[regarding beliefs about euthanasia]
I don't believe that our bodies are machines that we have the right to turn on or off whenever we choose. If you euthanize an ailing person, you deprive them of the opportunity to use their suffering as reparation for their sins in union with the suffering of Christ.
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O, Prince of Fools! If you actually read your Bible instead of listening to a really stupid preacher, you'd notice that in ALL accounts of the crucifixion story, GOD himself puts Jesus out of his misery! If that isn't divine euthanasia, I don't know what you'd call it.
We know you worship suffering and pain, from teh childbirth pains doled out in the GoE, to your saviour being nailed to a tree by order of papa, but I can't stand to let an injured animal on the side of the road suffer, much less a human or someone I knew. I know you think heaven is the place without pain, but that doesn't mean we have to intensify the pain we have here when we can end suffering. And I don't know of anyone who is advocating a "sweep" of hospitals and removal of bodies, this is obviously a case-by-case and the patient certainly should have a say in it if that is possible.
Always black-and-white with you people.
If you euthanize an ailing person, you deprive them of the opportunity to use their suffering as reparation for their sins in union with the suffering of Christ.
You said it, duddybottom! Our Daddy in the Sky wants those bastards to suffer here on Earth so he can feel better about making his _s_on live through the same thing! Hey, if it wins more converts, it's all to the Glory of God, eh?
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My grandmother just passed away two days ago, after suffering on a hospital bed for ten days, with her mouth sealed shut, on constant dialysis, and tubes running in and out. There is also a breathing tube stuffed all the way down her esophagus.
Tell me again how this is better than outright death.
However, when you medicate a sick person, you deprive god of his right to determine your death. So I take it you'll be the first person to come off medical care, then? After all, bodies aren't machines you can kickstart or keep going when they should have broken down, right?
And what about keeping people in a vegetative state, alive, only by the grace of the machines they're hooked up to? Is that the godly way? If it's not in our right to remove people from pain and misery, why is it our right to prolong it?
I also believe that we have no right to determine which patients are beyond help or not, because at the pace medical science moves, there could be a cure a month after you kill them.
Now, if the patient is lucid enough to ask, coherently, someone to kill him(her), that's a different story.
Also, unless science has made a leap I don't know about, I don't think we can reanimate the dead whenever we choose... ("the right to turn on or off whenever we choose.")
Spoken like a person who has never suffered from anything worse than a hangnail. I watched the agonizing death of my father from multiple cancers; we had his breathing tube disconnected to spare him further pain and suffering, as per his wishes. That's what love entails, not wishing more suffering on someone so they can atone for the death of a man who probably never existed. Sadist.
Fuck off and die. Slowly, painfully, and alone.
Then we'll see how wuickly you change your tune, arsehole.
When it's your time will you be praising Jebus, or begging the scientists for the morphine drip?
I know which one I'm wishing for; I had a stomach cancer operation last May. Jesus wasn't there. Doctors were.
Your type likes to poke fun at foxhole atheists, but consider a Christian Scientist with an attack of appendicitis. Who ya gonna call?
Euthanasia should of course be like organ donations; something that you inform people about beforehand, that you want or don't want.
Jesus could have used his powers to destroy all those Romans.
Isn't suicide supposed to be a sin , dehydratedbottom...?! [/hyper-paradox]
'Ailing', you say? Better not catch a cold then, pal; but I'd warm you up: with a Plasma Torch...! [/"Hostel"] >:D
We don't deprive them of such an opportunity. We allow them a choice, and we support their choice,- well, we don't, but we should -.
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So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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