[WWII] is the perspective men had at the time. The idea that they could suffer through that and be bossed around in their own homes was unthinkable. Feminists who complain about how oppressed women were in the 50s never would have signed up for what grown men of the time had faced, and most women knew it, so they shut up and did the laundry.
To see things accurately, we must separate the reality from the myth of the 50s. Yes, there was a fair amount of lip service paid to the idea that men ought to be respected as head of household, but the culture was already moving away from that at a rapid pace. There is a constant, unyielding desire in the human heart to be liberated from reality, and to forget hard lessons. Those who sacrifice are always resented, despite our deference to them — we are not by nature an obedient, grateful lot. The decade was merely an interlude; a time of uneasy peace between husbands and wives and fathers and children. Founded on poverty and war, it was not built to last in a growing, increasingly wealthy society.
But what society is built to last without change? I look at what we have today, and the fact that societies never remain the same is one of the few consolations that remains.
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One need only look at military history, particularly Russia during WW2, to crush your assertion about women not signing up to go through that hell.
Before the men of America all went to war, the idea of letting a woman into a foundry was ridiculous. Sheer neccessity won out and women went into heavy industry for the war effort. Much to the surprise of stupid people the women were actually quite competent at it.
The consensus at the time (and your current baseless assertion) was that women would not be able to handle either the physical aspects or the responsibility of managing a career, finances, and the home. The reality of women becoming the majority of the workforce and sole caretakers of the household during wartime slapped this fallacy across the face. After being saddled with the complete responsibility of keeping the homefront and the economy going and succeeding in the tasks men once believed only they were fit to perform being returned to the legal status of small children under a heavy hand was intolerable, especially for the widows who had to continue working to support themselves and their children.
You do much to distance yourself from the reality of that lesson, a hard lesson that required the most dire of circumstances to be learned. Instead you would have us forget those years like ungrateful bastards and regress to an era where people were too stupid to even consider looking after themselves and too afraid to change without a metaphorical gun to their heads like an impending military invasion.
Actually, dickwad, you are so wrong. Women signed up in the thousands, making and testing munitions, flying planes and generally risking their lives. That a shithead like Price can so belittle their work makes me want to puke every day for the rest of my life.
Just as I suspected, misogynists are either living in the past or wish for a return to earlier times. People like Price here are desperate to cling to a time which is rapidly fading into history, and they know it'll never happen again.
Just because men fought a war 70 years ago doesn't mean they have the right to treat women like shit. Perhaps if women ran the world there wouldn't ever have been a world war.*
*Maybe intense negotiations every 28 days! :)
Feminists who complain about how oppressed women were in the 50s never would have signed up for what grown men of the time had faced, and most women knew it, so they shut up and did the laundry.
How do you know that? Women weren’t (for the most part) allowed to sign up for armed services, and still:
- It was (AFAIK) standard procedure that new planes were flown by female pilots from the factory to their duty airfields, both with the allies and the axis.
- There were female nurses serving directly behind the front lines.
- There were female partisans and intelligence operatives.
- There were female soldiers in the Red Army.
And that is besides the countless women that kept the war-time industries in their countries going while the men were away killing each other.
You cannot forbid women to serve in the military and then on the other hand blame them for not serving in the military!
Idiot.
When the men went off to war during WWII, the women stepped in and took over the jobs in industries and offices. When the men came back (those that survived) women had become accustomed to making decisions on their own, making their own money, etc, and didn't take well to being forced back into the kitchen again. This is the reality of the 50s.
There's a constant, unyielding desire in the human heart to experience more, learn more, be entertained. This is what has caused us to learn about reality, about Earth and the Universe, through hard lessons.
Yeah, those who sacrifice are often resented, by you misogynistic dolts.
Yes, we want this hard, misogynistic, racist, homophobic, rape culture society to "evolve" into a more open, accepting, empathic, human rights-centered society. What? Was that not want you meant?
You can't have a concerted effort to prevent half the population from going on the front lines through both procedure and culture and then blame them for not being part of the action. Never mind that some women STILL overcame all of the hurdles that were placed in front of them and served bravely.
The idea that they could suffer through that and be bossed around in their own homes was unthinkable.
If you want to be respected and obeyed because you were in the military (which I highly doubt) then that'd be one thing (although it'd still be a fallacious argument). But given that you're on Spearhead you probably think just having a cock gives you the right to boss women around. Just because some very brave men went and experienced war doesn't mean you get to tell women what to do.
Here's the thing about WW2.
Women didn't make that happen, push it to full crapfest and demand many HAD TO DIE.
This is coming from a guy that admits to being sexist FYI. There's sexist and then there's ridiculous bullshit.
That's the Spearhead
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