You can't tamper with Gods plan, if it is your time to die the chemo, won't work and you will still die. If it is Gods will, the chemo will have a positive effect. Bottom line. Yes, he gave doctors and researchers the knowledge to discover cures for us. He would want you to follow your doctors advice. God the fathers plan for his only begotten son has already been fulfilled, so no point in trying to figure out the what ifs.
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"Yes, he gave doctors and researchers the knowledge to discover cures for us. "
Too bad he half-assed it, since there are still so many diseases that can't be cured at the moment.
I wonder what Occam's Razor has to say about that...
So God's will can only work with the chemo? Otherwise there'd be no point in having chemo would there?
If God wanted you dead it wouldn't work, and if he wanted you alive it wouldn't be necessary, right? I mean a God that can only save you if you have the best palliative care medical science can provide at the same time doesn't really qualify as 'omnipotent'.
More like 'homoeopathic'.
It must have been really convenient for god that every last one of his appointed death times for people coincided exactly with the way they would have died purely as a result of deterministic reality. That means he doesn't have to do anything at all, just let reality take its course and it'll all keep to his plan. Why, he wouldn't even have to be there, he could just go fishing or something and never interfere with reality at all!
Oh, but he really is there, and he really does exist, and if someone ever is about to die of a deterministic fate that he didn't plan for them, he'll definitely step in and save them. Really.
I guess that you don't believe in intecessionary prayer.
I mean, what's the use of "god's plan" whan any schmuck with a $2 prayer book can change it?
Thanks for reminding me of that Carlin classic.
So, explain to me why, if God just zapped the knowledge into research scientists' heads, they had to, y'know, do RESEARCH, and test these theories, and actually WORK at it?
Because, realistically, all you're doing is discrediting the people who worked to give you these medical advances. And, at the same time, deciding that stem cell research is bad.
These guys really have utterly no respect for their fellow human beings, do they?
Ehh, doesn't sound so fundy to me; a lot of mainstream Christians seem to think the same.
Of course, it does signify that "whatever will be will be" so one may as well live one's life as if there is no god interacting with humanity and I concur.
SO, there's no point in even doing the chemo. If I'm already meant to die, it won't work, and life will suck ass while I'm on it. If I'm not going to die, then the chemo is pointless as well.
Funnyguts
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2008-Jul-16 01:53 PM
@FundieBasher: And that's what causes people to take their sick children to church instead of a hospital.
And that's what causes sick people to take their sick^H^H^H^H children to church instead of a hospital.
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You can't tamper with Gods plan, if it is your time to die the chemo, won't work and you will still die. If it is Gods will, the chemo will have a positive effect.
My cousin, Christine, died of brain cancer and it was a horrible thing to see. My aunt Diane fought off cancer twice and lost the fight the third time it came.
brenda, your advice is worth than useless. Gawd didn't "give" medical researchers squat; they had to work damn hard for their results. And Gawd's plan for his only son was to execute him in a particularly gruesome fashion, so I'd steer clear of the bastard if I were in chemo.
Wow, aren't you just a ray of merry sunshine! Tell me, do you tell suicidal people to jump, because if it's there time, it's their time?
Although I will give her a point for telling the person to go to the doctor. Even though that's against the specific rules in the bible.
You can't tamper with God's plan.
From what I've seen, God couldn't plan a children's party at Chuckie Cheez.
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