Lets face it Atheism is bankrupt so they have to indoctrinate young children.
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Oh that's correct. We force children to attend weekly coercion supplemented with social pressure from the community, with threats of hellfire and promises of reward. Yes that's exactly what "we" do.
Nevermind the fact that everyone is born without belief.
Face it, religion and theism are learned behaviors.
Wait...what?
Big Jilm said everything better than I could. The "default state" isn't Christianity, fundtards.
EDIT: Actually, with a username like that, I'm *really* hoping this is a Poe.
Young children don't know anything about religion. They get indoctrinated into religion by their parents. Most atheists come to it later in life, when, like Santa and the Tooth Fairy, the indoctrination stops making sense any more.
I've only been an Atheist for a couple of years, so forgive me.
When do we 'newbies' get the "Atheist Bible" (TM) and the doctrine?
Yes, that's it. I teach Beginning Atheistic Theory for 5-7 year olds each week at Atheism Indoctrination. The kids are so receptive to learning about the truth, and we play all kinds of fun games like "Dawkins Tag" where if you quote from The God Delusion you can't get tagged, and "Pin the Target on the Fundie", which is basically Pin the Tail on the Donkey.
Yes, we are TOTALLY indoctrinating kids.
GodwithUS, stop sucking your fantasy figures imaginary dick and start living in the real world, you moron!
If there is anyone indoctrinating children, it's nutcases like you with their crazy Sunday school bullshit.
First of all, atheism should not be capitalized. system , it has no leaders or followers, no agenda, no rules, no congregation that have any assets, so it can't get bankrupt.
I'd like to see the whole Christian religion try to not indoctrinate any children ever again, and see how far that gets you. The only time you have a chance at indoctrinating is with kids. Educating works throughout life.
Maybe you'll end up with less people, but they will all be like VenomFangX, who was raiaed an "atheist" but is now a Christian.
Atheists don't need to indoctrinate young children, since children are already atheists from the moment they are able to think. Young children do ask plenty of questions though, and atheists can attempt to answer them. Is that what you mean?
Shiny, shiny mirror
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Further comments from that thread:
"Wouldn't be brilliant if one of those children became a Christian at this camp. With God this is possible. That would really annoy Dawkins a lot.
"You have a great point, what child wouldn't want to become a Christian after experiencing a summer of nothing but empty, hopeless thoughts. Despair can bring people to Christ, the Gospel has several recordings of it." (GodWithUS)
Lets face it, Right-wing Fundy Christianity is bankrupt so they have to indoctrinate young children.
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And the documentary "Jesus Camp" proves that fact so terrifyingly.
So where are the atheist sunday schools? Where to atheist take these kids to be indoctrinated? Name a single prominant atheist, hell any atheist, that goes around indoctrinating kids? How would they coerce kids anyway? Christianity use the carrot (Heaven) and the stick (Hell) method, but atheism has neither carrot nor stick.
There are a lot of people leaving the church and becoming atheists and if you'd bother to ask them why then you'd find out it wasn't atheist "indoctrination" but the shortcomings of your own religion instead.
As one who was indoctrinated into Christianity from birth and who finally broke free of the delusion 30 years later, I can say that you, sir, are full of shit. If anything is so bankrupt, it's Christianity. Let's face it, if Christians didn't brainwash their kids from birth, there would be no Christians.
I was baptized Roman Catholic at 2 weeks old (that's young!) so that I was "protected" in case of death. I guess they felt every newborn was Damien from The Omen.
Get on the F##king Crazy Train with Sarah from the above post.
No, you guys, children are born believing in God. This is why they are so much better at sensing his presence and having faith in Jesus. It is to deny his existence that they are taught, not the other way around.
...*barf*
What a shiny shiny mirror you have!
My parents were both atheists, they never said a word to me about it until I asked them about religion at about age 9, and even then it was just "no we don't believe in god" and they explained atheism and agnosticism to me, and they let me go to church and sunday school a few times when I was 6 or 7 (and gave me the option to keep going as long as I wanted, but I got bored of it after a little while).
I don't call that indoctrination. I was always encouraged to make my own decisions about religion, and when I finally declared myself atheist at age 13 it was after an honest attempt to find a religion that made sense to me, which was encouraged by my family.
The thing with Jesus Camp was...those were good kids from good families, who just wanted to live a moral life. It was Becky Fischer and pinball Ted Haggard, in short, the leaders, who were bad Christians, more concerned with their personal advancement than their spiritual advancement. Watch the documentary, as Fischer constantly reasserts herself as the center of attention even when the kids are productively building their faith.
And Haggard...I hope he was cranked out during his appearance because if he's that much of a nutjob normally...
Irony overdose. Explosion soon. /irony meter
I wonder... If you take two middle-of-nowhere islands, one 100% atheists and other 100% christians and start experiment from there, what idea is sooner going to show up in those populations?
Damn, ixolite said it first.
But yeah, this is the epitome of irony...
Yeah, it is so much easier to pick out the smart ones when they are young. The smart ones dont have imaginary friends, and they figure out santa claus isnt real pretty quick. . We leave the stupid ones alone to become adults. We dont bother trying to convince them that their imaginary friend isnt real. You cant fix stupid.
@moose: Wrong, studies show that kids with imaginary friends early on are more intelligent and/or sociable. Kids smart enough to invent fully formed imaginary friends and hold conversations with them are ahead of the curve and an imaginary friend helps young kids to understand an alternative point of view.
However that's meant to stop around the time santa claus and the tooth fairy stops.
Regarding the original post: lol!
Surely that should be, "Let's face it religions would go bankrupt if they didn't indoctrinate young children."
God forbid they ever run out of sheep to shear.
"Lets face it Atheism is bankrupt"
Last time I heard, after his book "The God Delusion" becoming a bestseller, his next tome "The Greatest Show on Earth: The Evidence for Evolution" sold very well too. I very much doubt Richard Dawkins is on his uppers right now.
As for Becky Fischer...? Post-"Jesus Camp", she's now a nobody. Her 'Kids on Fire School of Ministry' no longer exists. And as for Ted Faggard who appeared in said documentary film, well... the rest is history.
Q: What's the difference between Ted Faggard and a pigeon?
A: At least the pigeon can leave a deposit on a Mercedes-Benz.
Reaches for new irony meter after sweeping away charred and twisted remains of old one....
Young children are the very vine on which religion grows and survives. Atheists, on the other hand, are left to try and undo at least some of the damage.
If irony were a source of energy, just this quote from Ruptured Retards alone would not just make nuclear, but Fusion, nay, Antimatter obsolete.
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