Scientists admit that there were an original man and woman who gave birth to the entire human race. This alone is a hard blow to evolution, yet, I shall proceed with that in mind. Even if this original pair of humans existed but 100 000 years ago, that would require a doubling time of 1 612.51 years! Is this number not shocking? It is completely unrealistic!
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I believe that evolution is merely the thought process of people attempting to convince themselves that there is no God, It is not science. It is not fact....
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WRONG. Scientists don't say that kind of crap at all, because they know a single breeding pair leads to genetic disorders, inbreeding, and species death. They say we can trace back the human race to a handful of individuals, maybe even a single or a few fertile females, at a population bottleneck 100,000 years ago. That's it.
Someone's taking the "Y-chromosome Adam" and "Mitochondrial Eve" too literally. They are simply the most recent male and female human ancestors which had a traceable genetic mutation that ended up propogating to the entire human race. However, they were not a breeding pair. They lived several hundred thousand years apart.
Actually, it was the great Allan C Wilson, a molecular evolutionist, who proposed the "Eve" hypothesis. It's a perfectly logical deduction from the mutational rates of mitochondrial DNA. Evolutionary theory has no difficulty with it. Your doubling time is a fantasy.
riiight...
Doubling time? 1612.51 years? What the fuck are you talking about?
Actually, Y-Chromosome tracing suggests that we decended from about 4,000 individuals. That's about 3,998 too many for your storybook. Sorry.
One of my favorite fundie quotes never made it to the main page. When it was pointed out to this particular fundie that mitochondrial Eve and Y-chromosome Adam lived tens of thousands of years apart, he cited that as proof of Eve's divine origin. Only a being created directly by God could live that long before giving birth to the human race, according to him.
clearly you are inumerate (you cannot understand numbers) doubling time for a population is the ammount of time it takes that population to double, hence the name. now, if there was a pair (the first pair) of 'true humans', it means that the total population of humans took on average 1,612 years to double. its actually a rather slow rate of growth. it was probably much faster at first, slowed down during middle ages and such, and has skyrocketed in the last 2 centuries.
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Hear hear! Well, I'll be a monkey's uncle - I used to be one myself.
Lucan said "Indeed! Chimps never came up with religion"
I don't know, that pooh slinging seems suggest otherwise.
"I believe that evolution is merely the thought process of people attempting to convince themselves that there is no God, It is not science. It is not fact...."
Other comments exposed the nonsense. But about this, the premise is that there's evidence of God, that for some reason like alleged sin justification, people would like to deny. Which is a false premise. For that reason, it is legitimate for science not to wait before God shows up, before observing the natural world and trying to understand how it works. By doing so and refining its methods, to be as honest and accurate as possible (read on the scientific method), its assessment is that we have evolved. Until even more evidence can falsify and better scientific theories explain all the data, it'll remain the scientific consensus.
As others noted, they lied to you about the mitochondrial and Y-chromosomal research, the names Adam and Eve were only borrowed from culture and do not refer to an actual mythological couple in Eden...
“Scientists admit that there were an original man and woman who gave birth to the entire human race.”
“This alone is a hard blow to evolution,”
“yet, I shall proceed with that in mind.”
“Even if this original pair”
“ of humans existed but 100 000 years ago, that would require a doubling time of 1 612.51 years! Is this number not shocking? It is completely unrealistic!”
“It is not science. It is not fact....”
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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