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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

Asahel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

What could be considered torture might take several forms... Though we might find it offensive, God prescribed it under the law (stoning, scourging,... et.al), and hell's punishment is and the lake of fire will be torment... Torture <u>performed for pleasure</u>, would be sinful and devilish in nature..." [Emphasis added] - rlvaughn, <a href="http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=62;t=000016;p=6#000082">BaptistBoard</a> <hr color="#ffffff" noshade size="8"> <p align="center"><a name="update">Latest Update</a> <hr color="#ffffff" noshade size="8"> "'several basic pieces of knowledge' [are contradicted by Genesis]? Oh, so it has to be written in the technical jargon of Scientific American to be valid?... [Creationism is] 'Dishonest,' is it? Because it patently contradicts the acknowledged speculations of the nineteenth and twentieth (and maybe three from the 21st) centuries?... Abiogenesis is not itself evolution, but the current model of Evolution mandates abiogenesis.

Jesus_Lives #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I saw NOTHING on the other site to prove anything about the age of the earth. They saw the 'telltale signs' of the light from the earliest stars. How am I supposed to be able to prove/disprove what they are saying when I don't even understand?

Asahel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The descendants of Noah's fancier specimens (behemoth, leviathan, velociraptor, et cetera, et al) do not seem to have adapted very well at all! to the brutal climate shift, and thus to have died out fairly thoroughly, although some question remains as to just when...

Semper_Fi #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The idea of theories is that they will be either proven or disproven. If they are proven repeateadly then it become a law... IE gravity was a theory once. It has since become a law. It became a law becasue they were able to prove it 100% (i would have questions if tehy didnt ).

Jesus Lives #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

You know what I think is sad? A few evolutionists I know say 'You expect us to believe that all 200+ kinds of dogs existing today came from 2 dogs on the ark?' when what they are saying is we came from nothing which exploded (how does nothing explode?) and became planes/solar systems/galaxies/the universe whatever!

Jesus_Lives #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The kind of macro evolution we are taught in schools says that we came from: *drum roll please* NOTHING!!! That nothing EXPLODED!!! (how does nothing explode?) and turning into PLANETS and the STARS!!! which got RAINED ON!!! for a few billion years!!! which turned it into PRIMORDEAL SUOP!!! which evolved in TWO CELLS!!! of DIFFERENT GENDERS!!! which FOUND EACH OTHER!!! in all that primeordal soup. Quite a trick, if you ask me... which takes more faith, Believing THAT, or believing that God created in 6 literal days, as it states in Genisis.

podiscool #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ultimately, my religious views can't be wrong, because the words were breathed out by God in the original manuscripts. Your religious views however, can be wrong, because you are taking the doctrine of fallible men and trying to make them infallible (the essence of the 'theory,' not the details).

JxPx #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I believe that miracles of other probably religious do happen, but not nessicarily because they're God ordained. Jesus said he was the only way to the Father. So, the way I see it, TRUE miracles only come from him.

tom54 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ha ha ha, ohh, I can't believe you people are being disolussioned like this! Are there not abnormailites in humans? We don't treat all these abnormalities as reactivated evolution genes do we? Anyways, I wouldn't believe that picture [with the X-ray of an atavistic human tail, complete with vertebrae and nerve ganglia] unless I saw the girl herself. Don't believe everything you see.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

And you're right, if there is no God, then there is no reason for the universe. We would be a cosmic accident and by all standards we would be insignifgant nothings. Which means we are still no better then worms, which means Hitler, Pol Pot and Sadaam Hussein have done nothing wrong.

the tricky tree #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

What is it with the whole Christian/Catholic thing. Never have i been so confused as when I asked someone if they were a Christian and they replyed I'm a Catholic, I asked the same Question again and i got a blank expression from the person I asked.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The answer is that atheism is not only a belief in no God..It is an agenda, an ORGANIZED effort to kill any sign of God..In fact every year atheists ask for funding from the government...Oh ok, so then you are a religion...Why do the heathen rage? What is making them so angry? Why are they forcing God out of school? Why else would they come onto these boards, blapheme God anyway they can, mock prayer request threads(ahem..paul2), spit on the Bible, spit on faith, and generally hate all organized religion?????

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

lol..like it really matters wheather you feel like something or not, you are nothing w/o God, I am nothing w/o God. It's nice that you have convinced yourself that anything you do good really matters, it's nice that you think you know what good is, good for you is not good for me, and good for me is not the same as someone else. Obviously good for Hitler and Pol Pot wasen't good for the Jews, but what does it matter, WE ALL DIE!! but until you are able to conquer death then anything you do on earth matters not, if there is no God.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Atheism even has missionaries. Those missionaries are on these boards right now!! They came into a board marked "spiritual discussion" WHY?? What are they accomplishing? And why are they trying to accomplish anything? If atheism is the lack of belief in God, then why are they coming on to a board about spirituality?

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Yes we have similar genetics to animals..but you know what, our genes match rats more then they match apes..and we have similar genes to that of house plants. You call it ancestry. I had no idea my great, great, great, aunt was a cactus. meanwhile.. I have yet for you to find somthing irrational about creationism.

WhiteFreak13 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After someone says he's probably 13]NO, I am 14 jackass. And NO, I did not get that from my pastor, i don't go to church. And by the way, Hinduism, Buddism, Islam, All of the other religions that aren't about the God, and Jesus, are just lies made up by the Devil.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

What difference does it make in the long run or even the short run for that matter if we enslave men, or steal things that we need? If I need something and there is no God to punish me for anything then you can bet that I'm going to just take what I need, because I'm going to do what feels good to me at the time. Without God laws are based on feeling, what feels right to me, what feels right to you, and you have no right to tell me what is right for me, you are just another accidental animal.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

One more thing that is always said by atheists is "No one has ever been killed because of atheism." I beg to differ..I believe that every death since the beginning of time was due to atheism. Even the crusades...I believe every single solitary sin, even little white lies, even by a Christian, is caused by atheism...

JxPx #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I just took a college class called "Music In World Cultures". Some of what we discussed dealt with how tribal and religious cultures use music in their spiritual rituals. Some work themselves into a frenzy, and eventually go into trance...or more appropriately labeled, possession.

Gerrard Pedersen #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

my church currently is expieriencing problems where there is demons running amuck in the basement no one has gone and kicked them out, or they said they kicked one out, but theres more then one we thought we finished the problem, then some kid in the daycare reported seeing some sort of thing and was crying

King Russ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Faith comes from within, it is what an individual person experiences with God. It can't be taken away because its conviction is so strong that any misleading scientific theories or rational observations no longer have a bearing on what they see as the truth.

toomanyVoices #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

How can science explain why things were created? And I don't accept other relgion's reasons for why because of problems I have with the other religions. If I don't believe what the rest of the religion says, why would I believe what it says about creation?

King Russ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Didn't scientists used to believe the earth was flat because that's what the evidence suggested? That's what a "rational" scientist would have believed. My point is reason usually fails because it isn't based on exactly what you said it was, EVIDENCE!

Bob #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Why do people try to use this as a way to show how "unfair" God is and how "ludicrous" Christian's are? Bible believing Christian's believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. If mother Teresa didn't accept Jesus than she is in hell. If Gandhi, or any other devout religious or extremely moral person didn't accept Jesus than they are in hell. Whether or not you think that is fair or not isn't the issue. I'm just answering your question..

King Russ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

As a Christian, I believe in the existence of hell as revealed to me in the Holy Scriptures and by the power of the Holy Spirit. A rational person, who believes in Jesus Christ as their saviour, would also believe in His Word, thus the place of eternal torment. The Bible was not written for people like you who claim to be "rational", but for those who "believe", like me!

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