Intro - (Lisa) I have had many visions or what I call 'trips' to Heaven, sometimes I see my mansion and what is around it, a couple of times I have seen my sister who died when I was 8 and spent time with her, I have been in the throne room a few times in front of Jesus (at His feet weeping) God was a brilliant light behind Him which I could not even look at, I have seen the crystal sea and a space needle (like in Seattle) in the water, it over looks the city area if you go up in it, and shops along the water...God has shown me some of how things work and one example would be there is an inner area, which only certain people can go into (that is where the throne of God is) then an outlying area where some people will be. There are MILLIONS of babies, children there - aborted, miscarried and deaths. If you want more kids you may (adopt for lack of better words) them. I have 3 of my own children but God showed me I will have many more that I will raise.
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"There are MILLIONS of babies, children there - aborted, miscarried and deaths."
I hope you didn't step on any zygotes while you were walking around up there.
I have been in the throne room a few times in front of Jesus
That must have been pretty embarrassing for both you and Jesus. Next time ask him to knock and wait for you to be done. And light a match to get rid of the smell.
Little bit more work, claim you were raised by Atheists or Satanists or Witches or Lesbians (or the obvious combinations of all those).
Introduce some major disaster on your life, write the whole mess up, print up t-shirts with "Lisa went to Heaven and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt AND REVELATION!" and begin your profitable church circuit tour.
hey, don't harsh her mellow, folks. she's hit the nail on the head of what "heaven" is all about --- wish fulfillment; the whole concept of "heaven" being, basically, "imagine the best sort of existence you can come up with".
which is why poor medieval peasants imagined riches so plentiful the streets were paved with gold. why gilded-age factory workers imagined green pastoralism. why people from war-torn regions imagine everlasting peace. don't go calling her favorite kind of fantasy silly, that's just cruel. what she needs is some way to grow up and attain a decent existence in real life; ragging on her make-believe isn't likely to help with that.
Oh Lisa, PLEASE tell your vision to the adoption agency, and to Child Protective Services, and to your neighborhood shrink. If you are really, really lucky, they MAY let you keep the three you've got, but they will be certain to supervise.
What does God need with a Space Needle? Why does heaven look so much like something a human would come up with? If God operates on different rules than humans do, and presumably ascended individuals would as well, why does the architecture reflect human needs and physiology? Why have architecture? I thought that heaven was described as becoming part of a hive consciousness that eternally worshiped God, or is that too esoteric for you to handle? Why the fuck do I know more about your religion than you do?
" I have seen the crystal sea and a space needle (like in Seattle) in the water, it over looks the city area if you go up in it, and shops along the water..."
So Heaven is like Cleethorpes? This doesn't sound appealing to me. I hope that the shops stock items that are of more use and value than the typical tacky gift shops you find in such places.
How narcissistic, to believe that you'd be allowed into the area with the throne of God. If such an entity exists, and has the enemies he would have (SATAN being a prime example), an act like that would be illogical.
You have to raise kids in Heaven? Rise them into what, exactly? Do they have to go to school? Go through puberty? Does this mean people still age in Heaven? Or do these babies just stay as they were, meaning you're changing nappies for all eternity?
Where does one start?
Hm. Shops in heaven??? I know I dont want to WORK as a definition of heaven. And all those aborted babies.....Sounds like the best way to make sure somebody goes to heaven is to abort them. So, abortion is the sure way to heaven. Otherwise, they might be atheist and go to hell. So why are they against abortion????
ps. this person needs serious help.
someone did a calculation saying that if you counted all the abortions (naturally and intentionally) miscarriages, child mortality rate etc etc as all going to heaven, then heaven would only be populated by about 2% actual christians who lived lives and made choices etc. everyone else are babies who never have and never can have free will. kinda creepy heaven place.
The inner area = people who go shopping
The outlying area = people who work in shops
Boycott the apartheid regime of Heaven!
So, you have seen what you wanted to see, and you think they are premonitions?
Did Jesus look like a "swarthy" Middle Eastern, or like a blond, blue-eyed Swede? If it's the former, you might have some credibility, if it's the latter, you're full of it.
You will raise kids in Heaven? Do you really get older in Heaven?
The aborted and miscarried ones must be a gruesome sight; a bunch of inch-long, vaguely human-shaped blobs. Or do they continue to grow in Heaven? What about those who are miscarried or aborted due to lethal deformities; extra arms or legs or heads, hearts outside the body, no heart at all, little or no brain, etc? What about my miscarriage, where the embryo just regressed into nothingness, so that the fetal sack was empty in week 11.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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