1.the sun grows 1inch every year it the world was billions of years old then the world would be a lot bigger then what it is now.
2.The moon is what gives the earth its gravity pull/wind, tides. They say the moon was really close to the earth when the dinosaurs were on the earth. But if it were 1/3 closer ten it is now we would all have the ability to fly because the wind would be around 500 miles per hour. Now Im sure dinosaurs are strong beasts, but come on.
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Wait a minute, don't fundies also try and say that the sun is SHRINKING, and use that to prove that evolution could never have happened? I'm confused...which is it, the sun is growing or it's shrinking? Can't they get their stories straight? :P
I'm not going to check whether the fact of the sun growing one inch per year is true, or whether it can be extrapolated linearly to the past. Just accept it. Then 2.5 cm per year, is 2.5 m per hundred years, 25 km per million years,
25,000 km per billion years, and about 115,000 km in all the age of the solar system. But the Sun's present diameter is 1.4 million km. So the Sun could have grown 1 inch per year and only increased less than 10% of its origiinal size.
Learn to do elementary back-of-the-envelope calculations, then try again.
The moon is receding at 3.8cm per year.
65 million years ago, when dinosaurs were round, it was 25,000 km closer @ 360,000kms. Gravity works on an inverse square law, making the pull on the tides less than 15% stronger. Climate is predominantly driven by the sun heating the world, particulary at the equator, causing ocean currents, jet streams and the trade winds. The moon's effect on this, is merely to be slowing down the Earth rotation (10% in the last 500 million years).
This actually means the climate was LESS severe 65 million years ago.
Oh well.
<<< the sun grows 1inch every year it the world was billions of years old then the world would be a lot bigger then what it is now. >>>
1) You are assuming that the rate of growth remains constant. This not only is not guaranteed to be true, but (due to the physics involved) is highly unlikely to be true.
2) Even if it were true, that equates to about 72,000 miles over a span of 4.6 billion years. That's about 1/6 of its current radius. So if you assume the rate is correct (and that it's the change in radius), it would still have been 350,000 miles in radius back that far.
<<< 2.The moon is what gives the earth its gravity pull/wind, tides. >>>
Gravity: no, that's the mass of the earth itself.
Wind: That seems unlikely since the direction of wind doesn't change reliably with the phase of the moon. It may have some impact, but not the most impact.
Tides: yes. Your point?
<<< They say the moon was really close to the earth when the dinosaurs were on the earth. >>>
Who are "they"?
<<< But if it were 1/3 closer ten it is now we would all have the ability to fly because the wind would be around 500 miles per hour. >>>
Bullshit. The tides would be approximately (1.5)^3 = 3.375 times as large as they are now, but even if you assume the wind is largely a tidal phenomenon (which I'm fairly certain it isn't), we don't have constant winds of 150 mph right now.
<<< Gravity works on an inverse square law, making the pull on the tides less than 15% stronger. >>>
Nitpick - tidal effects are inversely proportional to the cube of the distance. The reason for this is because you're measuring the difference in effect between two (relatively close, compared to the distance from the moon) points on the opposite sides of the Earth, and 1/d^2 - 1/(d+x)^2 is approximately proportional to 1/d^3, for d >> x.
Ummmm... degree in Astrophysics here.
Main Sequence. It's the pattern of stellar evolution. Stars do not remain constant from birth to death.
Coriolis force. It's there because the earth rotates on its axis. Main force behind winds.
Flying. It's an ability some animals have because they have wings, and in some cases (birds) hollow bone structures that decrease their overall density, and make flight easier for them. Being blown by 500 mile per hour winds is not "flying". Trailer parks do not "fly" when they are hit by hurricanes or tornados.
"Twenty-fucking-three! Seriously, what is wrong with these people, that a 23 year old is this dumb? Why don't fundie's pay attention in high school!?"
cause they don't teach astronomy in home-skoolin'
1) It would take around 56 billion years for the sun to grow to its current size at a rate of 1 inch per year, so, NO.
2) The moon is about 380,000 km away, and recedes at a rate of 3.8 cm per year. At that rate, it would have been 1/3rd it's current distance 6.7 billion years ago, so, NO.
“1.the sun grows 1inch every year”
In diameter? The sun is 845K Miles across. Gonna need a citation for 2*10^-10 percent growth?
"it the world was billions of years old then the world would be a lot bigger then what it is now.”
You mean the sun would be bigger, you fucking moron. Again, gonna need a cite that the size of the sun only grows once it forms and starts burning.
“2.The moon is what gives the earth its gravity pull/wind, tides.”
Tides, yes. Earth’s mass gives the Earth its gravity.
The sun gives Earth its wind.
“They say the moon was really close to the earth when the dinosaurs were on the earth. But if it were 1/3 closer ten it is now we would all have the ability to fly because the wind would be around 500 miles per hour.”
Pulling shit out of your ass or do you read a lot of Hovind and the shit HE pulls out of his ass?
And would we fly or would we burrow?
"Now Im sure dinosaurs are strong beasts, but come on.”
‘Come on,’ a conversational appeal to common sense from someone who doesn’t know the first fucking thing about the topic HE BROUGHT UP>
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