Australia was founded by convicts and criminals who came from British islands. It was one of the reasons to, relatively easily, promote such practice in this country where majority of population still consists of compassionless Anglo-Saxons with criminal genes who do not hesitate to kill others.
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I'm sorry whaaaat?
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph-T/cri_mur_percap
The murder rate in the US per capita is three times that, and with 15 times the population that's nearly 50 times as many murders.
Gee and the UK's at 14 murders per million people as opposed to Australia's 15. I guess they didn't get them all.
The problem with the 'compassionless gene' is the enitre human race seems to have it - guess we haven't evolved that far after all
Time for a history lesson, methinks. Many of the "criminals" transported to Australia had been convicted of petty crimes (the classic example being the theft of a loaf of bread to feed one's hungry family). Furthermore, from early in the nation's history, convicts were vastly outnumbered by free settlers, so it is unlikely that you'd be able to identify this "criminal gene" you speak of in the contemporary Australian populace.
Anyway, on to your point, which refers to the Northern Territory's brief legalisation of euthanasia before the law was overturned by the Federal Government. While the NT isn't always the most enlightened of jurisdictions, it at least recognised that "compassion" is not demonstrated by ensuring that patients suffer for as long as possible.
Criminal genes?!? The "inheritance" theory of criminal conduct has been disproved for about a hundred years! Pretty odd to see it being espoused in the 21st century on the World Wide Web.
And Ionakana, what you say about the aims of legalizing euthanasia makes sense to me. It is a thorny issue (for good reasons), but it is well worth addressing.
~David D.G.
the poor and the Irish, mostly.
I've got seven convict ancestors, myself. They were transported for heinous crimes. One tried to sell her grandmother's handkerchief and was told that it was stolen goods. Another, the judge just didn't like his face.
But, just to be a pedant, the convicts were only sent there. It was the aristocracy who founded the damn place.
I have to say, this is the first time I've seen an anti-Austalian opinion. Is this some sort of regional thing?
The only scientific evidence linking criminality with one's biology is MRI evidence that criminals tend to have less well developed connections in the pre-frontal cortex, an area associated with making assessments of outcomes and control of behavior.
" 'Ware the Pale Devils!" Award?
"Throw another pawn on the barbie" Award?
"Ivan Milat, Martin Bryant, Bradley Murdock, Robert Long, Chopper, Wolf Creek." Award?
"Where we Bloody well Char ya" Award?
"My Great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandfather stole a loaf of bread - Natural Born Killers" Award?
(my God I just checked the thread - this was in response to 'legalised' euthanasia. I thought that was assisted suicide! It was legal in the Northern Territory [pop 200,000] for 8 months, 10 years ago and 4 people took advantage of it. How petty can you get!)
I also thought euthanasia was as compassionate as you could get, considering the opposite pole is FUCK YOU! I THINK YOU DESERVE TO SUFFER ENDLESSLY AND NEEDLESSLY, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK, WANT OR WISH, I REFUSE TO SULLY MYSELF BY HELPING!
I think that's... let me see...
Yup. I have now seen a quote denouncing every last detail about me.
Fortunately, being non-christian = atheist = satanist = I'm lying so it don't matter none if it be untrue.
(our education system runs fucking rings around the one in the U.S. as I have just demonsterated, and the fundies will agree - we have scripture classes in our public schools)
<<<I assume that Iaca is from the USA. Doesn't the USA have one of the highest homicide rates in the developed world?>>>
That's right. Our murder rate is 8.4 for every 100,000 people. That's more than 1/3 higher that the developed nation that is second on the list, Canada, which has a murder rate of 5.45 every 100K people.
As bad as the murder rate is, our suicide rates are even worse: roughly 12 for ever 100,000 people.
Transportation of convicts to Australia ceased about 1860. By that time the numbers of free settlers reaching these shores had exceeded the number of convicts transported. A large number of free settler arrived in the gold rushes of 1851 and later. Most of the convicts transported were petty criminals, in several cases the crimes amounted to shoplifting, in others the crime was being an Irish or Scots nationalist. The truly dangerous criminals -murderers, rapists and arsonists were executed in Britain before reaching these shores. Get your facts right before spouting stuff you actually don't know much about.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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