ironic, so the scientific community thinks the earth started in hell, and then sometime in the future the earth will be swallowed up by the sun and so everything will essentially return to the same fiery hell that it emerged from. So we have two distinct stories: God says he is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, yet the scientific community's "divine" plan is hell in the beginning and hell in the end...hell is the alpha and the omega.... Many of them, I fear, will get their wish.
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...? Where did you get that insane load of BS?!! The hypothesis is that, one day, billions of years in the future, our Sun will go supernova and destroy the solar system. We already know that this is the usual lifecycle of a star. Quite often, a new star, and possibly a new solar system, will form from the debris. Humanity is likely to be long extinct by that point anyway though, so hell and heaven are irrelevant because those concepts will have been lost, along with the human race, long before anyone has to worry about the sun exploding.
and then sometime in the future the earth will be swallowed up by the sun and so everything will essentially return to the same fiery hell that it emerged from.
So am I getting this right, is supersport saying that the Sun = hell?
Stupidshit confuses science and religion once again. Science says nothing about hell or anything divine. Please don't confuse cosmology with religion, it makes you look dumb...oh, wait, nevermind.
Except that the solar system is not the only thing, the most important thing, or even a slightly important thing in the universe. Christians fail to realize precisely how utterly insignificantly small everything we know is.
Supersport's "theory":
Science says the world starts and ends in "hell." (I know, I know it doesn't, but that's his take).
God says he's the beginning and the end.
Uh, guys - I think Supersport just said his god = hell.
Now that I can believe!
"ironic, so the scientific community thinks the earth started in hell, and then sometime in the future the earth will be swallowed up by the sun and so everything will essentially return to the same fiery hell that it emerged from."
What the... oh, CARM. Jesus, Supersport too. No wonder.
"So we have two distinct stories: God says he is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, yet the scientific community's "divine" plan is hell in the beginning and hell in the end...hell is the alpha and the omega.... Many of them, I fear, will get their wish."
You still aren't making any sense Sport. Try it again.
Where did you pull this bullshit out from?
The scientific community doesn't even acknowledge a place called hell, let alone think the Earth started there.
It's beginning to sound like he's speaking in tongues.
@Seigi no Mikata: I hope this violates no rules, I couldn't get through to you by private message. Regarding your citation question yesterday (Paul's unfamiliarity with a historical Jesus):
The Jesus Mysteries: Was The "Original Jesus" a Pagan God?; Timothy Freke & Peter Gandy; Harmony Books, New York, New York; 1999
Page 151: It is a completely remarkable fact, however, that Paul says nothing at all about the historical Jesus! He is concerned only with the crucified and resurrected Christ, whose importance is entirely mystical. ... In fact Paul does not link Jesus with any historical time and place, including the recent past. Paul's Christ, like the Pagan's Osiris-Dionysus, is a timeless mythical figure. [More detail follows]
I highly recommend the book. If Amazon doesn't have it, Prometheus Books is almost certain to.
Yes, and in Norse mythology, at the final battle of Ragnarok, the giant Surtr will send forth a great fire that consumes everything, just like the Sun.
So?
Earth started as a node in the sun's accretion disk.
stuporspurt, were you sired by a rest stop toilet seat, by any chance?
Actually, science says that Hell doesn't exist at all.
And I'm not even going to be here for the heat death of the universe or whatever you're fucking babbling on about.
"in the future the earth will be swallowed up by the sun"
Oh, right, that.
Well, unfortunately, it's completely true. Stars have well-known cycles and ours is going to destroy the Earth.
...
In like a few billion years.
Quite unlike the Bible, however, science is not about 'stories'. It's about reality.
I have taken the liberty of writing a haiku to honour the (in)famous supersport. Silence, please.
This is not science
I think that about sums it up.
In which supersport, in his legendary way, demonstrates that like a great many Christians going well back into the dark ages, he literally cannot conceive of a thought pattern that isn't somehow based on Christianity.
Hey fundies! You might be interested in getting a laugh at fstdt's expense for a change. You want to know what's as hilarious as these main comments pages on fstdt? Take a look at the fstdt forums.
There you'll find many snobby, idiotic twerps. Many of them stuck so far up their own arses that they don't bother venturing out on to the main comment pages. Kind of "inverted fundamentalists".
If they really want to join the big boys, why don't they go to PZ Myers comments over at Pharyngula.
Oooh! Intellectual fight!
Many of them, I fear, will get their wish.
Yes, if I live to be 600 billion fucking years old.
ironic? but my irony meter didnt pass from 1!
so the scientific community thinks the earth started in hell,
They don't.
and then sometime in the future the earth will be swallowed up by the sun
Don't worry, that event won't happen for another 5 billion years or so.
and so everything will essentially return to the same fiery hell that it emerged from
The sun != hell. Also, the earth was not made from the sun, but from the accretion disc that surrounded the sun in the early solar system.
God says he is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end,
According to your really outdated stories.
yet the scientific community's "divine" plan is hell in the beginning and hell in the end...hell is the alpha and the omega
No. Scientists don't believe that earth came from hell. There is no scientific evidence for the existence of hell. Scientists don't say that hell is the beginning and the end of our little planet. You made that shit up yourself.
Illuminatalie - lol, nope, you're not alone. Once I realised it wasn't, I realised I needed to write one to get it out of my system x3
Where to begin...
"God says he is the Alpha and the Omega"
Yeah... about that last bit. The legal department of a certain chronometer company (suppliers of standard issue timepieces to NASA astronauts; also official timekeepers of our 2012 Olympics & Paralympics) would like a word with him.
He hasn't exactly copyrighted the word - certainly in terms of marketing - has he...?! [/smartarse]
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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