the only reason that evolution has run away from abiogenesis is that it is such a blow against evolution. either God created life, or it evolved on its own from self-replicating molecules....if life couldn't evolve from self-replicating molecules, then why should anyone believe that life evolves now?
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@szena:
Yup. All Darwinian evolution requires is an imperfect means of inheritence and a differential probability of survival. A self-replicating molecule will do just fine.
The reason evolution and abiogenesis are held as separate is that how you get that far is irrelevant as far as evolution is concerned. It could be a physiochemical sure thing, a product of pure chance, God, aliens or time travellers for all 'evo' cares.
All that matters is that there is abiogenesis.
Fundies act like the ToE exists for the sole purpose of disproving God, which it actually doesn't, anyway.
Even if some god or gods made the first life, what does that prove? That there was only one god? That the god or gods still exist? That the god or gods have any other powers? That humans and chimps didn't descend from a common ancestor? Disproving abiogenesis wouldn't make the nonsense about talking snakes, magic trees and women made from ribs any more believable.
How many time does one have to explain it?
ln simple terms.
Abiogenesis: how life got started.
Evolution: how life changes.
Get it now?!
Everybody commented on the rest, so I just wanted to say:
"either God created life, or it evolved on its own from self-replicating molecules"
False dichotomy, sucker. There could be thousands of other possibilities.
Fundies hate the theory of evolution because it means their god didn't create man from dirt and woman from the rib of man.
We kinda don't really know how abiogenesis happened as far as I know.
The point is that just because we don't have the answers doesn't mean yours is right.
Imagine if no-one knew how the pyramids were built (okay, accepted consensus is slave labour from many slaves, but imagine that's not the case) so I can assert that they in fact weren't built but just grew in place. Since nobody else knows how they were made, that means I must be right, right? Wrong.
Confused?
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