The bottom line is this: Whether you "believe it or not" - most prophecies outlined in the Books of Daniel and Revelation have already come true, and there are just a few more to go. According to the Scriptures, life on earth as we know it is about to come to an end - perhaps as soon as between 2017 to 2030. This is evidenced by the fact that Yeshua (Jesus) has so far fulfilled the first FOUR of the SEVEN Biblical Feasts - and the last three will be fulfilled almost simultaneously.
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" most prophecies outlined in the Books of Daniel and Revelation have already come true"
And which prophecies would those be? The ones that are "fulfilled in spirit" in absence of actual fulfillment or the ones that amount to "it was prophesied that some people would call our religion bullshit" and "it was prophesied that in the future there would be wars, plagues and natural disasters like the kind that have been going on throughout human history" ?
Really? I had thought the tribulation was supposed to be bad. We have record low crime, record low teen pregnancy, record low deaths in combat, and record low poverty in the world. We have more civil rights than ever before. We can communicate instantly with someone across the planet. Sure, it's not even close to perfect yet but we are actually living in a sort of golden age now. If this is tribulation tell God "more, please".
Yes, when Israel was re-established and the dead rose out of their graves to fight for her, we all came near to converting.
most prophecies outlined in the Books of Daniel and Revelation have already come true
Bullshit. Have you even actually read Revelation? There's some pretty bizarre shit in there that if actually happened most likely would have been recorded somewhere throughout the last 2000 years.
According to the Scriptures, life on earth as we know it is about to come to an end - perhaps as soon as between 2017 to 2030.
According to scripture, no man will know the hour or the day. And also according to scripture, Jesus was supposed to return in the lifetimes of his contemporaries.
You mean like Egypt being a barren wasteland for forty years, the Nile River drying up, Tyre being permanently destroyed by King Nebuchadnezzer (yes I probably misspelled it), Jesus returning within the lifetime of those who wrote the Bible, Antiochus* bringing about the end of the world? Those prophecies?
* It's pretty clear the Book of Daniel end times prophecies were about Antiochus. Too bad the later ones (the book was likely written during the middle of his rule, so the later ones hadn't already happened) were flat out wrong. So the end times nuts will take the prophecies about "the reckless one" and apply them to their Book of Revelation tribulation fantasy.
Doing something, and then claiming that it fulfilled a prophecy doesn't really count, when the only record of the prophecy is "I did X , in accordance with the prophecy."
Making pointless prophecy doesn't count. "There will be sand in the desert!" is not a prophecy.
Making a vague prophecy does not count, either. If you can't tell what the prophecy is before the event it predicts, then it wasn't a prophecy.
According to the book of revelations: Rev 6:13 "And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind." Apparently the person that wrote this passage know absolutely nothing about stars. So with authorship like this why should we believe any other "prophecies that are equally absurd?
Let's see how many times the world was supposed to have ended in the last 20 years. There was the Rapture of '94, the Heaven's Gate Hale-Bopp end-of-the-line joyride before the tragic collision with Planet X, the Y2K scare, the Raptures of '11, the end of the Mayan calendar of 2012, and now one predicted for somewhere between 2017 and 2030. You'd think there wouldn't be much of the world left after all of that, but it proves to be fairly enduring.
Carmen, you do realize biblical scholars belief that Revelations is primarily allegorical stuff about Christians remaining faithful in the times of persecution that was happening right then combined with some really bizarre crap.
I would also point out that some Christian beliefs put Jesus' second coming as Jesus in The Acts of Apostles (Thus would indeed be within the lifetimes of contemporaries) and we're currently living in the Golden Millennium (Which is a more figurative length than literal) waiting for the end of time when everyone gets to go to heaven. (Or be judged. Depends on the belief system.)
So even by your other people within Christianity, You're full of it.
"...perhaps as soon as between 2017 to 2030."
It's like everything else that is to do with Bible God, built on hollow promises and empty threats. Proof positive that we can't accept the word of Bible God.
Wow, a book written in Israel would have a lot of Jewish symbolism. Who would've guessed that?
If your interpretation is correct, there shouldn't logically be a two-thousand year gap. This is either the Millennium or the New Earth. Take your side.
I will put forward today a scale of measurement of Biblical prophecy.
The more people believe that Scriptural prophecy has been fulfilled the less they know of the Bible or established history. Those that believe most prophecy has been realized are the full on idiots and those that claim nothing has been realized and much has failed are the Scholars.
There's a reason they're called the fundamentalists and literalists and a reason they're mocked for it by most others.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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