No, you schmuck, there was never gay marriage in Europe - not in pagan times, not in Catholic times, not in the Enlightenment, not in the Renaissance, not in the Orthodox East, not when the Turks and Mongol hordes invaded, not in atheistic USSR or East Germany - never, ever, ever because IT IS A HUMAN UNIVERSAL THAT MARRIAGE EXISTS TO CREATE AND RAISE CHILDREN.
And you don't have your history right. The Dark Ages were after the Fall of Rome when initially Germanic pagan tribes expanded. The Middle Ages had plenty of technological advancement and a consolidation of Papal authority.
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So, my marriage doesn't exist? Ought hubby and me to divorce and find partners with which we can procreate? (The doctors couldn't find a reason why we're childless, so it might be genetic incompatibility.) Even though none of us is particularly eager to have children?
It's also a HUMAN UNIVERSAL that sometimes one or both parents die or are otherwise unable to care for their kids. To have an aunt or an uncle who's gay at that point is highly beneficial for the survival of the offspring.
If I'm not mistaken marriage was initially about transferring ownership of a woman from her father to her husband.
Also, you lie. There have been instances of gay marriage in history.
I was hopeful, with the Catholics acceptance of much of science that they would stop lying to their flocks about history too.
But over the years on this site I've seen some Europeans thinking the church was the cause of the Enlightenment. Being that this is recent, well documented history this delusion should be extinct. It has to be current lies from the church keeping this denial alive.
Mayasmom
Marriage was between a man and a woman because 1) homophobia and 2) to create children. If there were no children, the woman was blamed and the man could get a divorce to try again. There are plenty of famous people who had same sex lovers or might have been gay. Often while married.
As for the papal consoliation, it was back and forth. It depended on the country and the time period how much the pope could threaten to excommunicate the monarch and the monarch would obey.
No, you schmuck, there was never gay marriage in Europe - not in pagan times
Nero married his (male) slave. Gay marriage wasn't totally unknown to the Romans.
never, ever, ever because IT IS A HUMAN UNIVERSAL THAT MARRIAGE EXISTS TO CREATE AND RAISE CHILDREN
And I don't see why we can't change that definition.
And you don't have your history right
Actually, you don't.
The Dark Ages were after the Fall of Rome when initially Germanic pagan tribes expanded. The Middle Ages had plenty of technological advancement and a consolidation of Papal authority.
Most of those Germanic tribes were incidentally Christian, just the wrong flavour of Christian (Arian). Both Dark Ages and Middle Ages had technologically advancement in Europe, see Charlemagne.
@really
kinda the point of this site and we know some hear about these posts and come here and others become informed.
Also many have been banned from those sites for the simple act of disagreement, much is removed by moderators of said sites, and to escape from the sheer tedium of response posts of "Amen" or off topic scriptural quotes copy and pasted in. That last one has destroyed the flow of many threads here.
And it's fun, Having these discussions with these type of people is too numbing and non productive, reading answers, advice and many a snark is so much more entertaining.
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So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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