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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

TwistedSketch #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being asked to explain what sin was commited by babies and blood transfusion recipients to warrant AIDS]

I said it can be, not always. In the case of sexual immorality, it is. Not in the case of the baby. And not in the case of most transfusions, either, unless they had done something horrible and hadn't repented.

POD_CHRISTIANS? #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

God does not cause sickness and disease. When you sin (Christian or not), you move out of the covering of God and are susceptible.

Additionally, God created doctors and gave them the knowledge. Use commen sense and see a doctor if you have a problem.

embodiment777 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On relationships]

Jesus said that we must be willing to hate our brothers and sisters to pick up the cross and follow HIM. If GOD wants you two together, you'll be together. If not, let go, focus on GOD. HE will deliver to you what is to be!

Much Love
E777

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The continued existence of the Jews proves there is a God. (Think about what this means for a moment).

Why would man develop a religious system like Judaism then spend all of his time rejecting it? Surely man would come up with something easier.

learboy #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Unfortunately, some don't see the shame is such a lifestyle and that is why they promote it and endorse it in everyway to the youth of America. They are cleverly trying to utilize the influence of the public educational system to promote their agenda. You say the "gay lifestyle" is NOT a belief system, then please explain to me why there are Gay Churches???? Sounds like a belief system to me my good friend.

DeadMan Walking #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Right after quoting a biologist who wrote 'When scientists speak of evolution as a theory they do not mean that it is a mere speculation. It is a theory in the same sense as the proposition that the Earth is round rather than flat is a theory']

So, even in the scientific community evolution has not been proven to be valid.

nodmailoc #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

And just think of all the people killed and deceived at Satan’s hands. The top 5 killers of all time were either Satanist or Atheists. Does Hitler or Stalin ring a bell? Why don't you consider that? You are a fool Trickster you have believed the great deceiver!

punk4jesus #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The problem in these "developing countries" is that you got people screwing everything that moves. Look at Africa rite now, the reason that you're having that huge AIDS epidemic over there is cause nobody's limiting themselves to just their spouse(s). No amount of condomns is gonna solve the problems being caused there, just abstinence. OOOOHHHHH I just said a bad word there. I'll say it again. Abstinence. Is it too much to ask people to control themselves until they get married?

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to questions of how it can possibly be fair to condemn people based on religion]

Jews, still waiting for the Messiah. They saw Jesus, knew He was the Messiah but chose not to believe Him. The reason the Jews didn't believe in Him was because He didn't typify what God's son would look like. Jesus was plain looking and rejected even among His desciples. The Jews hated Christ.

Islam is really Satans religion. The Muslims accept Christ as a prophet from God but believe Muhammed to be the son of God. The Muslims also believe the OT and NT to be valid forms of doctrine. Now why would God want 'terrorism' to be the main focus of religion. Simply read the Quran, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Christianity is the one TRUE religion. Jesus Christ is the Son of God. We are taught everything Good in this world. God is from the light, there is no darkness in him and as soon as your realise this then you'll see why other religions are wrong. Muslims, Jews, Atheists etc may never change their word because Satan is deceiving them into believing they are right... I can only pray for them.

rockman #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Everyone knows that personal experience wins the argument once and for all]

Trying to make it less of a sin, huh my friend? I know a rape victim, and we also knew the rapist. Apparently he felt it wasn't enough out of her just to see her. A fucking kid's life ruined because some horny fuck needed "more of a response" from his subject.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying again to allegations of hypocrisy relating to Islam and Christian extremists]

How sad. I can tell you right now that as much hatred you have for us then you can double the hatred Muslims feel for you. Feel free to defend the Muslims... the ones that teach death to all people who aren't in the Muslim faith. No the Muslims don't give a flying f**k about YOU or America. How can you be so naive... or are you just a sheep... following the crowd? No, the only people who care about you greatly are the Christians. Do you not understand that? Open your friggin eyes and take a good hard look around.

Arctic Fox #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

My reasons for doubting are simple, yet incredibly hard to explain. Let me say this: look at modern dogs. They vary so much in size, shape, and other characteristics, yet they are all dogs and are produced not by Evolution (chance mutations with survival of the fittest) but by their built-in ability to reproduce. Yet, if you were to give me a plethora of modern dog bones (died within the last few years), I could eventually assemble them in such a way as to make one set of bones appear to be an evolved version of another set. And I could easy do such a thing by insinuating (and assuming) that any "gaps" in my little "evolutionary record" are simply fossils that haven't been found yet, or have been destroyed by whatever means.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the rather unwholesome idea that Jewish people killed in the Holocaust are now in hell for eternity because they didn't accept Jesus]

If the gassed jews are in hell then they're in hell. It doesn't change the way I feel about God. I think that most probably are (except the children). God plainly states He sends no one to hell, but can only save people from hell. He gave people free will to choose heaven or hell... it's actually a choice. I infact believe that since God desires us to be like Him then eventually everyone will end up in Heaven since I don't believe in eternal punishment as justfication. This may go against my Christian beliefs but it's how I truly feel and if I'm wrong... oh well.

['Is there a point where we should reject a powerful tyrant's authority even at great risk of personal injury?']

Yeah if you want to go to hell. I don't.

Asahel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

But Kuuenbu, "Creation" is held by its adherants to be as much of a "theory" as is "Evolution" by its adherants. Both are actually religious doctrines (of Christianity and Humanism, respectively) and "origin-myths" (to swipe a phrase from anthropology), it's just that most (though not all) Humanists are willing to admit it.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the tower of Babel]

Plus there is this lil dude named Satan? yeah. As long as the people did not beleive in God, there are then capabilities that Satan could give them... ungodly wisdom maybe??? Wow, look at our world today!! We know millions of languages.

sniff #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

All that aside, do you live in a freakin' cave? Do you have any gay friends? Good grief, if you want to talk about homosexuality and consequences, as my dead grandfather. Yep, gay, and dead at 56. AIDS. Most of my gay friends are on the same route. Every time one of my friends comes out of the closet I cry. Not because of sin, but because I know how they are going to die. Its a dangerous road they are on. Homosexuality is rarely about two commited life partners. It is usually about getting laid a lot from a lot of different people.

Gerrard Pedersen #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[When asked why, if sorcerers exist, we don't see any one of them displaying fantastic powers]

they dont run around shooting lightning bolts or flying on broomsticks, or battling for the quidditch cup

go to your local big book store and pick up one of the wicca books - in the new age section

they cant do shit really - but they can do some small things and it is all demonic however much they deny it is

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to allegations that Christian extremists can be just as bad as Islamic ones]

Christianity is NO WAY supports the KKK. The KKK may be made up of Christians (I don't know) but they are rascist and not Godly. They are not doing the will of God and what has been taught to them. Abortion clinics are usually the result of hippie do-gooders. Any Christian associated with abortion clinic bombings is doing much evil in the eyes of God. Of course there are going to be so called Christian whackos out there who are going to shame the Christian faith by doing evil deeds, but they are simply rebelling against God... or taking matter into there own hands. I ask you to not base your perception of the Christian religion based on the immoralities of idiots. I ask you to read the Bible, a law based on love, kindness and most importantly, truth. There you'll seek the true nature of God.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being mocked for misrepresenting Newton's laws]

i dont know if u have ever took science class. i think it was newton who discovered it. one of the things he said in the law is "what comes up must come down."

and by the way. there is no law of evolution. darwin the founder even has said it is a theory. and to this day it is not proven. neither is creation but there is more proof to support chritianity than evolution.

embodiment777 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being asked to answer some questions to clarify his position on medicine]

Ok Crash I'll answer your questions. However I'll answer them according to my faith.

['Do you believe that bacterial infections do not exist?']

1.I believe bacterial infections do exist, but if you live a pure and Godly life in Christ, then you won't have to worry. (Bible quote: Even their poison will not harm you)

['Do you not believe in viruses?']

2. Same answer as #1

['Do you believe that mental diseases are caused by demon possesion?']

3.yes I do

['Do you believe that sickness is simply demonic influence or perhaps a direct result of sin?']

4. A direct result from sin is demonic influence. (The day you taste the sulfur will make you believe this.)

['I'm trying to understand if you're totally contradicting hundreds of years of medicinal research or just in some way explaining it in spiritual terms.']

5. Medicinal expertise has nothing on GOD. The answers above should give you what you need.

If I can help you with anything else let me know.
Peace
E

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Probably wondering about Bible verses describing Satan as the 'prince of the powers of the Earth']

This may sound stupid but it's food for thought none the less.

If Satan is behind all temptation and works the ground of the earth then wouldn't temptation be non existent in space, since Satan is not in space but on earth?

So basically what I'm saying is did the people who went into space (Armstrong, Space station etc) ever feel tempted by anything ungodly?

If they didn't well then that proves temptation is from satan but if they did then I think that can be explained by inner demons... of which we all have.

Any thoughts?

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being asked if Hell makes any sense at all]

Absolutely not. The only reason I believe in hell is cause it's in the Bible and since I believe the Bible to be Gods word then I believe there's a hell. If it wasn't in the Bible then I would thinks it's a fantasy and untrue.

TwistedSketch #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I've got jury duty this week. I was able to postpone it from spring break until now. So could you guys pray for me to either not get selected (since fall semester is starting real soon) or if I do to makie the judgement God would have me make and somehow handle the load of that, work, and school. Thank you.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ungodly wisdom is wisdom that does not involve God.
"Avoid useless and unGodly chatter..." Wisdom too maybe?

We are to Think holy.

Godly wisdom (speaking in tngues) glorifies God. Trying to figure out other peoples language for no good reason does not. Infact, it causes wars more than peace...

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

God isn't forcing His love upon us. If He did then we would have no choice but to love Him. He'd be taking away our free will. So He's giving us a choice. Love Him and your reward is Heaven. Reject Him and condemn yourself to Hell. They are the two options God has presented us with and the ONLY two options. Remember God doesn't send us to hell, we condemn ourselves to hell. You give your wife a choice, "stay with me and we'll spend the rest of our lives together or go your away and never see me again". Are we as Christians afraid of Hell? Very much so, but it's necessary for us to keep our love in the Lord or risk losing faith.

embodiment777 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being asked whether he's in effect saying that sick people should be exorcised instead of being treated by doctors]

I can't remember the exact verses. But the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are are full of them. So yes that is what I'm saying.
If you don't believe that then you are denying the WORD of GOD!

bob_the_warrior #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

He can not be disproven either!!
Faith is all we need to belive and have proof of GOD.
although i can not prove God YOU can not disprove GOD. Thank you.
geez why are u all so thick headed u dont have faith? or too lazy to belive? plz read the proof! The bible.

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