Mike Huckabee & James Robinson #fundie

Mike Huckabee & James Robinson #fundie rawstory.com

Former Fox News host Mike Huckabee said on Thursday that if he was elected president then he would have “God’s blessing” to fight a so-called “secular theocracy” that had been imposed by atheists.

During an appearance on the Christian Life Today program, Huckabee told televangelist James Robinson that he was considering a 2016 presidential bid because the country needed to become a “God-centered nation that understands that our laws do not come from man, they come from God.”

“It’s the natural law of God,” the former Arkansas governor said, adding that he was not calling for a theocracy.

“We have a theocracy right now,” Robinson interrupted. “It’s a secular theocracy.”

“That’s it,” Huckabee agreed. “It’s a humanistic, atheistic, even antagonistic toward Christian faith. And that’s what we need to understand. Our basic, fundamental rights are being robbed from us, taken from us piece by piece.”

At the conclusion of the program, Robinson said that people should pray that whoever was president would “keep God in the center of their focal point.”

“Absolutely,” Huckabee remarked. “And whether it’s me or someone else, and I do ask people to pray. For me, this is not just a political or financial decision, it is a spiritual decision.”

“You know, the only thing worse than not being elected president would be to be elected president without God’s blessing,” he observed. “I can’t think of a worse place in the world to be than in the Oval Office without God’s hand upon you. I’d rather not get near the place.”

“But if that’s a purpose, so be it. And that’s my prayer.”

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old comment by Canadiest

They made religion a bad thing by their actions and so try to pin the tainted title on others.
They made theocracy a bad thing by their history(s) and so try to pin the tainted title on others.
If there ever was a "shining city on the hill" it would only be applicable to the head of a secular state, where individual rights free us from the yolk of religious oppression seen so many times in history.
The Secular system is all that keeps them from being the cruel dictators they were in the past. The church isn't a benevolent helpful peaceful organization today because they wanted to be, the secular world removed your command which forced you to be something more inclusive and benign.

Huckabee's usually not a threat because he actually runs much of his public campaign on the same rhetoric he uses at churchs or above, thereby killing any hope of getting too far.
Unlike others who act all secular and inclusive yet are complete Dominionist operatives like Bachman types.

old comment by Raspberry

I saw it pointed out elsewhere that it's likely that Suckabee damn well knows he doesn't have the remotest chance of getting elected and is simply playing the short con to pump more money into his PAC. PACs have become a slush fund wet dream wherein you can "hire" close associates and in particular family members and funnel loads of cash into their laps. I think at this point members of his family alone have collectively received over $400,000 from it.

Put it this way, you can sit on a show with declining viewership, on a "news" network with declining viewership, earning (I don't know how much he earns at Faux but a well funded PAC accumulates millions to shuffle around) OR, you can ditch the program and start doing the interview and speech circuit warble-garbling all the talking points that will appeal to the folks most likely to pump money to you personally, which is the furthest right and most religious of the Religious Right Wing. Let them think you might run, pander a lot, and donations flow in from desperately deluded folks trying to convince you to run. Go Team Huckabee. Here's how Faux reported it.

[FAUX]

Fox News host and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee announced Saturday that he is leaving the network after six and a half years as the host of “Huckabee,” and will make a decision on a possible 2016 presidential run by late spring.

In the Saturday edition of “Huckabee,” the former governor expressed thanks for what he called “the ride of a lifetime.”

"I have never had so much fun in my life,” Huckabee said. "But I also realize that God hasn't put me on earth just to have a good time or to make a good living, but rather has put me on earth to try to make a good life.”

Huckabee said that he would not rule out running for president in 2016, and that it is not possible for him to openly determine political and financial support to justify a race while doing the show.

“The honorable thing to do at this point is to end my tenure here at Fox. As much as I have loved doing the show, I cannot bring myself to rule out another presidential run,” Huckabee said. “So as we say in television, stay tuned."

[/FAUX]

This guy is hitting his last window of opportunity to heavily cash in by pretending there's a chance he will run and pandering to the worst of us. The only chance of him actually running (early in the game before bowing out) would not be because he thinks he can win, but does think that doing so would add a big whack to his PAC and there's more potential for those delicious dollars. Remember, he "has until spring" to see how his PAC does, it's all bean counting. Depressingly, I have self righteous, hypocritical, narcissistic, greedy scumbags exactly like this in my own family.

(edit: The upside here is we have one more prominent asshole dishing out heaps of the very attitude and rhetoric that is driving away the younger generations. Let him have his PAC, the damage his mouth is doing to the RRW cause is worth every penny IMHO.)

old comment by dionysus

Former Fox News host Mike Huckabee said on Thursday that if he was elected president then he would have “God’s blessing”

What happened the last few times? Did God fall asleep? And if you lose again (and you will, in the primary no less) does that mean God is impotent and the country can start ignoring him?

to fight a so-called “secular theocracy” that had been imposed by atheists

What atheists? I can count on one hand the number of atheists in Congress and on no hands the number of atheists that have ever been in the White House. Christians have dominated this country for centuries. Just because not all Christians want the US to be a Christian Saudi Arabia doesn't mean they're atheists. In fact, a number of ones I've talked to believe that forced faith is hollow and meaningless and it stops discussion. That, in turn, makes it a bit difficult to convert people. But you don't really care about saving souls do you? You just want the power.

the country needed to become a “God-centered nation that understands that our laws do not come from man, they come from God.”

So how do you intend to abolish the Constitution? Because you'd need to do that in order to accomplish your goals.

“That’s it,” Huckabee agreed. “It’s a humanistic, atheistic, even antagonistic toward Christian faith.

Humanism came out of Christianity, you absolute fuckwad. I know it's hard to understand but bigoted, ultra-conservative Christianity isn't the only kind of Christianity in the world. Believe it or not, there are sects that love gays and atheists and the majority of Christians WANT a secular state. Mainly because they don't want YOU telling them how to worship God. In fact, that was the whole reason we put a separation of church and state in the Constitution in the first place.

old comment by NoncompliAut

...our laws do not come from man, they come from God

Are you calling my congressperson God? That kind of breaks a fair number of commandments, doesn't it? Also, apparently God is a woman and votes Democrat.

Alternately, if you propose that legislation comes from God and not from Congress, why does your god draft legislation that He's not willing to allow to pass, why does He draft legislation that does pass that you call immoral, and why doesn't he close down the fucking Judge Rotenberg Center* already! If I have to convert to Christianity to get someone to pass a law that closes that place, I will. If I'm going to be a good utilitarian, I had better be willing to do stuff I find distasteful, like praying to a god I don't believe in, to accomplish moral goals.

*Tortures disabled kids, not related to religion/racism/conspiracy theories, located in Massachusetts, kind of my pet issue.

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@Anton

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=106021&Page=2#1757053

"homosexuality is a mistake. It is of no use biologically, psychologically or socially, and it has serious liabilities that are a cost to society. It's utterly superfluous, a fact incessantly compensated for by gays with their paranoid attention-getting, their abusive narcissism, their gaudy and shallow "pride" marches, their endless self-justification, their chronic delusion that being gay is an asset."

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/mike-huckabee-im-not-homophobic-just-applying-biblical-rules-gay-rights

“The way that we’ve allowed words like tolerance, bigotry what has happened to us, we allow ourselves to be called [...] bigoted, we’re not,”

---Mike Huckabee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1O1dvN8lag

“I almost wish that there would be, like, a simultaneous telecast, and all Americans would be forcedforced at gunpoint no lessto listen to every David Barton message, and I think our country would be better for it. I wish it’d happen.”

---Mike Huckabee

http://viral.buzz/graphic-images-isis-finds-man-guilty-of-homosexuality-executes-by-hurling-off-roof/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-fighters-throw-man-roof-4784798

Because perish the thought that you would be a supporter of ISIS, eh Anton?

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@Anton

"homosexuality is a mistake. It is of no use biologically, psychologically or socially, and it has serious liabilities that are a cost to society. It's utterly superfluous, a fact incessantly compensated for by gays with their paranoid attention-getting, their abusive narcissism, their gaudy and shallow "pride" marches, their endless self-justification, their chronic delusion that being gay is an asset."

http://www.fstdt.net/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=104891&Page=2#1734832

@Anton

"The anecdote has the ring of truth. It expresses a commonplace, justifiable disgust at homosexual practices. It portrays homosexuals as a threat to children which some are, as evidenced by the scandals caused by homosexual priests and the persistent pederastic interest in boys in gay sub-culture."

"It must be awful, being a homophobe. Having to spend all that time obsessing about what gay people might be doing with their genitals. Seeing it in your mind, over and over again, in high-definition close-up. Bravely you masturbate, to make the pictures go away, but to no avail. They're seared onto your mental membranes. Every time you close your eyes, an imaginary gay man's imaginary penis rises from the murk, bowing ominously in your direction, sensing your discomfort. Laughing. Mocking. Possibly even winking. How dare they, this man and his penis? How dare they do this to you?

Obviously you can't fight the big gay penis in your head. It has no physical form, so you can't get a grip on it, much as you'd like to. You'd love to grab it and throttle it until it splutters its last. That might bring you closure. But no. So you do the next best thing. You condemn homosexuals in the real world. Maybe if they could just stop all this "being gay" business for 10 minutes, you'd get some respite from that scary headcock. It might shrivel away completely, leaving nothing behind. Except maybe a nice bit of bum.

No, dammit! Forget I said that! No bum either!"

---Charlie Brooker

You are displaying a cognitive trait typical of Paranoid Personality Disorder. More than one instance means everything.

old comment by creativerealms

@ Anton

It's amazing how much power people people claim Atheists have when you could probably count the number of Atheist Politicians on one hand. Our Government still gives lots of privileges to the Christian Right who are still the most powerful group in the country. This whole "oppressed Majority" crap is just a way for Christians to try to get even more power rather then accepting that times are changing for the better.

Secular is not Atheism and we are a nation where we can worship or not worship what we want. It has been that since the beginning. Some Christians think they are being persecuted and their rights are being taken away when really it's only privileges, ones that they should never have had to begin with that are being taken away.

All is happening is secular groups are fighting the slow creep of Christian Theocracy that had been rooted in the fifties. Many of those secular groups are filled with many more religious people then Atheists.