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Religious Fanatic #fundie forums.anglican.net

I was in the hospital recently or one of those places that do group therapy because I was taken in by authorities for expressing homocidal tendencies towards bishops and other Roman catholics who left me damaged and traumatized in the past. I tried contacting the reverend of our local Anglican church and after leaving a few messages, was ignored while pleaing for help in the hospital. I was also ignored today when I asked the secretary if she would tell him to call me when he came back. I have heard Catholics of any sort are cold and distant and most of them from my experiences (and from the testimonies I've read by others) are very insular. I feel neglected and unwanted and conflicted by all sorts of things that I want to ask them about. Both orthodox Anglican churches I have contacted have ignored me and are very difficult to get in touch with. This is entirely alien to my evangelical Protestant experiences, as these churches seem to leave us in the dust. I was told by a dissident Roman Catholic from Ireland (Cameron) that both RC and Anglican churches are very isolated from doing outreach or offering help like evangelical churches are. I am finding it difficult to believe these are real churches in any regard and it reinforces my longstanding prejudices against Catholicism of any sort.

Religious Fanatic #fundie forums.anglican.net

Insulting non-believers

But if the Spotless One could call people a brood of vipers and children of the devil, I guess sinless wrath is technically possible...

I heard this argument used at an abusive and very hypocritical apologetics forum. They'd use it as an excuse to indulge their carnality. Every single opportunity to exercise their cruelty was given on account of this. They had a very cult-like mentality where they gave you the impression they were the only ones who did things right and all the generosity shown by the more fruit-bearing humble Christians was a fraud. They believed it was more humble to believe in biblical errancy because it was more in touch with modern times, using terrible arguments that had adequate resolutions (I assume because if you leave a door open for errancy in scripture, you can give a foothold to reject other parts you don't like more easily), held to a lot of post-modern political views that were not reconcillable with scripture just to appear 'counter cultural', had a lot of rude and impious humor, a very inconsistent standard of criticism when picking others apart, and a disturbing ambition to spread their cancer to the internet at large. The two notable apologists of this community, known as TheologyWeb, were JP Holding of Tektonics and Nick Peters of Deeper Waters. Both were calloused and cruel, hated by all and fiercely loyal to the cult. They always talked about how important the trinity and resurrection were to Christianity but their behavior was repelling to many. They were mostly preaching to the choir, and TWeb had a serious lack of success in gaining converts overall, unlike the more humble, traditional apologists. After suffering mental abuse by the members while desperately seeking help in the midst of spiritual anguish and doubt, I managed to break away from the community. I prayed, at first for vengeance, but then tried to remain humble and ask that the wolves be driven out and those who still had some potential to do good would repent and use their gifts for good, and that the site would disappear in some way or another or be stifled from influencing the rest of the world.

I eventually learned around 2014 that the site, shortly after I left and prayed, had lost their entire decade-long history in a massive hard drive crash with no backups except the most recent ones that year, and everything else had vanished. Several ardent members left the community to pursue other interests, some taking on a more radical disposition or adopting heretical views, a few even abandoning the faith, and that JP and Nick left the site to pursue their own work separately. And while JP and Peters still defend some rather liberal, erroneous postmodern views, they eventually cleaned up a lot of their contributions and work to remove the demeaning and mocking tone it once had. I consider it the work of God in some way. I hope they continue to grow out of their errors and see the light, as all of us should.

When I look back, I realize how little TheologyWeb taught me about theology. They had some very superficial arguments for some of the bigger aspects of the Christian faith I mentioned, like the resurrection, but nothing that hadn't been explained just as well elsewhere, with all the errors and liberal 'scholarship' excised. I am still angry when I remember the things people did and said to me there, and am mad at myself for falling into the snare and becoming addicted to it so as to allow myself to be abused, but it was a hard lesson to learn. A lot of internet apologists are spreading heresy and liberalism, trying to pass it off under a kind of psuedo-orthodoxy, and it's doing a lot of damage when a lot has to be done in this day and age to defend Christianity from an accurate point of view.

Religious Fanatic #fundie forums.anglican.net

Over half of millennials no longer Christian

I take humanism and it's doctrines seriously since there's been times in my life where I was seriously bewitched by their anti-christian propaganda. The smiling, cute-looking, 'nice' atheists portrayed in the humanist movements make me sick to no end, only because I believe their claims to be more loving in general than Christians is an outright lie, and very dangerous. I do not think homosexuality, abortion, gender dysphoria, and radical feminism deserve even the slightest bit of pity. Many of their narratives to make it seem that the church 'hurt them' are only superficially true. I've been the target of severe misunderstandings from my Christian brethren regarding my struggles in particularly shameful sins like pornography, or lust, among other things, yet I do not take any account that rejects the church entirely on its opposition to these sins as something to be pitied. I generally choose not to associate with humanists or atheist fundamentalists when given the opportunity. Their arrogance and false charity is truly abborent. I have no problem saying that I think communists and many extremists who murdered millions using evolution and other atheist filth as their justification were actually consistent atheists. Some of them can be good to an extent but they'll never reach their proper potential as a sanctified soul without the Christian faith. Even if it is a lie, it works well enough.

I can usually tell when someone is seriously irreligious without them saying it outright. Even fake Christians I am usually good at weeding out, since they tend to gravitate towards worldly cares and arrogance more often than not. A lot of nominally Christian types make me sick.

Religious Fanatic #fundie forums.anglican.net

... do you still fear atheists?

Yes, I had an atheist fundamentalist psychiatrist who tried to destroy my religious beliefs in a rather calloused and unsavory manner, said I was biologically determined to be miserable and should commit suicide, that sexual abuse victims were the real enemies as pedophiles are good people and helping the world by removing religious shame of destructive perversions, that we don't need to be charitable, that he didn't care if I was hurt because he didn't have to bear the burden of feeling sorry for me, etc.

The fundamentalist atheists are the most carnal and demonic people in existence, and they do harm by dressing their wicked ideas up in pretty academic language to sway gullible minds into thinking they're wiser and more loving than they really are. I do not agree that, even if there are some secular people involved in philanthropy and charity, that the ratio of Atheists doing charity is higher than the religious. There have been times in history when religious people have done harm, but now it is in the hands of Atheists in communists countries and in the secular elite 'academia' with people like Peter Singer and other corrupt 'intellects' spreading their cancer. I don't believe the people who murdered others in the name of Jesus (except in self-defense) were true Christians, but I do believe that Communists are real secular fundamentalists and that atheists who deny they were really Atheists make up the most ludicrous mental gymnastics to explain why that is. Communist belief in labor being higher than other purposes is consistent with Richard Dawkins saying all we do is breed and then die. Controlling of how many babies you can have is in accordance with a flawed humanistic reasoning and prediction on when and why it's appropriate to let someone have children. Atheists say we need abortion and less babies to preserve resources, but regardless most secular nations and people are selfish and do not have as many kids as the religious. It's an excuse to justify their selfishness like when they think they're being nice by promoting euthanasia, when that does the same thing as what killing in war does to the human conscience. It also warps the doctors' perception of human life when it comes time to evaluate other matters of concern once they've practiced this continuously and been desensitized, and exploitations and injustices due to euthanasia have already been taking place in countries where it was allowed and thought a good idea. Same with prostitution. It's just an excuse not to care and 'take out the trash'. I wouldn't want to be under their mercy.

BibleHoarder #wingnut #fundie forums.anglican.net

I've been to psychiatrists who will openly endorse pedophilia, beastiality and incest when no one is looking, and tell you they protect and encourage their patients who admit to practicing it. They'll say the taboo against it is due to 'puritanical brainwashing' from our Christian heritage that needs to be educated out of society by the destruction of anything to do with religion. I am not surprised. It is a brazenly atheistic profession that denies the spiritual realities and dimension which afflicts us everyday and claims the soul is just the brain.