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Faith #fundie evcforum.net

It is ALL interpretation. Don't you see that? Creationists are just as good at coming up with contrary interpretations of any of it given enough experience with the material. There is no PROOF, don't you see? No evidence, no testability, no falsifiability, it's all INTERPRETATION, all PLAUSIBILITIES against PLAUSIBILITIES. Find all the similarities you want they are JUST AS WELL explained in terms of design factors, or, in the case of apparent shared genetic anomalities or mistakes, by the effects of the Fall on all life. Our genes are broken because of the Fall. There is NO COMPELLING REASON to explain any of it in terms of descent.

Tal #fundie evcforum.net

The bottom line is, the theory of evolution will remain a theory until empircal data is obtained that proves that dogs can produce non-dogs and/or dogs came from rocks 4.6 billion years ago.

Tal #fundie evcforum.net

Um...we live in 2005 AD. 2005 years ago Jesus was born. Our whole calander is based on him?

Also, Jesus had a lot of enemies that were still alive when the gospels were written. As likely as it is that those who were actively trying to eradicate Christianity could have simply written a rebuttal to the writings of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, no such rebuttal writings exist. This seems to suggest that the gospel accounts were considered to be factual. The onus seems to be not on me to produce more documentation of his existance, but on you to prove he didn't.

loko #fundie evcforum.net

all presidents and powerful people are occultists, but they fulfil different roles, as christians or muslims etc. They need the world to believe that diversity of religions make conflicts, to establish a one world religion under the rule of the biblical antichrist and prosecute the loyal christians saying they are "closed minded" and have "old patterns of thought" and are "keeping the earth to evolve". This is the kingdom of the beast prophesied in matthew 24 and revelation 13, that the churches don´t want you to know.

Mr. Creationist #fundie evcforum.net

You evolutionists need to realize if you haven't already(you probably have) that we are dealing with the most fundamental of all subjects to be discussed and debated, because who is right changes everything. And for us creationists, well, we don't have to worry about where we will go when we die, evolutionists on the other hand are making a huge gamble on their lives, cause the odds are stacked up against their theory. If we were created, then we were created, there is no probability involved there, it is far more likely that we were created then if we evolved from the Big-Bang. We can all agree that the chances of us evolving without God are very slim, it's like trying to pull out the numbers 1 through 1,000 randomly from a jar without skipping a number or getting one out of order. Those are the odds that you are basing your eternal existence on. The fossil record does not show evolution, math does not show evolution, all of creation in it's designed appearance points toward a Designer! You should at least consider the possibility of God being behind everything, rather than risk eternity in punishment for your willful choice of evolution. I'm not saying to believe in God, but to just set your heart to searching for Him.

Faith #fundie evcforum.net

I've come to understand that many things happened to the earth at the Fall, having to do with God's cursing it for our sake, and that includes the bombardment by meteors that is evident on the moon but not evident on earth -- probably because the Flood erased the craters (I had thought that bombardment must have occurred during the Flood but I believe now it was part of the cursing of the creation with the Fall), and this cursing also includes the "ice age" which explains the development of the wooly mammoth too, as well as that beast's huge tusks and the sabre-toothed tiger and the like for the purpose of defense or killing prey.

MrSmee #fundie evcforum.net

......evolution cannot be used to explain bodily symmetry for one simple reason...In the evolution theory, all things in nature are supposed to be in balance...equal spacing of matter...so it really isn't a fair question that evolution can answer because we know all matter in the universe is not in balance and or equally spaced...trying to use evolution theory as a unit of measure to weigh an argument against or for, is like trying to measure in centimeters with an imperial ruler.

simple #fundie evcforum.net

It is no fairy tale that the bible tells us these things. He planted a garden, and in days, it was grown. It is not possible in this physical world now. Any non atheist scientist out there must know this. To deny the world of spiritual experience, and the bible, only because we believe that only this physical existed, because we can see nothing else, is to confine oneself to the 'box' of physical only. Most people on earth have always known there is more.
Since it may be ignored, but not disproved, you may believe what you want. But don't try to lay some trip on me, where anything else but the puny physical only never existed, or ever will. No one argues that it now is all man has. It is real and great. But it is a small part of the big picture, and the spiritual is not subject to mere physical only tests, restrictions, principles, or laws.
The flood involved more than the physical, the garden did as well, and heaven will too. Trying to stick it all in the box is like trying to get the ocean in a spoon.

JohnDM #fundie evcforum.net

And it was some 3.68 years earlier, was on May 16th 1983, that I had my first and only open-eye Biblical like apparition, when at 2:30am I was woken up whilst sleeping next to my sleeping wife and looked towards the windows, when the curtains ‘disappeared’ and in their place was a large white screen. Then, the metaphysical ‘movie’ first showed me a wilderness location, and temporary accommodation units of a rather different type, in that each unit consisted of four interlocking circular and tents standing on a 10 x 10 metre square base. I knew it was exactly 10 metres because a ‘voice’ spoke into my mind. The second part of the apparition was seeing the Adversary himself face to face and eyeball to eye ball. The appartion showed me clearly that the Devil also resides in Satan for they are as One. So to the metaphysical, the Adversary, seems to like the two common denominators 155 and 508. And Satan at 155 x the Devil 508 and /2,000 is 39.37 and 39.37 inches is one metre, (unless one likes the square root of 1550 at 39.37003937 inches). And the reciprocal of 508 x 20,000 is 39.370078 inches. And there are 508 days from September 11, 2001 to the destruction of Shuttle Columbia on February 1, 2003. Thus the New World Order Elite re-established during the French Revolution a former cubit they termed a metre at 39.37 inches.

messenjaH #fundie evcforum.net

Actually if a human next to a dinosaur enveloped in ice was ever found, it probably would disapear and never reach the public eye. Do you how much evidence has been destroyed and taken by the government and evolutionists.

Theologican63 #fundie evcforum.net

Studies have been done at the moment of death and they have shown that the soul IS present in a body and at death the body is a few ounces lighter. Logic would dictate that the soul was what weighed those few ounces.

messenjaH #fundie evcforum.net

Would you please stop trying to use my age [14] against me... I have read testimonies by creationists (not Hovind) that say they found evidence that would null evolution, but that evidence was either stolen, taken away by government or the owners of the property where the evidence was found or the owners were forced to dispose of the evidence.

booboocruise #fundie evcforum.net

It seems to me that everything around us--plants, brains, eyes, ears, taste buds, cats, dogs, books, electricity, sunlight, and even the belief in God--is all evidence that there must be a God. After all, a nationwide pole shows that 7% of people in the US are actual atheists, and 47% believe the earth to be created within the last 10 thousand years.

booboocruise #fundie evcforum.net

As for dinosaurs--they were around only a few thousand years ago. Let me explain: it was 6115 years ago, give or take about three to five years (I know this because Abraham from the Bible was born 2166 years ago, and all you have to do is add up the ages of ALL the people from Adam to Abraham, which are all listed in the Bible's book of Genesis).

booboocruise #fundie evcforum.net

The thumb is of remarkable design that allows us to pick things up easily, (it would have been much harder to type this comment if I had not thumbs). If we evolved by chance, how would 'evolution' know that we would be in need of a thumb millions of years down the road?

booboocruise #fundie evcforum.net

Anyway, the dinosaurs died out slowly in the years following the flood--because they were the biggest animals among the others, and since the flood killed off most of the vegetation on the earth, the largest animals began to die off by lack of food. [But what about the tiny dinos?]

buzsaw #fundie evcforum.net

Hydrogen and oxygen are volatile agents of combustion, but the same are the only ingredients of water which douses combustion. The designer/creator of these must've had a chuckle, thinking about folks like you when he designed it all so mindbogglingly inexplicable.

Zephan #fundie evcforum.net

[On the evolutionary origin of birds]I say fish. Look at the penguin who swims in both degrees of the firmament! Some species of birds actually fly in both water and air. To me, that's alot more persuasive argument than dinosaurs evolving into birds.

Matt #fundie evcforum.net

I am here typing on my computer. I am thinking, so therefore I must be created by an intelligent designer. Otherwise my conscience wouldn't be here at this moment in time.

Laboo #fundie evcforum.net

As i've read through all these forums, all you evolutionists seem to have different stories, or different "proven!" theories, and ya'll all just basically prove eachother wrong by going on about what you think you know. atleast all us creationists have our facts down right and know what we believe and don't help prove our beliefs wrong.

hobbst3r #fundie evcforum.net

to bad I'm not talking about tuberculosis, do some reading (Im not talking about websites) on the subject and you'll understand that becoming immune [to antibiotics] isn't evolution. Sort of how we become immune to the chicken pox after getting it, or gaining the same immunity from your mother after you are born.

redstang281 #fundie evcforum.net

If you can believe that life was formed from non living material obviously the instincts had to be non existant at some point. How could this trait of an animal killing the young to promote that animal's genes in the gene pool develope without the trait already existing to begin with? How would genes develope an animals instincts?" "Oh I think this example is evidence of a good design, a program to maintain quality control of an animal.

redstang281 #fundie evcforum.net

This isn't really the topic of this thread and I hate to get off topic, but arranging fossil's in a certain order doesn't prove anything. I can arrange a group of pen's on my desk from biggest to smallest but that doesn't prove they evolved from a stapler.

redstang281 #fundie evcforum.net

Oh, and BTW even if I *was* wrong about the TOE you better not come on here and attack me for being ignorant of it when many of you on here are completly ignorant of the correct representation of the Bible and even many creationist theories. Seems pretty critical to me.

mmanubeckm7 #fundie evcforum.net

If you were to present Charles Darwin with the discoveries we have made involving the increased complexity of his original theory, he would even realize his mistake. The man was having a spiritual crisis at the time. Some of his ideas were right, I will admit, but he was really grasping for some new concepts to help himself out. He's not the one who came out and said that we all evolved from monkeys. He's just a poster boy for evolutionists.

redstand281 #fundie evcforum.net

[Replying to 'You think that the cannibalism of the young and weak so a male lion can satisfy his lust is a Godly design?']Yes, it is a quality control. It helps to ensure the strongest of the species breeds its genes into the gene pool, thus helping the created creature kind to have a greater chance at existing longer. I think this makes an aweful lot more sense than any of these scenario's you fella's are trying so desperatly hard to imagine.

redstang281 #fundie evcforum.net

Instintively a male lion will kill a litter of baby lions if it happens across them. This allows the mother of the cubs to come into heat faster and allows for the murdering male lion to mate with the female sooner. Also it helps insure that the strongest male lion is passing along his genes. Could someone describe by strickly the means of natural selection how a lion could acquire this trait?

redstang281 #fundie evcforum.net

[Replying to 'I can't accept it was programmed because it contradicts my image of God'] "You believe in evolution, right? Then your image of God is already not the correct one according to scripture.

AndrewJackson2908 #fundie evcforum.net

The "scientific evidence" is in the historical evidence of the Old Testament. Every civilazation mentioned is dating 10,000 to 15,000 yrs. old. Now you may say the Old Testament is a story book. Well, is has stories but it has been proven to be correct through the DEAD SEE SCROLLS.

Faith #fundie evcforum.net

If no evolutionary pathway can be envisioned this should be a point for creationism. Sure, evolutionists may come up with a plausible scenario -- they're good at that -- but as it stands this is a decent argument against and should be tallied for the creationists.

peter borger #fundie evcforum.net

Furthermore, the recent discovery of organisms that are genetically completely identical without being a clone (I will expand on this in a new thread that I will start this week) is the final blow to evolutionism.

halcyonwaters #fundie evcforum.net

[Here's why Genesis should be taken literally or not at all]

Actually, creationists avoid the God of the gaps argument. That's why I reject Evolution being put into the Bible. The more Man tries to explain the world without God, the more the Bible must fit Man's ideas -- thus becoming a God of the gaps.

ZAURUZ #fundie evcforum.net

I'm the one who's willing to change my view. Creationists see the facts as they are. We don't dogmatically think every organism descend from the same ancestor. We do research about it. You just assume all organisms have a common descent. You adapt your view of the age of the earth so that evolution might be possible. I and many creationists adapt the age of the earth by researches.

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