"In case you do not remember, the inquisition was a period of time when the Roman church gave people the option to convert to catholicism or be tortured and killed.
The roman church is also responsible for the massacre of the Anabaptists in numerous locations - the Anabaptists would not convert to catholicism and would not stop distributing the Word of God.
As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Aside from that, this war was not a religious war.
As a Christian, I believe you can worship however or whatever you want. Just be warned that you will face Jehovah and give an account.
On the other hand, non-Christians such as Catholics and Muslims would have any worship, other than their own, shut down and all people worshiping their false religions."
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<<On the other hand, non-Christians such as Catholics and Muslims would have any worship, other than their own, shut down and all people worshiping their false religions."">>
No, we just don't want you imposing your insanity on the rest of us.
'On the other hand, non-Christians such as Catholics...'
Ooh, bitingly subtle there, Randy. It's times like this that I have to remind myself you're nothing more than a fat bastard who has nothing better to do than preach your cult on the Internet.
And yes, the settlers most likely did want to live in peace, only those pesky Indians didn't really appreciate being invaded.
Now tell me, would I seem like a peaceful person if I walk into your backyard and say "Ok, this is mine now, too bad for you, even though you were here first. Scram, you savage." Even if I wasn't brandishing a gun and threatening your family (which the settlers did), that would still be rather violent in principle, wouldn't it? The settlers wanted to live in peace, by driving people away with violence.
Catholics, not Christians? How do they justify this kind of nonsense, especially when Protestantism almost didn't happen? If the Catholic church had either reconciled with Luther, killed Luther, or if there weren't so many greedy German princes, it probably wouldn't have become a viable movement.
"In case you do not remember, the inquisition was a period of time when the Roman church gave people the option to convert to catholicism or be tortured and killed."
Not really much different than God's deal - Believe in Jesus or be tortured for eternity.
"The roman church is also responsible for the massacre of the Anabaptists in numerous locations - the Anabaptists would not convert to catholicism and would not stop distributing the Word of God."
Christians of many ilks have slaughtered others, including other Christians, throughout the ages.
"As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace."
Live in peace on land they stole from native Americans.
"Aside from that, this war was not a religious war."
Not entirely true. Often the settlers slaughtered native Americans with little or no remorse because the native Americans were not Christians.
"As a Christian, I believe you can worship however or whatever you want."
Yes, except that you advocate for laws which discriminate against those who don't worship as you do.
"Just be warned that you will face Jehovah and give an account."
Prove it.
"On the other hand, non-Christians such as Catholics and Muslims would have any worship, other than their own, shut down and all people worshiping their false religions."
Face the facts, dinkwad, Catholics are Christians. Not your breed of Christians, but Christians nonetheless.
I don't see Catholics being more intolerant and judgemental than the evangelical, Baptist dipstick branches of Christianity. Certainly they are no worse than you, BR.
And now, a musical tribute to Bro. Randy:
Really don't mind if you sit this one out.
My words but a whisper -- your deafness a SHOUT.
I may make you feel but I can't make you think.
Your sperm's in the gutter -- your love's in the sink.
So you ride yourselves over the fields and
you make all your animal deals and
your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away in
the tidal destruction
the moral melee.
The elastic retreat rings the close of play as the last wave uncovers
the newfangled way.
But your new shoes are worn at the heels and
your suntan does rapidly peel and
your wise men don't know how it feels to be thick as a brick.
Dear BR,
The native indigenous people of North America were living in peace until the evil invaders brought death, destruction, slavery and their religions with them.
Change your religion, or be tortured and killed is an OPTION in your fucked up world?
Catholics are christians no matter how badly you wish it weren't so. Fucking deal with reality for a change, you ignorant fuck.
The settlers wanted to live in peace? Sure that's true I suppose, Right after they took advantage of and slaughtered the "red-devils" and "heathens" that infested the new land they just stole. Fuckheaded revisionist cuntdrip.
Randy tends his flock.
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In case you do not remember, the inquisition was a period of time when the Roman church gave people the option to convert to catholicism or be tortured and killed.
I'm assuming that Randy is speaking of the Spanish Inquisition, which was ordered King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella. The last time I checked, the king and queen of Spain were not the representatives of the Catholic Church.
The roman church is also responsible for the massacre of the Anabaptists in numerous locations - the Anabaptists would not convert to catholicism and would not stop distributing the Word of God.
Are you talking about the slaughters led by Bloody Mary, or the ones led by various German princes during the religious war that occurred shortly after the Reformation?
As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Aside from that, this war was not a religious war.
No, I'm quite sure that there were different reasons for each individual conflict between the Natives and the settlers. However, the main reason behind most of these conflicts was land, which the settlers would often kick the Natives out of if they didn't become integrated into western culture (this included converting to Christianity).
As a Christian, I believe you can worship however or whatever you want. Just be warned that you will face Jehovah and give an account.
Do I really need to say what's wrong with this statement?
On the other hand, non-Christians such as Catholics and Muslims would have any worship, other than their own, shut down and all people worshiping their false religions.
Then explain how I've known so many Catholics and Muslims who do not want this.
Also, Oliver Cromwell. Look him up.
Double standards at its best. You can live in peace in America but not in Catholic countries. As long as the war isn't religious, you can kill as much as you want to. And by the way, do you really believe that Catholics were not persecuted in protestant countries?, that they're not Christians? what about the witch hunt or the quakers killings?. This guy needs a history class, URGENT.
As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Just not with the natives, right???
Your justification for the genocide against my people is obscene and immoral.
GO DIE IN A FIRE.
non-Christians such as Catholics and Muslims
Ignoring that catholics are christians again???
"As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Aside from that, this war was not a religious war."
Ever hear of the Trail of Tears? Yea, that was the white man's 'peaceful' solution to the so-called 'savages.'
"On the other hand, non-Christians such as Catholics and Muslims would have any worship, other than their own, shut down and all people worshiping their false religions."
Since Catholics worship Christ, that makes them *gasp!* Christian! But you're such an elitist bastard that you'll never understand that.
The rest of the statement is just as wrong; I know plenty of Catholics and Muslims who prefer religious diversity.
Hate to tell you this Randy, but the only thing the Southern Baptist and Anabaptist have in common is a belief in adult baptism. The Anabaptist are now Mennonites and Quakers. They are TOTALLY opposed to involvement in war or government, unlike YOUR Southern Baptist who sound more like a hawkish political party in their conventions than a religious denomination. You cannot change the fact for all your lies and blow-harded propaganda that the Catholics are Christians(maybe the idiots on your web-site are too stupid to know the definition of Christianity, but normal people have dictionaries and encyclopedia). The ONLY true requirement for being a Christian is accepting Christ as your Saviour. Rapture and born-again are simply dogma of certain Christian sects and are NOT defining Christian tenets. Go blow your fundie smoke up someone else's ass.
Catholics have been slaughtering Protestants, and Protestants have been slaughtering Catholics since the 16th Century. The issue is always which side is best loved by their imaginary friend.
Does anyone recall the last time opposing atheist armies took to the field to determine which side had the better disbelievers?
I love the "settlers wanted to live in peace" statement. The settlers here did exactly what Christian missionaries and settlers have done to indigenous peoples around the world: they patronized the natives, stole their land, destroyed their traditions, substituted their own superstitions for those created by the natives, and killed without compunction whenever it was convenient to do so.
No society was ever improved in any manner by the introduction of Christianity.
BR, as an American Indian, I would have to say, GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!
On a side note, why do none of the T4C links work?
"The roman church is also responsible for the massacre of the Anabaptists in numerous locations - the Anabaptists would not convert to catholicism and would not stop distributing the Word of God."
And insofar as this is true, the Catholics got away with it largely because the governments were also Catholic. So remind me again why "separation of church and state" is a bad thing?
"...non-Christians such as Catholics..."
...the HELL??
And right on, flipper. I have tremendous respect for people with Anabaptist roots, such as Mennonites, Quakers...even the Amish, although they can be pretty messed up themselves. Now Southern Baptists on the other hand...ugh. Ever since the uber-conservative takeover of that denomination, they've been moving further and further from the actual gospel of Christ in favor of legalism, misogyny, homophobia...you name it.
Did you know that baptists are not real christians? It's a fact! After the inquisitions, the Catholic priests tried to hide from answering for their deeds. They started calling themselves baptists, after their leader Adolf Baptista. This is where the start of the baptist church came from. Feel free to make up your own story. Say it enough, and it will become a fact.
And if we just change hats -- like so -- we're no longer the same organization that killed all those people. Just like when we change presidents next year, we'll no longer be the same country many accuse of a needless war.
Not that I necessarily oppose it myself. I know not enough of the truth behind it, and don't believe either party's lies.
As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Aside from that, this war was not a religious war.
Native Americans held many places and much land as sacred.
Do you not know the definition of sacred?
It's strangely comforting in this timeof change that there are eternal verities: such as Br Randy's inevitable hypocritical rants, factual errors, and "holier than thou" platitudes.
The sheer joy of reading him once again condemning that which he'd do if he could takes my breath away.
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History Revisionist, death by irony, and no true scotsman.
Yep, it's Bro Randy alright.
As a Christian, I believe you can worship however or whatever you want. Just be warned that you will face Jehovah and give an account.
You can choose anything you want, but make any choice I don't want you to and I'll punish you infinitely.
DIAF.
"In case you do not remember, the inquisition was a period of time when the Roman church gave people the option to convert to catholicism or be tortured and killed."
And your religion is a spin off OF Catholicism. Funny how they don't represent you unless you want to play the majority card.
"The roman church is also responsible for the massacre of the Anabaptists in numerous locations - the Anabaptists would not convert to catholicism and would not stop distributing the Word of God."
Even if it is the same God...
"As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Aside from that, this war was not a religious war."
Live in peace...on land that they stole. Heavens forbid the heathens get their hackles up over being pushed off of their land...
"As a Christian, I believe you can worship however or whatever you want. Just be warned that you will face Jehovah and give an account."
And I will ask him where he was when I was being abused by my stepdad. Where he was when I wanted to be a normal kid, and not a filthy ghey condemned to hell. Why he chose to test me with a life of misery, but not the rest of the general populace. If I'm gonna burn, I'm gonna get a few things off my chest first.
"On the other hand, non-Christians such as Catholics and Muslims would have any worship, other than their own, shut down and all people worshiping their false religions."
Shiny, shiny mirror...
As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Aside from that, this war was not a religious war.
Hey, Bro. Randy, just to let you know, as of today your house is now mine. What? You say that it's yours? Tough luck, buddy, I've got a gun, I say that you move. You say it's not right? Well, it's your fault for being an Protestant, for believing in that filthy, heathen trash.
As for the wars between the Native Americans and the settlers: The settlers wanted to live in peace. Aside from that, this war was not a religious war.
Stealing their customs, religion, and land is peace?
He's actually USING the inquisition now to prove that "christians" are kind? Hey fuckstick! Back then all the christians were catholics. Also, Protestants, Catholics, Muslims, are all part of the same STUPID cult. Just because you spell god differently doesn't make you any less stupid.
Seeing as how this was a year and a half ago when the pedo Randy posted this, I can say with confidence, after seeing all the shit he's been spouting, that he is a boldfaced liar.
Randy roasting on an open fire
An apple stuffed in his oversized mouth.........
BTW, i got to the site just fine. Maybe he's banning IPs now?
During the Inquisition, there were NO Anabaptists ! No Presbyterians, no Anglicans, no Methodists, Lutherans, Protestants or what have you! Before Martin Luthor, all Christians were CATHOLIC!!
" The settlers wanted to live in peace. "
Lie some more, shitstain, I can use the laughs.
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