I saw it[Brave], and liked a lot about it, but I'm not sure that I would take a child to see it - at least without discussing it. Parts of its message are really anti-biblical. The animation is fantastic, and Merida's beautiful red hair is mesmerizing! I also liked the theme of the importance of the famiy bond and forgiveness - particularly between mother-daughter.
But it was FILLED with spiritism and darkish magic, to the point that I felt it was preachy. It's set in pre-Christian era Scotland - with all their druid type culture. Merida learns to follow little blue lights/apparitions called wisps that lead her to her fate, where she meets a witch in a magical stonehenge-reminiscent setting (which her horse wouldn't enter into). The witch then casts a spell that is the catalyst for Merida's journey in the movie. It's taught that you should trust the wisps to lead you to a safe place and you can trust them. While I like a good fairy tale, these apparitions seemed strangely occultic, moreso than your typical "fairy godmother" or other such fairy-tale characteristics.
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Um, it's pre-Christian Scotland. What did you THINK they were going to be talking about?
Jeez, these people have almost no concept of any time before Christianty bulldozed its way into the wider world.
"It's taught that you should trust the wisps to lead you to a safe place and you can trust them."
It sounds like your mythology, which is filled with spiritism and stupidish thinking.
I wanted to see this movie, and now i want to see it even more.
Honestly pistache, the only thing christianity didnt steal from pre-christian cultures, is the notion that all people are worthless scum that deserve to be tortured forever.
"darkish"? Dark ... ish? Isn't that just a little stupidesque?
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So anything that appears to validate some other superstitious fiction is heretical? Is that how it works? Do you have the same trouble distinguishing Pinocchio and the Blue Fairy from reality?
Oh come on. Fairy tales (at least the modern versions) are all like this. Honestly, at this point I'm surprised he doesn't care that the movie has a strong female lead character. I would think a fundie would be siding with Elinor up until the spoilers happen.
Also... why, in the name of all that is good and holy, did the Ruptured Retard feel it necessary to describe the hair of an adolescent, animated fictional character? What does that tell us about him?
"Also... why, in the name of all that is good and holy, did the Ruptured Retard feel it necessary to describe the hair of an adolescent, animated fictional character?"
The CGI on her hair is really, really good. It's just an aesthetic appreciation, I wouldn't read anything sinister into it.
Also... why, in the name of all that is good and holy, did the Ruptured Retard feel it necessary to describe the hair of an adolescent, animated fictional character? What does that tell us about him?
Human hair is very difficult to do properly in computer animation. That's why it took Pixar so long to do their first film with primarily human leads (The Incredibles ) and even then, the hair was often kinda Ken doll-looking.
In Brave, though, Merida has absolutely gorgeous, flowing, curly red hair. It would be impressive work from the stylists if it were a live-action movie, and for a CGI movie, it's jaw-dropping.
Oh, it's also a darn good movie.
While I like a good fairy tale,
Well, fairy tales, yeah, but not necessarily good ones, you bet your bippy, Christer.
@ Brendan Rizzo
why, in the name of all that is good and holy, did the Ruptured Retard feel it necessary to describe the hair of an adolescent, animated fictional character? What does that tell us about him?
He likes redheads. So do I. I'm still in lust for Jessica Rabbit.
I plead insanity.
Insanity?
That's right, insanity. I'm just crazy about that stuff.
I never cease to be amazed by how hard it is for you folks to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Every - and I mean literally every movie, book, play, whatever that has any sort of non-Christian theme is taken by you as a sign of indoctrination. To the rest of us, it's perfectly obvious that it's just fiction, and a part of storytelling. We realize that there's no wizardry school in England teaching children to cast spells, or attempts to get video gamers to worship goddesses, or movie makers trying to make small children follow druidic beliefs - they're just stories.
Why can't you accept that?
to anyone who cares, his name is the french spelling of "pistachio" [captain obvious], describing his iq, perhaps?
I have a theory as to why fundies have difficulty distinguishing fantasy from reality. It is not a case of causation, but of correlation; if you can't tell fantasy from reality, you'll often become a fundie.
Considering it comes from Rapture Ready , I don't think this is a big deal.
Basically, it boils down to "I liked the movie, but some of the themes in it bothered me." Which is an experience a lot of people could share. I think a lot of people could find some movie that would provoke such a response in them.
@ tmarcl:
I never cease to be amazed by how hard it is for you folks to tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Every - and I mean literally every movie, book, play, whatever that has any sort of non-Christian theme is taken by you as a sign of indoctrination.
Well, the fundies have all been indoctrinated by a piece of ridiculous fiction, so they fear that any piece of fiction has that power.
Gotta be a troll, Pistache, Pist Ache, Piss Take, I mean c'mon!
This is what I choose to believe for the sake of my poor old irony meter...
Um, the various magical things in the movie (the spell, and arguably the wisps) actually wind up causing quite a bit of trouble for the characters. It seemed to be more of a cautionary tale in that regard.
Confused?
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