
(3) There are three states (Kentucky, Massachusetts, California) with mandatory rape reporting laws.
(4) Many (most?) states have laws requiring medical personnel to report *other* injuries that appear to be intentionally inflicted. This can bring about difficult legal questions as to the necessity to ALSO report the rape.
In summary, rape reporting laws differ by state. Even where medical examiners may have to report rape to law enforcement, that may not include Planned Parenthood counselors. This data only applies to adults-- I haven't yet looked up the laws on reporting the rape of minors, which may be to what our foolish friend was referring.
However, no matter what the rape reporting laws are anywhere and for anyone, Planned Parenthood is NOT pro-rape.
All three documents I looked at can be found here:
http://www.ndaa.org/apri/programs/vawa/state_rape_reportings_requirements.html
I vaguely remember hearing about this...as Carmen Sandiego said above, it had to do with a state with some sort of reporting law, where they either protested the law or may have, to protect the victim, not reported a suspicious incident. It was an isolated case, regardless and done in the interest of their patient.
Yeah-huh, meanwhile, back in the REAL world....
Oh, wait, are you saying that they don't call the cops for every underaged girl who comes in for birth control? Rather disingenuous of you, don't you think??
Freepers are pro-terrorist. It's good for the military-industrial complex and they refuse to report criminal money laundering to the authorities as they are required to by law.
... Actually my version's pretty close to the truth.
While usually a rape can't be reported unless the victim is willing to go along with it, there is some legal grey area regarding children. Most health care workers are mandatory reporters- they must report any suspected child abuse, including sexual abuse.
I've heard exactly the same argument from liberal pro-choice supporters used against your side, "fool in paradise". That makes both of you assholes.
Waving the "rapist support" flag just makes you both an easy and worthy target for a good headshot.
Lying for the Lord, lying for the Lord, we shall come rejoicing, lying for the Lord.
Also, you haven't provided evidence that you're in paradise.
I echo all the posters before me who said:
Citation Needed.
Hey, it's Free Republic. If they said something intelligent and well thought out, now THAT would be a surprise.
Wait, what?
Who the fuck is abusing children.
What in the slightest fuck does planning when to have a kid have to do with some mystery group profiting off child abuse.
This is out of context and I'm too lazy to read the source but from where I'm standing your making no sense at all.
Why is it I suspect a change of perspective wouldn't change squat.
You can debate whether its a pro-rape position or not, but planned parenthood evidently does not routinely report cases of statutory rape, and resist subpoenas for information on that topic to the extent of paying huge fines for contempt of court. Not that the truth will affect the ideological standpoint of any readers here, any more than it would a fundy's.
Here is the citation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_parenthood#Stand_on_political_and_legal_issues
look esp. at footnotes 16-17.
@ Helena - I would guess if they don't report it would conflict with their strict confidentiality policies. They are the ONLY clinic I've heard of that will actively keep/hide your clinical activities from your health insurance, job, and just about anyone. For someone that is scared of the repercussion of going to a PP (for women's health, STDs, or pregnancy) I would guess they feel protecting the policy is better for their clients.
I, for instance, would rather have a young teenager get her birth control education than not because she's worried about her too old boyfriend being reported. For better or for worse, there is a tradeoff there.
Yup, you sound like a fool allright? How can it be good for business with rape?
Isn't Planned Parenthood all about taking care of the family, making sure that kids are really welcome when they come, that the parents are able to take care of the child?
I think I need the citation from a Planned Parenthood official saying they are pro-rape, before I believe that.
what anon @1164096 said. PP has been known to assure scared teenagers full confidentiality so that they can get them in the door, checked, and provided with any medical need they might have.
Kinda like doctors not reporting illegal immigrants, because they don't want them to avoid medical help and die.
What a fool in paridise is saying is:
"If I were in charge of PP, I would be pro-rape."
You really can't draw conclusions for other people.
The point is, everyone here is reflexively saying that the post is a lie, when (apart form the characterization) its facts are substantially true.
In other words, the community here is proving that they are at heart no different than fundies (I prefer to call them thumpers)and can ignore any truth they find inconvenient.
Right-wing Fundamentalist Christianity is pro-rape. It’s good for slaking their depraved lusts and they refuse to report their criminal sexual molestation of girls to the authorities as they are required to by law, because such exposés further add to the perpetual P.R. traincrash that is the Religious Right. After all, just ask preacher Tony Alamo.
...oh yes, that's right. He's in prison for serial stautory rape, and the only way he's leaving is in a box.
But you can always Google around to find out where he's jailed and check out their meeting hours; I'm sure the prison governor can make an appointment for you to see him.
I work for Planned Parenthood, and I've reported two cases of rape in the last year. It's called mandatory reporting, and yes, we do take part. Thank you very much.
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