If man has been on the Earth for over a million years or whatever Evolution says...IF, as evolutionists claim, the earth is billions of years old, and mankind has evolved from a lower and simpler form of life, then why has mankind gone from writing upon stones to laser printers in just the past 3,500 years? When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, they were written upon stone. It is abundantly clear that the Egyptians carved messages into stone (hieroglyphics). So why is it that mankind has only discovered better inventions in the past few thousand years? If mankind had evolved, as evolutionists claim, then why didn't man discover ink a million years ago? Think about it. This is an astonishing thought--There were NO planes, cars, computers, refrigerators, electricity, lights, gas, powered-equipment, telephones, recording devices, CD players, MP3 players, electric razors, televisions, record players, movie cameras, or a million other modern technological inventions--just a mere 170 years ago. Civilization has advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years. So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?
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When God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, why weren't they engraved on platinum or some similarly indestructible substance if they were so important? Isn't it an odd coincidence that God never seems to have more advanced technology than the people who wrote the Bible?
So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?
Why not 5,000 years ago then? Even fundies admit the earth is at least that old.
Because humans had to develop technologies that allowed them to devote time and energy to thinks other than getting enough food to survive on before they could work on other stuff.
And a lot of those technologies build on each other, so you can't have tvs or ipods until you figure out electricity. But the less technical precursors, instruments and theater and the idea of making a record of something, those are all ideas that are thousands of years old.
Face it, god gave us intelligence, and after millenia of farting around, we got around to using it.
Many of us, anyway.
Well, it's hard to invent those kind of things without an extensive knowledge of science and mathematics and I imagine that it is hard to keep your mind on developing an understanding of thermodynamics when you are starving to death and being chased by something that thinks you are delicious.
After a few hundred-thousand years, once that little issue was resolved and we had some more time on our hands, we had a chance to put our minds to answering the great questions of life, and we totally blew it and came up with religion.
So I think that, between looking for food, being something elses food, and being told that any inquiry into the natural world was "sinful", it is amazing that we discovered anything by now. Its a good thing that so many people were willing to reject the religion imposed upon them to investigate the world and come up with solutions that have enriched all of our lives, for example, the computer and internet that you have just used to propagate your complete lack of understanding of human development. Sometimes I wish that people like you were still getting eaten...
Sorry, but we were still evolving biologically at that point, so that we could live long enough to invent better things. If Newton (84) or Einstein (76) had only lived to be 25 - 30 yrs old, like our ancient ancestors typically did, well...you get the picture. Longer lifespans have enabled a lot of our recent progress.
This argument is no more valid than one that asks why, if the earth is only 6,000 y/o, why has civilization advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years.
"So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?"
For the same reason that no event occurs until it occurs: the events leading up to those discoveries hadn't occurred yet.
Pick any arbitrary event, and ask why it didn't occur at another arbitrary time, and it makes just as much sense.
Cool. It's fun to finally learn about the industrial revolution, isn't it?
History was always my favourite subject. Probably not yours so much though, huh?
BTW, the Egyptians wrote on Papyrus paper, so...yeah. You might want to re-take that class.
If it was true that humans have been around longer than 5 thousand years, it must mean there was something preventing people from thinking scientifically. Something that would replace the truth with made up stories. Even with these stories, you couldn't get everyone to believe in them without force. Perhaps crusades or inquisitions? This is purely speculation, mind you. No one in their right mind would make up stories and then force people to believe in them for millennia.
Man, did you forget that, in between, they wrote in clay and in papirus and, for the students particularly, even in a kind of soft board made with hay?. Did you know that, in between, people have invented paper, from rests of rags to celulose(S. XVIII), that the Greeks used skins of animals and that typing in a maschine or a comp is as available as the twenties and fifties?. And that goes with writting, for the general scope of progression. Do you know that the prototype for the plane was invented in the last quarter of the nineteenth century?, that technicques to develop electricity were invented in the eighteenth century?, do you know that Romans knew how to build pipes, water-supplies and other modern services we enjoy today?, do you know that the Celts invented the central heater?. Now, tell me, are you a troll?, or are you really trying to convince infidels this way?
"If I have seen farther than others, it is because I was standing on the shoulders of giants."
We are witnessing such rapid development of new ideas because world is getting smaller. No longer is each civilization forced to reinvent wheel merely because they have no way of getting into contact with people who have done that.
It's pretty simple: before the advent of science, things were found purely through random trial and error. With the advent of science and mathematics, one can systematize a little the process of trial and error. Then, the more you discover, the more you can discover. It grows exponentially, provided there are no setbacks like the Dark Ages.
What, exactly, is he trying to argue here?
Papabear put it nicely.
Fundie or troll, who can tell these days?
Wow, so close and yet so far. This guy doesn't have the slightest clue what the ToE actually says, does he? Does he really think that Neanderthal Man should have discovered the laser printer...? Damn lazy Neanderthals!
From Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri (Civ clone):
Technological advance is an inherently iterative process.
One does not simply take sand from the beach and produce a Dataprobe.
We use crude tools to fashion better tools, and then our better
tools to fashion more precise tools, and so on. Each minor refinement
is a step in the process, and all of the steps must be taken.
-- Chairman Sheng-ji Yang,
"Looking God in the Eye"
" Civilization has advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years. So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?"
Because fundies were in control until 170 years ago.
"So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?"
Humans weren't even around 100,000,000 years ago, or even close to evolving. Way to demonstrate your knowledge of basic science.
So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?"
because mankind wasn't there.
100,000,000 years ago, man didn't exist and his ancestors were just trying to stay out of the way of all the dinosaurs stomping around.
100,000 years ago, man was carving stone tools and making cave paintings, already beginning a civilization. Of course, there wasn't much communication between different scattered groups of hunter-gatherers, plus saber-toothed cats were kind of a problem...
There were deez aliens, see? And dey came to visit us about 10000 years ago, see? And as a hostess gift, dey gave us da smartz.
Well, some of us.
P.S. I'm just kidding.
/Civilization has advanced from utter primitiveness to incredible mind-boggling achievements in just a little over 100 years. So why didn't mankind discover any of this stuff 100,000,000 years ago, or 100,000 years ago for that matter?/
Because there was a little thing 500 years ago called the Renaissance (spelling?), in which people actually started finding things out for themselves instead of blindly following what other people told them to do.
This is an astonishing thought...
Well, there's something astonishing here, but thought has very little to do with it.
Yeah, dammit! Why can't babies walk as soon as they're born? Why can't chicks fly as soon as they're hatched? Why can't I perform complex invasive brain surgery the minute I set foot in a medical college?
BECAUSE SHIT TAKES TIME, FUCKNUGGET!!!
Ancient man did have ink, but paper was a bitch to make, so it was used on cave walls and as warpaint. The Egyptians carved on stone because it lasted forever; they had paper, too, and nearly universal literacy.
So, to reiterate, fuck you.
I'm surprised kent hovind doesn't say "technological evolution" is stupid and blame it on Darwin too. He seems to think all the other kinds of evolution (cosmic, chemical, stellar, organic, micro, macro) are stupid, and all of those are of course Darwin's fault.
Yeah, why weren't people shopping using their iPhones at amazon.com 5,000 years ago? Why didn't the Donner party just take I-80 back to civilization? Why didn't Columbus take the United flight across the Atlantic? Why, I say?
Stimpy, you are an eeeeeediot!
I think this is appropriate:
http://youtu.be/rGKRtfChY58
Confused?
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