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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Hell is real... hell is fire. That's where the unsaved go. The universalists believe since it is Gods will for all to go to heaven ALL will go to heaven. They believe hell is on earth and when you're saved you're actually saved from sin and not hell. Universalists are unscriptual and a cult. Stay away from them!

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Because I know what the scientific "evidence" is but I just don't buy it. I believe that if evolution were true and we descended from apes, that is Man came from apes because we evolved from a lower into a higher being, then apes would have slowely died out. And why did all humans evolve in the exact same way? How did all the organs evolve and still work? You see all of the organs are needed to sustain life and if we came from one molecule, that one molecule needed the entire package in order to live. But to me science dosen't prove that molecules could have done that. Why isn't there half ape half man? Why don't some have wings? We could use wings, that would get us places faster and if evolution is true then maybe we would have evolved into that. I know that all seems corny and stupid to you, but its the little questions like that that just make evolution so unbelievable. Hey I didn't inherit Christianity and that was it. I looked at both choices and decided that A created world is much more feasable. That's just what I believe given the evidence. Evolution severly violates the law of non-contradiction. Which makes it an impossibility.
It shouldn't be a huge deal that people believe otherwise but scientists have a hardcore agenda and does not tolerate creationists. Which is silly and wrong, and to me hurts their case even further.

Amessenjah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On allegations that other religions have trinities of gods too]

Christianity didn't take this from the pagans. Demonic spirits introduced it to pagans.

Christians know this for sure, that satan is always trying to impersonate the true God. Why do you think he was cast down to the earth?

POD FANATIC GUY #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On a topic discussing whether nudity is immoral]

no nudity is not immoral. It is quite normal and dignifying for a man to show his penis outside while strolling to buy milk. Or a woman to show off her boobs while working, it would make every fellow employee especially the males one to feel excited to go to work. That can either be the worse question ever asked or your probably desensitized from watching porn.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

is that why people see visions of hell. or possesions. or that scientists have discovered a place in the center of the earth that is a perfect condition for hell(which is where many christians believe it to be). read the book by mary k. baxter "a divine revelation of hell"---ull see what im talking about.. in the 1970s for 40 nights she was given a guided tour of hell and was told to write a book about it.(dont argue back before you read it)---also talk to someone who has seen visions of it.

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On hell being totally unjust]

I often wonder how people develop such negative concepts of God and maintain such hostile attitudes toward a deity.

Regardless of the "hoop" one must jump through, one must either jump or face the wrath of the deity. Shaking the fist and calling the hoop unfair really doesn't change the situation.

If God said, "You must sodomize three animals before you die" in order to get to heaven, then you had better get humping. Obviously, that's not the case, but I wonder if everyone would complain as much?

groove #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I dont think music in itself is evil (like the early church monks used to think there where evil intervals like the tritone) but what is done with the music and the various bad messages (kill yourself, worship evil, womanize, etc...) it can contain. For instance before I came to really know Christ I listened to a lot of music that I dont listen to know, for example Nine Inch Nails. Im a huge fan of electronic music and I think Trent Reznor is a real genious. Unfortunately I just cant listen to his music anymore, because of songs like "Heresy" which goes, " God is dead and no one cares, if there is a hell i'll see you there". It brings me down.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

And my faith is brought upon that circulat logic, and if you are INTERPRETING the bible, then you must have a something that backs itself up. It does that.
If you an atheist that disagrees witht eh bible, then yes you are right, and yes, it shows you have no faith, but for the people who do have faith,it varifies what is right and what is wrong.

tinskysk8 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Well, on a personal standpoint and being a Christian the only literature I need to read to understand there is proof that Jesus existed and that He had a brother named James is the bible. I dont care what the scientist have to say, I dont care what the LA times has to say..or any person out there. I have my proof and that is why I believe.

sniff #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On clinical depression]

While what you are experiencing may simply be demonic attack exacerbated by isolation from a community, it may also be a physiochemical imbalance needing a medical doctor's intervention. Please do look into both courses of action.

isthisforrealorwhat #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ok, seriously, this is really sucky logic. First of all, there are more women who are Christians than men, and not just here, but all over the world. Secondly, the Bible doesn't treat women like trash, it places them where they belong, in submission to their husband, and before everyone jumps on me, take note that the women who were not married were only to submit to Christ and the authority of the land they lived in. JUST LIKE MEN.

And on the topic of WOMAN bringing sin into the world, WRONG. Adam is blamed through ALL of Scripture for the fall of man.

Look at it this way, Eve, SHE had to have a TALKING snake come and tempt her to get her to sin, Adam, all it took was a hot chick saying 'here, taste this'.

Oh, yeah, and the whole 'crutch' thing.... I, along with MILLIONS of other Christians like me, who have come out of the FALSE Religious System in this world, do not, believe in this 'hell' place, serve God out of Love for Him, not fear.

The excuse that God is a absentee landlord, tyrant, torturous, cruel, (etc.) being up in the sky is a crutch for athiests and agnostics, to give them a good reason not to believe.

So 'hell' is actually a crutch for the athiest, not the Christian.

khazul #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

If you are a serious Christian the predominant thing in your life is following Jesu Christ and his teachings. Your marriage and dates should serve primarily to uplift you and encourage you in your growth in God. You cannot be restricted by a non-Christian mate. All they will do is serve to hold you back from doing God's will and the having the best in your life. It's impossible for a non-Christina and a Christian to be meant for eachother.

tragic_pizza #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On how to avoid sexual temptation]

As such, several others have hit the nail on the head. Refraining from activity that would promote promiscuity, i.e. drugs and alcohol, practicing restraint with regards to the opposite sex (you can date; dating does not mean you must bump uglies), engaging in activities like sports; I would also add prayer and Bible study to the list.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I'm certainly not saying the Repubs are without fault, I'm just saying the Democrats want nothing more then to take away the religious freedom we hold so dear. If you don't believe it look at California and Florida..Democrats in those states are working to take God out of the pledge. Republicans stand for government getting the heck out of the way so Americans can live their life freely.

Gerrard Pedersen #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On Hinduism in India]

the difference between here and over there, is that over here, our faith is always under constant question and testing

if anybody over there put there faith to the test, in a search for the truth it would be most probably be blown out of the water pretty fast

Amessenjah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

At the point were the baby will 100% die [and kill your wife], in which I don't agree a doctor should say,ever, there would not be much choice would there? But do you let God have control of the situation or do you take human life in your own hands [and perform an abortion]? I guess at that point a person would have to ask themself if they believe in God. Then have faith that God will perform a miracle.

Amessenjah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I am sure there is plenty of statistics you can check out. I really don't know why you would need proof though. The obvious is right in front of us everyday. Just put yourself in a person's situation who is addicted to porn. Ask, what is porn doing to that person's life. How could there life be better without it. It starts with victoria secret, then to playboy, then he goes to the free porn sites, then he buys a xxx subscription, then hes sending nude pictures, then hes receiving them, then hes chatting to fourteen your old girls who don't have a dad to give them affection and the guy ends up raping and killing her, then going home to his wife and kids.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I know that it is getting close to Halloween so you see ghosts every wear in the stores. That makes me wonder. What are ghosts? They have been documented and scientificaly researched. Evan the most sane people see hauntings. I've taken a tour of an actual huanted house (The Whaley House, San Diego, CA) I know that when you die you go to Judgment Day and so on and so forth. Are these realy spirits of the departed. I was an amateur paranormal investigator and I have seen some pretty wierd stuff. I just want to know what it is. Is it a demon? It could be but demons are monopreasant. Multiple ghosts can be seen. Is there some cross between Heaven and Hell when spirits srill walk the Earth.

TVURocksAmerica229 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Revrand [another poster] is Satan's servant and he is under the power of Satan. I don't care WHAT anyone thinks of me, but I know that this person is under control of demons. He needs to repent and surrender his life to JEsus Christ and the one true God. As I was reading this forum, i just started crying because I can't believe my generation. It just digusts me that satan is deceiving so many people into beleiveing his lies. We Christians need to stand up to this oppresion under the power of Jesus Christ and resist. We have power over the enemy and satan and his followers are already crushed under the Almighty God. We need to stand up against this now and expose the truth of our God to this country.

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I wouldn't necessarily say W.Y.R.I.S.W.Y.S.2 [another poster] is serving Christ. His language and intolerance is as bad as what mine used to be. Anyway, he was talking about becoming an atheist a while back... the most visible sign of an unsaved person.

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